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No where near ready to make a mock or even a complete big board. I have been watching some highlights and as of now from the guys I have seen I have a top 5. I haven't looked at any other boards, just been watching the channel swish on youtube. If the player doesn't have season highlights yet I haven't seen them. If you have any names you think I should check out feel free to drop them.

1.Jalen Green
2.Evan Mobley
3.Keon Johnson
4.Sharife Cooper
5.Cade Cunningham

So you saw highlights of S.Cooper and you would take this midget that cannot shoot over Cade Cunningham?

europeannbafan wrote:So you saw highlights of S.Cooper and you would take this midget that cannot shoot over Cade Cunningham?

I would. He is small, taller than 6 feet though. He plays tough, hence being that small and rebounding. He is for sure going to be a below avg defender but I think Cade will be as well. He definitely needs to improve his shooting but being 82.5% from the line leaves me optimistic he can be above average there. What gets my attention for him is his handles, vision, iq are top notch and he moves very well on the court, benefiting from that handle. He managed to average 20 pts and 8 assists as a freshman with not being a good shooter. Cade on the other hand I wish had a better handle and was more athletic. I think he will be good but won't be good for the reasons people think he will nor will his playing style be the same in the NBA.

i'd be shocked if Cooper comes in at over 6

clyde21 wrote:i'd be shocked if Cooper comes in at over 6

Without shoes maybe not.

Adding my next 5 from the guys I have seen.

6.Jaden Springer
7.Isaiah Jackson
8.Ziaire Williams
9.Jonathan Kuminga
10.Corey Kispert

Updated with another 8 from the guys I have seen. I probably will have to re rank the 18 as I hadn't seem some until the initial ranks were done. There are a lot of very raw prospects whom are missing certain tools but this draft has a ton of talent and upside. Most talented draft that I can remember.

11.Isaiah Todd
12.Caleb Love
13.David Johnson
14.Ariel Hukporti
15.Josh Christopher
16.Franz Wagner
17.Daishen Nix
18.Kai Jones

Caleb Love is returning

clyde21 wrote:Caleb Love is returning

I'm not familiar with next year's draft but I don't blame him. This is a strong draft. He is easily a 1st rounder for me and I imagine he would do well in the workouts but I get it.

Updating my top 15 from the guys I have seen

1.Jalen Green
2.Evan Mobley
3.Keon Johnson
4.Isaiah Todd
5.Sharife Cooper
6.Cade Cunningham
7.Jaden Springer
8.Isaiah Jackson
9.Corey Kispert
10.Jonathan Kuminga
11.David Johnson
12.Kai Jones
13.Daishen Nix
14.Franz Wagner
15.Josh Christopher

Isaiah Stewart? did you mean Todd?

clyde21 wrote:Isaiah Stewart? did you mean Todd?

Isaiah Jackson lmao my bad.

I had Stewart I think 4th last year, still on my mind.

Ok, I have enough guys to fill out a 1st round. Just need to figure out the rankings.

Balsa Kopravica
Ariel Hukporti
Jalen Johnson
Scottie Barnes
Greg Brown
JT Thor
Terrance Shannon Jr
Joel Ayayi
Ziare Williams
Usman Garuba
Alperen Sengun
Brandon Boston Jr
James Bouknight
Jalen Suggs
Josh Giddey
Miles McBride
Scottie Pippen Jr.

Top 25

1.Jalen Green
2.Evan Mobley
3.Keon Johnson
4.Isaiah Todd
5.Sharife Cooper
6.Cade Cunningham
7.Jaden Springer
8.Isaiah Jackson
9.Corey Kispert
10.Jonathan Kuminga
11.Vrenz Bleijenbergh
12.Greg Brown
13.David Johnson
14.Kai Jones
15.Daishen Nix
16.Terrence Shannon Jr
17.Josh Christopher
18.Jalen Johnson
19.DJ Carton
20.Scottie Pippen Jr.
21.Jalen Suggs
22.Ziare Williams
23.Usman Garuba
24.Matthew Mayer
25.Miles Mcbride

Definitely an interesting big board. I like how you have Springer so high

Alonzo_Morning wrote:Definitely an interesting big board. I like how you have Springer so high

Thanks, I try to ignore the outside noise and come up with my own rankings. I will probably do an update closer to the draft.

EMG518 wrote:Top 25

1.Jalen Green
2.Evan Mobley
3.Keon Johnson
4.Isaiah Todd
5.Sharife Cooper
6.Cade Cunningham
7.Jaden Springer
8.Isaiah Jackson
9.Corey Kispert
10.Jonathan Kuminga
11.Vrenz Bleijenbergh
12.Greg Brown
13.David Johnson
14.Kai Jones
15.Daishen Nix
16.Terrence Shannon Jr
17.Josh Christopher
18.Jalen Johnson
19.DJ Carton
20.Scottie Pippen Jr.
21.Jalen Suggs
22.Ziare Williams
23.Usman Garuba
24.Matthew Mayer
25.Miles Mcbride

Very interesting, especially having Springer 14 spots higher than Suggs. I feel like Springer and Suggs are very similar players..I think you could debate who's better, probably Suggs but it's very close. Surprising to see Springer that much higher than Suggs..any reason for that?

Anything specific you've seen from Todd, Jackson and Bleijenbergh that makes you rank them as high as you do?

Hal14 wrote:

EMG518 wrote:Top 25

1.Jalen Green
2.Evan Mobley
3.Keon Johnson
4.Isaiah Todd
5.Sharife Cooper
6.Cade Cunningham
7.Jaden Springer
8.Isaiah Jackson
9.Corey Kispert
10.Jonathan Kuminga
11.Vrenz Bleijenbergh
12.Greg Brown
13.David Johnson
14.Kai Jones
15.Daishen Nix
16.Terrence Shannon Jr
17.Josh Christopher
18.Jalen Johnson
19.DJ Carton
20.Scottie Pippen Jr.
21.Jalen Suggs
22.Ziare Williams
23.Usman Garuba
24.Matthew Mayer
25.Miles Mcbride

Very interesting, especially having Springer 14 spots higher than Suggs. I feel like Springer and Suggs are very similar players..I think you could debate who's better, probably Suggs but it's very close. Surprising to see Springer that much higher than Suggs..any reason for that?

Anything specific you've seen from Todd, Jackson and Bleijenbergh that makes you rank them as high as you do?

I think Suggs will have more of a back up role. Springer to me has the better ability to translate, I think his athleticism will go up a couple of ticks once he develops his body, he is not the same type of athlete but he has some moves that remind me of Rose a bit. I think he will be able to score better at different levels with his mechanics. I don't think Suggs will bring much offensively outside of the occasional basket at the rim and 3s due to his mechanics. I like Springer defensively more as well.

I like upside and I think they all have it. Todd to me can get a shot up over anyone, has a good body to put on weight, athletic, tough, has a handle and real nice stroke which will get better. Real nice 4 in the league. Jackson has potential to be a pick and pop and maybe even corner 3 taker with top notch defense. He can defend multiple positions. Vrenz you are hoping the upside and tools pan out. He is tall, long, handles the ball, potential for a shot anywhere on the court.

Updated Top 25

1.Jalen Green
2.Evan Mobley
3.Keon Johnson
4.Cade Cunningham
5.Sharife Cooper
6.Josh Giddey
7.Jaden Springer
8.Corey Kispert
9.Isaiah Jackson
10.Josh Christopher
11.Isaiah Todd
12.Jonathan Kuminga
13.Vrenz Bleijenbergh
14.DJ Carton
15.Greg Brown
16.Miles Mcbride
17.Kai Jones
18.Daishen Nix
19.Scottie Pippen Jr.
20.Jalen Suggs
21.Alperen Sengun
22.David Johnson
23.Jalen Johnson
24.Terrence Shannon Jr
25.Ziare Williams

Updated Top 25

Yes I know I have Cade Cunningham ranked 6th and DJ Carton ahead of him. I am aware.


1.Jalen Green
2.Evan Mobley
3.Keon Johnson
4.Josh Giddey
5.DJ Carton
6.Cade Cunningham
7.Jaden Springer
8.Isaiah Jackson
9.Corey Kispert
10.Sharife Cooper
11.Kai Jones
12.Miles Mcbride
13.Greg Brown
14.Jonathan Kuminga
15.Daishen Nix
16.Isaiah Todd
17.NahShon Hyland
18.Vrenz Bleijenbergh
19.Roko Prkacin
20.Cam Thomas
21.Josh Christopher
22.Scottie Pippen Jr.
23.Jalen Suggs
24.Terrence Shannon Jr
25.Isaiah Livers