Once again i need help with my formula

[Young_Star11]

Maybe 'dominating' isn't the best word to use, but top-10 in rebounding, near top-10 in scoring, top-10 in FG% (factoring in his attempts). AST+ST-TO is a fairly big positive IMO. 3 assists for a big man is quite uncommon; KG and Brad Miller come to mind, but not many PF/C's do. He averages over a steal a game, his TO are acceptable given his assists. He's not a shot-blocker, so that does let him down, but he deserves third-round value.

Fair point; I just don't think Gordon warrants being drafted in the 60s, nor would his value be there. More the 70s or 80s.

Dorell doesn't hurt you anywhere. A lot of player inside the top-100 do hurt you/don't help you in at least one category. He was solid, but unspectacular in his first full season in an NBA rotation. He can only get better.

[Young_Star11]

Using positions as a ranking tool wouldn't be too bad.

Finding the average stats of PG, PG/SG, SG, SG/SF etc. and use that as the base for their rankings

In exceptional cases, like Diaw a few seasons ago - if he has multi-positional eligibility, combine PG/SG/SF/C (whatever) and work from there.

Use the ranking system specific to Player X's position.

Overall, you would still get a cumulative 'score' for each player, no?

1. paul,chris 232,25
2. james,lebron 228,75
3. stoudemire,amare 225,08
4. bryant,kobe 215,82 etc.

This would also give PG, SG rankings etc.

Not sure how it'd work. I'm a minor, so this thinking may be flawed, but take a look if you have the time.

~J

[KalElen]

i agree with you on gordon being in 70-80 range for next year. b-dave and camby both finished top 10 this season, but i won't take them in the top 30 next seasons. i've always said that this isn't draft sheet, but a ranking of this(or should i say last) season's numbers

boozer's 3 assists, while good for a big man, help relatively little. you take into account position, i don't so we have to agree to disagree on this one

dorell had every opportunity to establish himself for injury depleted miami this season and he failed miserably. there are players who hurt you in some areas in top 100 but they all help you in others and overall, they help more then they hurt. dorel doesn't, he doesn't hurt, but he doesn't help either, not significantly anyway. he might have talent he may have shown flashes of brilliance, but i expected much more out of him considering situation in mia. normally i would argue that when he realizes his potential his stats will insert him into the top 100, but i don't believe he'll realize any potential while he is with the heat as riley doesn

[Young_Star11]

Player (Kal ranking/YS ranking)

D12 17/79 - big discrepancy here. FT% kill in a big way

S-Jax 27/53 - FG% hurts him the most

Boozer 43/23 - doesn't hurt you anywhere. A late second-rounder to team with LBJ.

Crawford 49/65 - FG% hurts him the most, the 3 is overrated

Gordon 59/78 - barely a net positive

T-Mac 61/104 - percentages kill him if the injuries don't

JO 66/123 - small sample size

Arenas 76/119 - small sample size

Gibson 89/111 - 111 is more right than top-100 IMO.

Shaq 121/186 (as a Sun) - FT% is his biggest killer

Dampier 126/128 - fair pick. Didn't know he was getting 7.5 reb, 1.5 blk, only 1.1 to, 64% fg

Hughes 127/144 - I still wouldn't take him at 144, if at all

Dorell 128/113 - I like what he can bring in every cat apart from 3pt

Gooden 136/67 (as a Bull) - as a Bull, he's started blocking shots and averaging 14/10/1.3 blocks

AV 209/162 - probably warrants a bit more love

Curry 221/204 (out of 210 players in a league) - meh

Sessions 344/132 - small sample size. Will be overdrafted next season, but heck, if he gets a chance, he will warrant a high DP.

[Young_Star11]

I decided against the ranking system for each position. Too much work, and the position-eligbility would've been a bit confusing.

I went with a simple formula which I can disclose at a later date, and here are the top-25:

1. CP3 - wins ast/stl at least solid everywhere else

2. Amare - big, big, big in pts/reb/blk/fg/ft

3. Matrix (total; not enough GP in Miami) - 9-cat man, Miami numbers would probably bring him down though

4. Kobe - doesn't dominate pts anymore, but still elite

5. LBJ - ft is not as bad as you'd think; to has a worse effect imo

6. Caron - elite for sure - 20/7/5 and add 3pt/st/fg/ft - just needs to stay healthy - another 2nd rd-type steal for next season

7. Camby - dominates blk/reb, stayed healthy, will it last?

8. KG - numbers tailed off, safe to say this is where he will be drafted from now on

9. Dirk - pts/reb/ft is where his money comes from

10. Gasol (as a Laker) - will it last? 8 reb, 3.5 ast, 1.6 to, 1.6 blk, 19pts on 59/--/79?

11. B-Diddy - huge in pts/reb/ast/st - % palpable

12. Yao - big in pts/reb/blk/fg/ft - you can really only fault to

13. Billups - perhaps overrated, but don't overlook 3/ast/ft, relatively low to

14. AI - the pts/ast/st/ft has been helped by nice fg

15. Manu - always underrated, pretty much a lesser man's Kobe in fantasy

16. Granger - big sleeper - show me the flaws!

17. CB4 - health is the key, doesn't have the 'extra' Yao has, but still a decent option

18. J-Rich (excluding November) - I took out the first month, maybe unfairly on other players, but he was a beast

19. Shard - doesn't hurt you, only the Orlando pockets..

20. Kidd (as a Maverick) - the numbers look better, less shooting, higher accuracy. That's always been his biggest point of concern

21. Nash - 3/ast/fg/ft and maybe pts. low stl, high to, no blk or reb. This is fair IMO

22. Artest - 21/6/4 and big st/3/blk (kinda) contributions. Only thing hurting him is ft and maybe fg

23. Boozer - huge pts/reb/st/fg. nice assists for a big, ft palpable

24. K-Mart - great in pts/3/ft. The Dirk of SGs.

25. Bynum - Okay, we didn't see enough, but 13/10/2 blk, 64% fg, low to is what we want to see from 20y.o. centers. Return!

[KalElen]

for the season, d. howard finished 30th. i might want to work on emphasizing % rating a bit more(which would drop him some due to ft%), but i don't think he should be as low as 79th. maybe based on last season numbers, but he improved this year. he is one of the top contributors in fg%, you must not forget that
as for crowford/gibson's 3s being overrated, i explained that they aren't; their value is increased due to all players being rated. with reducing the number of players involved 3s value drops, but that's not matter of over/under rating, but of your league depth. same player doesn't have the same value in leagues of different sizes so giving user a choice of rating's depth is legit
you ranked sessions and gooden based on selective stats, while i ranked them based on the entire season hence the difference in rank; your rank is closer to where they

[Young_Star11]

I have J-Smoove at #30. He probably deserves to be higher though.

He has been getting SG-eligibility over the past few years, but surely that will change for next season. You should see SF-PF from now on.

His real strength is blocks. Lack of 3s, TO and FT% hurt. Steals and rebounds are good relative to everyone else.

I have only used 210 players for my analysis (the FFDL players - a flaw - Elton Brand hasn't been included). More players would influence the rankings a fair deal, but I need to find a spreadsheet of this before I add them in.

[Young_Star11]

My formula is also quite crazy too, just like any.

Artest is 22 and G Wallace is 45. They are essentially the same in fantasy...

[KalElen]

yeah, i have some crazy staff like that too. people don't realize how important can small difference be until they try to objectively look at the numbers. btw it doesn't necesserily mean that artest is much better then g-wall, it can mean that overall difference between players ranked 22-45 are miniaml