Evaluate - Deal Agreed In Principle: Ridnour for TMac

theanimal23 · Post #1 » by **theanimal23** » Tue Dec 9, 2008 10:56 pm

The deal will go through, if I cannot land the following guys for Ridnour instead: Melo or Kevin Martin

Those of you following this board know I have shopped Ridnour for guys who have a similar or lower ranking than Ridnour on the (faulty) Yahoo Ranking System.

The following guys I have targeted:
Melo: 123
TMac: 127
Chandler: 202
Kevin Martin: 214

Ridnour: 124

I'm in an 18 team league full of friends.
Categories: FG%, FTM, 3PTM, PTS, REB, AST, ST, BLK, TO
My Roster: Rose, Joe Johnson, Bibby, Monta, LBJ, Amare, JO, Oden, Tyrus

I am in 1st place. 6th place is the last spot for the playoffs. I'm 10 games ahead. And have yet to play with Monta all year. I do have a soft spot for Ridnour. Not gonna lie. Guy has a bad FG% (so does TMac), but he gets me 5 assists a game. What else do you want from your tail-end of your bench in an 18 team league?

Did I help my team with this trade?The other guy gets a healthy player and a slight boost in assists. He is fighting to stay 500 to be competitive in fighting for a playoff spot.

The deal will not go through if I can land Melo or Kevin Martin. Thats the stipulation. KMart does not give much outside of Points, FG%, and FTMs. Categories I'm good in. But he is less-injury prone than TMac. And that said, I can later pawn him or Monta for another player. I see them being redundant. The point of trading Ridnour is to get a better asset to trade in the future.

The owner of Chandler just completed a few deals and wants to wait and see how his team looks for a few weeks.

OzSonic · Post #2 » by **OzSonic** » Tue Dec 9, 2008 11:12 pm

Those are Total Rankings. Obviously players who have missed time are not going to rank highly, rank them by their averages and it is a much more acurate way of ranking them.

Why would anyone want Luke Ridnour for any of those players? If you offered Luke to me for McGrady I would laugh!

theanimal23 · Post #3 » by **theanimal23** » Tue Dec 9, 2008 11:23 pm

Very true. Sometimes people are oblivious to that. But I think this guy is getting a little desperate. He's has a just below average start to the year. Our league was 20 people last year, and 18 this year. If you get too far behind in the standings it becomes difficult to overcome. I think he is looking for consistency more than anything. Another guy has a great team that has been injured majority of the year. If he misses it down the stretch it would be due to that.

I'm just trying to take advantage of the situation (ranking and injury) and build up my assets as I'm somehow sitting in 1st.

OzSonic · Post #4 » by **OzSonic** » Tue Dec 9, 2008 11:35 pm

I'd do the trade if I were you but it is horrible for the other guy. I would be voting against it if it were my league.

andonewheel · Post #5 » by **andonewheel** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:36 am

So Ridnour will possibly land you Tyson Chandler, Tracy McGrady, Kevin Martin, or Carmelo Anthony???
*facepalm*

Might as well try to get Lebron for him, I seriously can't believe this.

theanimal23 · Post #6 » by **theanimal23** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:49 am

Why shouldn't I attempt to make the deal? Whats the worst if you send the proposal? He says no? That said if a guy is injury prone and injured, that may be a reason why he is making the deal. Otherwise he isn't.

I know I'm getting lucky. Extremely lucky that this deal could happen. And the rankings are skewed in that it is not the average rankings but considers the total stats which depends on the games played. But if someone is oblivious to it, it's not my fault.

And true, the hardcore fans wouldn't do this deal. But sadly, I don't know of anyone who visits basketball sites or RealGM like us here. Its a league of friends who watch basketball from casually to hardcore. But just because one watches basketball does not mean they are knowledgeable either.

2009NBAChamps · Post #7 » by **2009NBAChamps** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:00 pm

Anyone who knows anything about the NBA would never do any of those proposed deals.

Only way you could get those guys for Ridnour is if Dr. James Andrews announces they need surgery and are done for the year.

Even then I would have a hard time parting with them for a starting pg who puts up average fantasy stats and is the 2nd best pg on his team. It's fine to exploit other owners if their knowledge of the game is lacking, but don't justify the trade being fair.

DNYLkiller · Post #8 » by **DNYLkiller** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:00 am

You would really have to be a rube to accept any of those trades.

andonewheel · Post #9 » by **andonewheel** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:27 pm

theanimal23 wrote:Why shouldn't I attempt to make the deal? Whats the worst if you send the proposal? He says no? That said if a guy is injury prone and injured, that may be a reason why he is making the deal. Otherwise he isn't.

I know I'm getting lucky. Extremely lucky that this deal could happen. And the rankings are skewed in that it is not the average rankings but considers the total stats which depends on the games played. But if someone is oblivious to it, it's not my fault.

And true, the hardcore fans wouldn't do this deal. But sadly, I don't know of anyone who visits basketball sites or RealGM like us here. Its a league of friends who watch basketball from casually to hardcore. But just because one watches basketball does not mean they are knowledgeable either.

It's not that you shouldn't make the deal it's the fact that you're asking about it here like it's a serious debate.

For example, let's say we're all college basketball players here discussing the merits of the dribble drive motion offense vs. the flex offense. You're also a college basketball player, but you are telling us you play against the local second grade elementary school team. You're asking if it's a good idea to drive around the little guys and shoot a layup over their tiny outstretched arms every time. Yeah, the best way to win is to take those youngsters to the hole. But you really need to consider leaving the 2nd graders behind and finding some other collegiate level players to hoop with.

Ramen Monster · Post #10 » by **Ramen Monster** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:57 pm

andonewheel wrote:
theanimal23 wrote:Why shouldn't I attempt to make the deal? Whats the worst if you send the proposal? He says no? That said if a guy is injury prone and injured, that may be a reason why he is making the deal. Otherwise he isn't.

I know I'm getting lucky. Extremely lucky that this deal could happen. And the rankings are skewed in that it is not the average rankings but considers the total stats which depends on the games played. But if someone is oblivious to it, it's not my fault.

And true, the hardcore fans wouldn't do this deal. But sadly, I don't know of anyone who visits basketball sites or RealGM like us here. Its a league of friends who watch basketball from casually to hardcore. But just because one watches basketball does not mean they are knowledgeable either.

It's not that you shouldn't make the deal it's the fact that you're asking about it here like it's a serious debate.

For example, let's say we're all college basketball players here discussing the merits of the dribble drive motion offense vs. the flex offense. You're also a college basketball player, but you are telling us you play against the local second grade elementary school team. You're asking if it's a good idea to drive around the little guys and shoot a layup over their tiny outstretched arms every time. Yeah, the best way to win is to take those youngsters to the hole. But you really need to consider leaving the 2nd graders behind and finding some other collegiate level players to hoop with.

It's like Kramer taking a karate class with children.

jorgo · Post #11 » by **jorgo** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:54 pm

By far my favorite threads to read. When the opening poster posts trades or thoughts that are completely one-sided, and ask the masses if they should do it. It's like they just post to brag about what an awesome trader they are, yet it just shows you that you're playing with incompetent fantasy ballers.

If you can pull any of those deals off, then full credit to you. Looking at your team, it looks like you really don't need the trade though, and the guys above are very accurate about college baller playing against 2nd graders who just got off the short bus.

Post #12 » by **AshyLarrysDiaper** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:38 am

This deal would not go through in my league. And the manager who was to receive Ridnour might not be invited back next year.