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[cdubbz]

Didn't see a sleepy thread on the first page so here it is. List your fave sleepers for this upcoming season and what makes you think their going to have a good year.

1. Anthony Randolph -- Talented player in an open system, lots of room to play. Nelson can't hold him back anymore.

2. Anthony Morrow - Another former Warrior. Now on the Nets and more PT may be available...great 3pt shooter.

[Calderon]

I agree on Anthony Randolph. Some sleepers I picked up late in my keeper league are Splitter, Hill, and Blatche. Hopefully one or two pan out.

[Yuri Vaultin]

With the exceptions of Splitter and Morrow I don't think either of you guys have really listed a legitimate sleeper.

Depending on the depth of your league here are some guys I think will be sleepers.

Darko - I expect him to flourish in the triangle offense, get minutes, assists and blocks.

Lowry - he may end up being the man in Houston as I can see them trading Brooks while his value is sky-high plus he actually passes the ball!

Budinger will see more minutes with Ariza gone.

Livingston - a high risk pick that could easily end up being the starter at PG for the Bobcats.

Linas Kleiza - should be the starting SF and a solid source of rebounds and 3's.

Nic Batum, if he remains healthy is a fantasy stud.

Bill Walker - if he can get mintues (the injury and slow recovery time for Azubuike may help) he fits very well in D'Antoni's systems.

Not sure if you guys would consider Hibbert and Ibaka a sleepers but expect great years from them.

There are some rookies that could surprise a lot of people too.
Seraphin may get some floor time due to his rebounding and defense - could be a solid source of rbs/blks.
Ed Davis will definitely get minutes and will probably be playing beside a center that doesn't rebound...
Larry Sanders should be the first big of the bench and can fill in for either pf/c and can flat out ball. Blocks and rebounds galore. Plus Bogut usually has back issues or an unfortunate injury.
If Vasquez ever gets a contract he will have to compete with Conley and Acie Law for time... So he will get an opportunity for sure
Derick Caracter - because, well, Bynum is not a threat to ever make a run at the ironman record.

[FantasyMVP]

Javale McGee - Showed flashes quite a few times. Had a great offseason and apparently improved dramaticly. Not much competition now that Haywood, Jamison and most of the Wiz bigman are gone. Has TOP 5 Block potential.

Terrence Williams - Triple double threat anytime he steps on the court. Put up huge numbers the last 2 months of last season. All he needs is a starting job which he may get this season.

Kyle Korver - He plays on the Bulls. Bulls starting 5 consists of rose, noah, deng, boozer none of which can hit threes. I have a feeling he'll start since they NEED to throw a shooter in that lineup. He can lead the leagues in three pointers made, if he's in that situation.

Besides them a few of my favorites have already been mentioned. The rest of my sleepers won't be revealed

[BPAddict]

DJ Augustin. Should be the starter and is due for a major breakout. His only competition, Shaun Livingston, has yet to play a full season. Augustin will knock down threes on a nightly basis and will accumulate typical PG stats to go with it.

[rocketsballin]

Am i the only one who thinks Hawes is a perfect sleeper? Philly has no sammy d, brand and hawes are gonna put up some stats imo. and hawes better be pf eligible, he's 245lbs for pete's sake

[bahtoe]

Am i the only one who thinks Hawes is a perfect sleeper? Philly has no sammy d, brand and hawes are gonna put up some stats imo. and hawes better be pf eligible, he's 245lbs for pete's sake

Kings didn't have Dalembert either when he was there. I watched him play for 2 years here in sac, and frankly, I wasn't convinced. But hey, it's only been 3 years. He can still prove me wrong, right?

and for sleepers.. I'm thinking

D.J Augustine (probably gonna start for bobcats)

Javale McGee(probably gonna start for wizards too)

Roy Hibbert (Seems like he's working hard getting in shape, and Troy Murphy is gone, so..)

Robin Lopez (no more Amar'e)

J.J Hickson (Zs gone, more playing time)

Darren Collison (Idk if you call him a sleeper, since he's ranked like 40 something in yahoo, but w/e)

Hmm.. I feel like I'm missing a couple of people, but I can't remember them right now. lol

[CableKC]

I agree on Terrence Williams and JaVale McGee. TWill was lighting it up last season when given the reigns at SG/SF. As for JaVale McGee.....he's finally going to have a legit PG like Wall and Arenas to run with.

I'll add Serge Ibaka.

[JahReid]

Some guys a little later in the draft for deeper leagues:

JJ Reddick - 3pt specialist
Thabeet - block specialist
Jerryd Bayless - could get decent minutes finally
Taj Gibson - will be bulls 6th man

[floppymoose]

Blatche is ranked 58 by yahoo, Anthony Randolph 71.

I think guys need to be ranked lower than that to qualify as sleepers, unless you are seeing these players as top40 guys.

[Kerrsed]

Im high on Hibbert this year. From the reports, he's down to 10% body fat, has been lifting weights/kickboxing/boxing. His energy and endurance will be a lot better this year, and with Murphy now in NJ, Hibbert should turn into a beast.

[rpa]

Some late round guys that I could see cracking the top 50-60:

Jonny Flynn -- PGs typically take a year to adjust to the NBA and last years switch to the triangle obviously didn't help. Put up OK numbers last year 14/4/2, 1 stl/3pter, 3 turnovers in under 30mpg. Plus no Sessions this year.

Mareese Speights -- Before he got injured he was putting up solid numbers. In November he went for 11/6, on 55% shooting (80% from the line), 1 block, and just 1 turnover. Could see lots of minutes in a weak frontcourt.

DJ Augustin -- Horrible year last year but was solid as a rookie. Could be a good source for assists, steals, 3pters, & ft% (basically PG stats). Doesn't have much competition for his spot as well.

Reggie Williams -- Could be what Morrow was last year. Will have solid percentages, score a decent amount of points, get a steal, have low turnovers, and will provide some assists (not a lot but figure around 2). Could very well start at the 3 alongside Monta & Curry.

Serge Ibaka -- Not sold on Aldrich being a heavy minute player right away. Ibaka's rebounds/blocks were ridiculously high on a per-minute basis (1.33 blocks, 5.4 rebounds in 18 minutes on the year) plus he's high FG% and low TO.

Some mid-rounders I could see cracking the top 20-30 if everything goes right:

Devin Harris -- Assuming he doesn't get traded I think he'll have enough help to keep his FG% & turnovers at respectable levels while still giving you good production points, assists, & steals, and great production in FT%.

Raymond Felton -- In an uptempo offense it wouldn't surprise me if he went for 7-8 assists this year along with 15 points, 1.5 steals. To me assists are a VERY valuable commodity because the majority of them come from 15-20 guys in the league.

Brandon Jennings -- Take away his atrocious FG% and what do you have? Good assists (with a very good A:T ratio--especially for a rookie), lots of steals, lots of 3pters. One reason I like Jennings is that as a rookie he had a very clear and very bad problem (finishing with any sort of contact). This tells me that not only can he improve on that a lot but it was almost certainly his biggest offseason focus.

KG -- He won't wow you with 20/5/5 anymore but if he stays healthy the guy is solid in basically every category. He'll give you 13-15 points, good FG%, good FT%, grab 7-10 boards (don't forget Perkins is injured), get you some assists, and get you around 1 blk/stl a game--plus he's low turnover. As his career comes to an end KG is basically the big man version of Shane Battier: average almost everywhere and doesn't hurt you in key categories. Those kind of players help win leagues.

[Breakdown777]

Lots of good mentions in here, but the whole "sleeper" idea is pretty silly now that the popularity/blogging/talk has risen so much, pretty much anyone who pays attention knows who the sleepers are,...sort of negating the purpose of the word or idea.

For novice/casual/non-competitive players:
guys who will play better than there draft position (or are worthy of taking where they are ranked)
stephen curry
blatche
collison
hibbert
marcus thornton

For deep leagues/competitive players:

Kleiza - this is a no brainer as he will get minutes and probably take over the occasional game.
Kirk Hinrich - Be it injury, incident, or trade...I have this odd feeling he will be worthy of fantasy rosters this season (150 player leagues of course)
Jamario Moon - a high effieciency player that should get more playing time with LeBron gone (roto).
Darko Milicic - MN has invested in him, so he'll get plenty of playing time and should be around 2+ blocks with great AST numbers for a big man. I still wouldn't count on an improved REB or Scoring rate, but solid enough (like 12 points and 7 rebounds)
Al Thornton - He can score, and with Josh Howard out for awhile, should have lots of opportunity to do so.

[Curtis Lemansky]

Ramon Sessions
Jeff Teague
Travis Outlaw (if Melo trade doesn't go through)

[F1uxCapacit0r]

here are the list of every sleeper i targeted in my different teams. yes im a fiend and have 4 teams

team one - team chris paul with 4th pick hahaha
varejao - no shaq or big Z. he should get 30+min decent with % rebounding and blocks

Derozan - not a great fantasy player but the potential is there. should be solid for scoring if needed

Barbosa - new situation, but still in a crowded back court
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Team two - team auto draft
J.R. smith - his stock has fallen so much guys like batum and mike miller are ahead. with no carmelo expect big things from this spark plug

G. Hill - dont know anything about him, but SA and injuries go hand in hand. expect similar numbers to last year.

Kleiza - been mentioned but he could be something special for fantasy players who take the gamble. solid source of rebounds points and 3's

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team three - my team gold
T thomas - people dont consider him a sleeper but i think his breakout potential makes him fit the mold. he just got a big contract and should be starting PF. i take the risk on him every year since he's s solid source of Steals and blocks

J. Jack - PG from toronto and his fantasy value depends on which of him or calderon starts. i took the risk though.

Team four - team question mark this team is pure sleepers
arenas - can he stay healthy? whats his roll with wall around? i expect 20/4/2 with 2 3s and 1.5spg

T thomas again.

Mcgee - should start at C. solid for boards and blocks

R. lopez - only defensive center on the team and with no amare him and frye get all the time in the world.

Udrih - after a solid year last year, the team as already referred to him as starting PG. shoots great % gets decent amount of Pts and Ast not bad on steals and 3's.

[mikero]

Here's a few:

PG: Augustin, Calderon
SG: Reggie Williams, Lee
SF: Kleiza, J.R Smith (especially if Melo gets traded)
PF: Beasley,
C: Okafor, McGee, Okur

[dawn_wan]

With the exceptions of Splitter and Morrow I don't think either of you guys have really listed a legitimate sleeper.

Depending on the depth of your league here are some guys I think will be sleepers.

Darko - I expect him to flourish in the triangle offense, get minutes, assists and blocks.

i lol'd. dang, it's the year 2010 and darko's still reeling them in what are your thoughts on AB?

sleepers for 10-11?

One player IMO is LB the Brazillian Blur - the man is at standing at the end of yet another crossroad that comes in a lifetime, a clean slate. Last season had it's fair share of problems and injuries. My gauge based on the Worlds is that he's healed up, although not 100%, and is in shape for training camp. If there's any chance JC departs, he will give JJ a run for his $$ when it comes time for JT to chose a starter.

[PerkinsFor3]

Teague, McRoberts, CJ Miles, Jawad Williams

[DNYLkiller]

James Anderson is supposda get some run in SA.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-spurs-anderson

[Hummus]

A few that weren't yet mentioned (and many of these are, admittedly, deep sleepers for deep and/or keeper leagues)

Chalmers - Don't know where he went it in your drafts, but we could see the "Rondo Effect" - his job is going to be so easy - this is assuming he wins the starting PG gig.

Thabeet - healthy this season, and you know Memphis is going to try and establish him - he was such a high pick it would embarassing to the franchise for them to bury him already. I think he will be a rotation player, and with his talent, could make it worth your while.

Austin Daye - TMac is Mr. Glass and also has a horrible attitude. Tayshaun is not exactly durable himself, and is also being bandied about in trade talks. I think Daye in his second year will see limited minutes until the logjam is cleared in front of him, but keep him in your watch list. If an injury happens in front of him or a trade, pick him up speculatively.

Foye - still young, and he has one thing going for him - he is in shape, unlike Baron Davis who showed up to camp with a visible beer belly. I expect him to form part of a young group going forward next to Eric Gordon and Blake Griffin. He never manages to stick, but wherever he plays he is definitely a good stats guy. I expect him to force his way into the rotation, and with Baron's fitness, he could do it early.

Hayward - His NCAA underdog fairytale quest will continue, as he battles for minutes with established veteran players in Utah. There isn't much depth at his position, and he replaces a niche player in Kyle Korver - has a sweet stroke, and you know he will have the chance to show it. Worth a roster spot if you need 3 pointers and are in a deep league.

McRoberts - He will either be the starting PF or the first one off the bench - for all intents and purposes he will give you similar stats to Hansborough. In a real game of basketball, Tyler is your man. But he also showed a penchant for getting injured - like Tim Tebow he is a prep stud who will get himself killed playing with real men - I expect McRoberts to get lots of spot starts and should play a surprising amount of minutes this season.

Nikola Pekovic/Timofey Mozgov - if you need rebounds, these two guys are Euro imports who are true centers. They work the low post and will get lots of rebounds - probably not many blocks. Centers are hard to come by, however, so add these guys to your watch list - they are the kinds of players who are very steady and consistent - if they start getting minutes, chances are they won't relinquish them.