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Danny Granger and Stephen Curry

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:10 am
by Crackfool
Just wanted to hear your thoughts on where to draft these two players. I would consider drafting either of these two at around pick 6 or so, after the top 3 (Durant, Paul, James) and the two safe veteran picks (Nowitzki, Bryant). However, both players have the potential to vault into the top 3-4, though they both have risks.

Granger is elite in points (25), threes (2.5), and FT% (85% w/ 7 attempts), while contributing a steal and a block, and a moderate number of rebounds (5) and assists (2.5). However, his shooting from the field was spotty last year (43% w/ 18 attempts) and he's missed 35 games over the past two seasons. His shooting did get better after the All-Star break (46% w/ 19 attempts) and his shooting has been better in previous seasons.

Curry had an amazing second half last season, with 22 points, 7.5 assists, 2.5 threes, 2 steals, and while shooting 47% from the field with 18 attempts a game. His FT shooting was amazing (90%), but he only took 3 attempts a game from the line. The problem is that this all came in the second half of the season, and now that he's in his sophomore year, there is always risk of a sophomore slump as defenses are more prepared to stop him. Furthermore, Don Nelson is gone, and Monta Ellis is still around to steal shots.

I've seen both players get drafted as high as #4, and fall to #12. Where would you guys take them? Because in the first round, they both come off as very appealing picks. Dirk and Kobe have very little upside, and may be too well-rounded. Deron Williams is really elite in only one (arguably 2) categories, Dwight Howard forces you to punt FTs, and Dwyane Wade will lose touches (how many is unknown) to two All-Star teammates.

Re: Danny Granger and Stephen Curry

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:14 am
by azuresou1
Granger is better... but gets injured perennially. I personally wouldn't draft him unless he fell to second round.

Also depends on roto or H2H.

Re: Danny Granger and Stephen Curry

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:33 am
by rocketsballin
forget granger. i got his last 2 years and he let me down. curry's young and can only get better, and dont forget golden state doesnt have as much depth as last season, so curry/monta/lee have to score big.

Re: Danny Granger and Stephen Curry

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:51 pm
by F1uxCapacit0r
its also a different coach and different system. i dont think the new coach will play them like 40 min a game.

if you want assists and good % you go curry. if you want scoring and rebounding and some blocks you go granger

other than that both are good sources of 3's and steals.

Re: Danny Granger and Stephen Curry

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:58 pm
by jdubb_00
Take Curry 100%. Granger has already been injured and is out till the start of the year. You WILL be disappointed if you take him 1st round!

Re: Danny Granger and Stephen Curry

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:18 pm
by mikhailjordan
Well this goes back to the question I asked in another thread and got one reply to :lol:... Who would you take at #6?

That's the pick I have in my one big H2H league and I'm expecting Paul, LBJ, Durant to all be gone by then so that leaves:

- Dirk
- Gasol
- Kobe
- Wade
- Granger
- Curry
- Howard

As the possible picks, and I'm really not sure who to go with. I'm leaning towards ruling out Howard (because of the difficulty at building around him) and possibly Kobe because of his knee... But is Steph Curry really going to be more valuable than Dirk / Gasol (one of them will likely be there, my guess is Gasol) or Danny Granger?

Re: Danny Granger and Stephen Curry

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:55 pm
by azuresou1
Roto or H2H?

- Dirk is a fantasy beast all around and he's great if he falls to 6th.
- Pau is better in roto than in H2H - the efficiency IMO doesn't mean as much in H2H since it's easier to punt TOs and %s.
- Kobe, I'm actually not a fan of in fantasy. Too many age/injury question marks.
- Wade is okay at the 6th pick, but IMO he's more of a 9th-ish pick.
- Granger will be elite... for the 55 games he plays.
- I have mixed feelings on Curry - on one hand I think he'll be absolutely nasty, but I also don't think he's worth the 6th pick this year. Great pick in dynasty though.
- Dwight is really easy to build around in H2H, and not a first round pick in roto.

Hope this helps.

Re: Danny Granger and Stephen Curry

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:15 pm
by mikhailjordan
Whoops thought I replied to you before Azure it's a 16 team H2H league, and thanks for the reply.

Still not sure who I'm going to take... Was really high on Curry about 10 minutes ago but while everyone talks about his stellar second half of the season his first half of the season wasn't top 6 worthy...

My thought process right now given that Durant, Paul, Lebron, Dirk, Kobe will likely be the top 5 is:

Wade - Possible pick

Curry - Possible pick, Golden State doesn't have as much depth as they did last year so the shot opportunities will be there, from a production standpoint probably has the most "bust" potential (in terms of living up to draft position) but also seems likely he'll be playing big minutes towards the end of the season / fantasy basketball season...

Gasol - Possible pick. Safe pick, easiest to build around.

Granger - Will likely avoid because of injury concerns

Howard - Might pick but worried about the lack of flexibility drafting Dwight 6th gives me (16 team league so much uncertainty until my next pick)...