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Did R. Brewer's value drop?

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:27 am
by Nowak008
With the addition of Korver to the Jazz, how much impact will that have on Brewer's value?

I think it takes a pretty big hit, but I was offered Brewer for D. Lee. I am only apprehensive because we have 3 rebound categories, even so I still think I have to do it.

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:31 am
by FARMERMAN10
3 rebound cats? o boards, defensive, total?

and I do think he took a big hit, but the strategy im taking is trying to package him in a larger deal, before other managers realize the hit he's taken.


Also, thoughts on picking up Korver?

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:36 am
by Young_Star11
Brewer's true value lies in his steals.

If they dry up, his value falls appreciably.

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:41 am
by FARMERMAN10
Steals, plus his very high FG %

he won't score many points, but he never has an atrocious shooting night.

and when he does go off, its again for very high percentage (shot 9-11 once)

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:53 am
by Nowak008
FARMERMAN10 wrote:3 rebound cats? o boards, defensive, total?

and I do think he took a big hit, but the strategy im taking is trying to package him in a larger deal, before other managers realize the hit he's taken.


Also, thoughts on picking up Korver?


Yup. I don't know what my commish was thinking.

How many mins less do you think he is going to play?

Korver is decent. If you need 3M and FT he is a very solid. His production should be better then on the 6ers. The Jazz offense is very potent.

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:58 am
by FARMERMAN10
wow, thats odd. hopefully there are enough other stat cats that big men don't become entirely over valued.

and If I can move Brewer in a deal for a PG, I think I will pick up Korver, just to see what he does.

Thoughts on what a package of R. Brewer and A. Daniels could get me, if Daniels comes back strong from his injury?

I was thinking about Andre Miller...

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:04 am
by Nowak008
Young_Star11 wrote:Brewer's true value lies in his steals.

If they dry up, his value falls appreciably.


Very true. If I am 6-3 in steals should I not do this deal?

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:39 am
by Stanford
I've said it 100 times. Brewers steals are not going to drop as long as he's getting playing time. You shouldn't count on him for anything but those steals.

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 1:55 pm
by flooredyas
After sitting on him since the trade, the time to hope for value has moved on. Dropped him for Joe Smith.

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 9:35 pm
by sabonis
dropped him for joe smith? wow. i think that is the worst move of the season for you

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 10:49 pm
by FARMERMAN10
yeah, decreased minutes and all, I would take his production in steals over Joe Smiths production overall.

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:02 pm
by flooredyas
As you don't know my league, I MAYBE understand your post, nevertheless, Brewer at this time is unstartable for me, plus a strain on setting a daily lineup. As always, a decent WW pickup will surface over the next 3-4 days, never fails, one who will bury the value Brewer has offered-even BEFORE Korver was acquired. So, more power to you if he still is acceptable for you (Or your league), or you can afford to hang onto him in hopes of regaining his beginning value, he isn't for mine.

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 1:40 am
by FARMERMAN10
I don't think we were questioning that Brewer's value has decreased... although his steals and solid game still make him undroppable (provided that those don't take a big hit in the future)

I think we were questioning your acquisition of Smith. I think most people would take Brewer over Smith fairly easily, and I don't understand your reasoning behind saying he is unstartable, and a "strain". I don't see how Smith eases these apparent issues.

Am I looking to trade Brewer? absolutely, in the right package.

am I looking to drop him for Joe Smith? no way.

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 1:55 am
by flooredyas
FARMERMAN10 wrote:I don't think we were questioning that Brewer's value has decreased... although his steals and solid game still make him undroppable (provided that those don't take a big hit in the future)

I think we were questioning your acquisition of Smith. I think most people would take Brewer over Smith fairly easily, and I don't understand your reasoning behind saying he is unstartable, and a "strain". I don't see how Smith eases these apparent issues.

Am I looking to trade Brewer? absolutely, in the right package.

am I looking to drop him for Joe Smith? no way.


Fair enough.
While I didn't offer that I needed to drop a player tomorrow to activate Daniels from the IR. Every body playing every night can add points toward a weekly win for me. If he scores well enough tonight for me, I may keep him, otherwise a streamer spot will outpreform Brewer. Take a look at what Smith has done over his last 6 games or so-then look at Brewer's.
For me, steals alone mean zip, it's a cumulitive total of all catagories that count. Shoot, ya want steals, add Stuckey, he's getting involved and got 3 last night. How many has Brewer been getting recently?

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 6:33 am
by mrfatwrecker
flooredyas wrote:As you don't know my league, I MAYBE understand your post, nevertheless, Brewer at this time is unstartable for me, plus a strain on setting a daily lineup. As always, a decent WW pickup will surface over the next 3-4 days, never fails, one who will bury the value Brewer has offered-even BEFORE Korver was acquired. So, more power to you if he still is acceptable for you (Or your league), or you can afford to hang onto him in hopes of regaining his beginning value, he isn't for mine.


You're insane.

Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2008 5:25 am
by OzSonic
He's still getting his steals, that is what he is there for. I'll keep him in my team.

Everyone who has dropped him already is a bit premature IMO unless it is a deep league. If steals are what you need I would snatch him off waivers right away.

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 1:15 am
by FARMERMAN10
some idiot just dropped Brad Miller

should I drop Brewer for him?

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:33 am
by edcoche
FARMERMAN10 wrote:some idiot just dropped Brad Miller

should I drop Brewer for him?


what does your team look like??

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:39 pm
by 4Tay
Does it matter? I'd take Brad Miller off waivers for any of my 10-13th men.

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 7:13 pm
by Anthrax
I really do not know what to do with brewer, I've been trying to shop him in a trade along with Deng but nobody seems to want to make a deal. My team could use some help with blocks and boards.

My team (9 cats, 12 team h2h):
PG: Felton
SG: Wade
G: Kobe
SF: Butler
PF: JO
F: Mike Miller
C: Bogut
C: Horford
Util: Deng
Util: R. Bell
BN: Conley
BN: Brewer
BN: Arenas

I get some pretty good contribution across the board with rebounds but my lack of big men is killing my block totals. So the question is, should i sacrifice Brewer's steals by dropping him for a big? Notable FA: Sean Williams, Dampier, Diop, Kurt Thomas, Randy Foye, Darko, Gomes, Nazr.