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Post#1 » by PerkinsFor3 » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:48 am

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4 Kevin Garnett too high
8 Elton Brand too high
9 Shawn Marion too high


10 Baron Davis too high
14 Josh Smith too low
17 Deron Williams too high



18 Chauncey Billups too high
19 Jose Calderon too high
20 Pau Gasol too low
22 Gilbert Arenas too low


25 Caron Butler too low
30 Rashard Lewis much too low
33 Rudy Gay too low
37 Lamar Odom too high
41 Antawn Jamiso too low
47 Mike Dunleavy too high
48 Michael Beasley veel too high (18/10/1 blk/1 stl/.500 FG%) when was the last time a rookie put up those stats - let alone a rookie who's undersized for pf

Could/shouldve made the list:
Devin Harris, Dal, PG; Josh Howard, Dal, GF; Chris Kaman, LAC, C; Andrei Kirilenko, Utah, F; Corey Maggette, GS, GF; Greg Oden, Por, C; Al Thornton, LAC, F; Gerald Wallace, Cha, GF;
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Post#2 » by Young_Star11 » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:15 am

Good points there loot.

4 Kevin Garnett too high
CP3, Amare and Kobe are your top 3. After that, it really depends on personal choice. Funston's always loved KG.

8 Elton Brand too high
Agreed, but it's not that big of a gamble. He was able to return at the end of last season and still play well.

9 Shawn Marion too high
I thought it was about right. Miami is no fantasy goldmine like Phoenix, but Marion will still stat-stuff.

10 Baron Davis too high
Agreed. Clips need a big-time signing to get him motivated, IMO.

14 Josh Smith too low
Disagree. I've finally given the benefit of the doubt to Smith, but he shouldn't go higher than 14th IMO. Second-round pick for sure.

17 Deron Williams too high
Tough call - I'll still my neck out and say that he might be better than Nash this season in fantasy

18 Chauncey Billups too high
Don't hate on Billups. He's probably worth being ranked this high, he just won't be drafted here.

19 Jose Calderon too high
Probably too high, but similar to Billups.

20 Pau Gasol too low
I think 20 is about right for Gasol to be honest. He shouldn't go higher than Bosh or Yao, who will go in the teens.

22 Gilbert Arenas too low
Agreed. Despite the FG% and TO, everything else is nice. Should be a first-rounder.

25 Caron Butler too low
Agreed. Having Arenas back won't hurt him much. Top-10 player stats-wise, injuries are a major concern though.

30 Rashard Lewis much too low
Agreed, but I wouldn't say much too low. 25'ish is about right. He's more valuable in roto than in H2H, remember.

33 Rudy Gay too low
Debatable. If he can become a 25ppg scorer, then yes, fair enough. If not, FG% will drop as he tries to do too much.

37 Lamar Odom too high
Disagree. He was so efficient after Pau came on board, I can envision him finishing up around here. Not a bad pick at the start of the fourth IMO.

41 Antawn Jamison too low
Debatable. He's 32 and just signed a big contract. He could even warrant going lower IMO, but he just won't.

47 Mike Dunleavy too high
Agreed. The addition of Rush complicates things. I will say this though - Dunleavy had a great season in 07-08

48 Michael Beasley veel too high
Agreed. I don't think Beasley can average 10 rebounds a game in any season. He won't do it in Miami. A block and a steal is questionnable, and .500 FG is pushing it. 16/7 on 46% with 1.5 steals/blocks is probably a more realistic target.

Could/shouldve made the list:
Devin Harris, Dal, PG; Josh Howard, Dal, GF; Chris Kaman, LAC, C; Andrei Kirilenko, Utah, F; Corey Maggette, GS, GF; Greg Oden, Por, C; Al Thornton, LAC, F; Gerald Wallace, Cha, GF;

Harris - Agree. FG% and 3PTM are the key. Getting those steals back would help, but he's got a different role than in Dallas.

J Howard - Agree. Can come back from a bad end to his season. Would be nice if those defensive numbers returned somewhat.

Kaman - Agree. IMO, with Brand gone, he's a must for the top-50.

AK - Debatable. His value will linger from the last-40s to the early-60s IMO. He's playing SF and not PF. No coincidence that his best seasons came without Boozer there.

Maggette - Debatable. Similar situation to last season with the Clips. He's always been overrated IMO.

Oden - Hype alone, he would walk into the top-50. IMO, he also has the game to get there, even in his rookie-season. You can expect a double-double with two blocks and great percentages.

Thornton - Disagree. I wouldn't put him this high, yet.

GWallace - Agree. Just needs to stay healthy.
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Post#3 » by The_Hater » Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:50 am

Al Thornton didn't even crack the top 200 last season. His percentages were weak and he doesn't help in blocks, steals or 3's. Even if he increases his scoring rebounding numbers to 20/6 this year (which is a stretch) what else does he give you? Funston took him in either the 7th or 8th round of his expert draft and even that was far too high. Anyone else thinking of taking him this year should look at what he truly brings to the table, which isn't much.

I think that there's a strong chance that he'll be the most overvalued player in roto ball this coming season. Funston has pretty much cemented that in Yahoo leagues by overhyping him. My advice is to let somebody else take him.
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Post#4 » by Stanford » Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:02 am

Thornton averaged .7 blocks, .6 threes and .7 steals in starts last year. He averaged 1.1, 1.0 and 1.5 his final year at Florida St. I don't think its a huge stretch to say he could give you a solid 1.0 in at least of of those cats, if not two or three. That said, I wouldn't draft him in the top 75.
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Post#5 » by The_Hater » Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:01 pm

Stanford wrote:Thornton averaged .7 blocks, .6 threes and .7 steals in starts last year. He averaged 1.1, 1.0 and 1.5 his final year at Florida St. I don't think its a huge stretch to say he could give you a solid 1.0 in at least of of those cats, if not two or three. That said, I wouldn't draft him in the top 75.


Acutally he was 0.5, 0.6, 0.5 in those cats while playing almost 28 mpg. So his minutes might jump 20% at best but his stats might improve 5 or 6 fold? Seriously? Now that would be called a stretch.

Thornton provides empty stats and expecting that to change out of thin air would be foolish. He's a low efficiency scorer. That's pretty much it.
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Post#6 » by Stanford » Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:18 pm

Stanford wrote:Thornton averaged .7 blocks, .6 threes and .7 steals in starts last year. He averaged 1.1, 1.0 and 1.5 his final year at Florida St. I don't think its a huge stretch to say he could give you a solid 1.0 in at least of of those cats, if not two or three. That said, I wouldn't draft him in the top 75.
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Post#7 » by Young_Star11 » Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:51 am

Thornton played out of position for most of last season. From what I managed to see, he's more a 3 than a 4.

You'd have to expect 16 ppg, 6 rpg, 2 apg and two 3pg/spg/bpg.

If he can his FG% up to 45, he's gonna be a pretty decent player to get after pick 100.
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Post#8 » by KalElen » Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:06 am

Young_Star11 wrote:You'd have to expect 16 ppg, 6 rpg, 2 apg and two 3pg/spg/bpg.

If he can his FG% up to 45, he's gonna be a pretty decent player to get after pick 100.


if that happens he is top 100 for sure. think battier with more pts and maybe more tos + less 3s
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Post#9 » by pballa » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:22 pm

question,

anyone know how to view the top players in the roto last year?

how bout in non-roto?

i cant find it on Y!
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Post#10 » by Stanford » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:16 pm

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Post#11 » by fraanciiscoo » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:46 pm

Stanford wrote:
Stanford wrote:Thornton averaged .7 blocks, .6 threes and .7 steals in starts last year. He averaged 1.1, 1.0 and 1.5 his final year at Florida St. I don't think its a huge stretch to say he could give you a solid 1.0 in at least of of those cats, if not two or three. That said, I wouldn't draft him in the top 75.


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Post#12 » by Stanford » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:01 am

I bolded the word starts.

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