fantasy questions

w33dies · Post #1 » by **w33dies** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:50 am

i was just curious what round you usually choose raptors players???

for me its something like
bosh 1st round
calderon 3rd round
hedo 6th round
bargs 7th round

jeffyjaixx · Post #2 » by **jeffyjaixx** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:52 am

Depends on how many players are in the league.

But I'd probably put Hedo and Bargs up a round or so.

Rainman66 · Post #3 » by **Rainman66** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:02 am

Don't usually pick any of them except for Calderon

w33dies · Post #4 » by **w33dies** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:05 am

calderon is clutch for % leagues eh?

Rainman66 · Post #5 » by **Rainman66** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:27 am

w33dies wrote:calderon is clutch for % leagues eh?

exactly, call me stupid if you want but i traded Derrick Rose for him last week.

Lucky26 · Post #6 » by **Lucky26** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:48 am

Rainman66 wrote:
w33dies wrote:calderon is clutch for % leagues eh?

exactly, call me stupid if you want but i traded Derrick Rose for him last week.

Ok, stupid. Not you, just the move you made. Calderon's percentages might be better but Derrick Rose's % aren't so bad that you trade him and his production this year.

Mascot · Post #7 » by **Mascot** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:50 am

Rainman66 wrote:
w33dies wrote:calderon is clutch for % leagues eh?

exactly, call me stupid if you want but i traded Derrick Rose for him last week.

I hope you got something else worthwhile in that package

Lionel Messi · Post #8 » by **Lionel Messi** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:51 am

Nurses are typically my favourite

Rainman66 · Post #9 » by **Rainman66** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:59 am

Lucky26 wrote:
Rainman66 wrote:
w33dies wrote:calderon is clutch for % leagues eh?

exactly, call me stupid if you want but i traded Derrick Rose for him last week.

Ok, stupid. Not you, just the move you made. Calderon's percentages might be better but Derrick Rose's % aren't so bad that you trade him and his production this year.

FG%-Calderon
FT%-Calderon
3PTM-Calderon
PTS-Rose
REB-Rose
AST-Calderon
ST-Calderon
BLK-Rose
TOS-Calderon

I will gladly trade a few extra points and rebs to have Calderon's better production on my team.

Trax416 · Post #10 » by **Trax416** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:36 am

Lucky26 wrote:
Rainman66 wrote:
w33dies wrote:calderon is clutch for % leagues eh?

exactly, call me stupid if you want but i traded Derrick Rose for him last week.

Ok, stupid. Not you, just the move you made. Calderon's percentages might be better but Derrick Rose's % aren't so bad that you trade him and his production this year.

depends on how his leauge breaks it down. Jose will have more assists, less turn overs and better percentages. Making him a better overall fantasy pick.

DNYLkiller · Post #11 » by **DNYLkiller** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:37 am

Although I would take Calderon around 18-30th range, it wouldn't surprise me if D-rose stepped it up and shot 50%, 1+ 3's, more trips to the line and went for a steal and a half. Wouldn't surprise me @ all.

hamncheese · Post #12 » by **hamncheese** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:45 am

DNYLkiller wrote:Although I would take Calderon around 18-30th range, it wouldn't surprise me if D-rose stepped it up and shot 50%, 1+ 3's, more trips to the line and went for a steal and a half. Wouldn't surprise me @ all.

That would surprise me. If Rose makes 1+ 3s per game then his fg% heads south. He's not a good shooter from out there and I don't think it would change in the off season (at least not to the point where he's better than 30% 3pt%). I can see his fg% hitting 50%, but his three's would have to stay at around 1 attempt per game. Nor would I expect his steals to go up significantly. His steals rate is relatively low for a PG, and someone once pointed out to me that rarely does that change looking at player''s career from college to NBA. If a player's per game numbers change significantly, it's usually due to an increase in minutes, not an improvement in ability. And it's unlikely that Rose plays that much more minutes per game than last season, which was 37 mpg.

Post #13 » by **Curtis Lemansky** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:55 am

Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook are getting so grossly overrated. Calderon is so much better on standard 9 cats than Rose,it is not even funny. It is not irrational to assume that Rose will diversify his game and his stats will take a jump but please,he was 120'ish last season in 36.8 mpg.How much of a jump are we talking about? Calderon,on standard 9 cat settings is somewhere between top-20&top-30. The chances of Rose having a top-30 season this season is extremely unlikely.

My prediction for Rose this year is last year's Tony Parker: 22 ppg 7 apg 3 rpg 0.9 spg 0.3 3's 2.6 turnovers 50.6% FG% 78.2% FT%. The statline(and their values) should be similar(add slighlty more 3's to Rose for 0.5 3's per game;1 rebound more(4 rpg);slightly more turnovers(3 turnovers),slightly lower fg%(48%) and slightly better ft%(80%). To sum up: 22/7/4 1 spg 0.5 3's 3 turnovers 48% fg and 80% ft And Tony Parker with those averages had 55'ish value last season. Both players are simply not Calderon's league in terms of fantasy value. Whoever drafts Rose before 50,will likely be not getting his pick's worth.

Breakdown777 · Post #14 » by **Breakdown777** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:03 am

I love both Rose and Calderon. I think Rose will raise his assists this year, and Jose's will drop. Hedo is a point-forward, which means he will handle the ball often. Jarrett Jack is also a better back up PG who will play some SG and handle the ball as well. I still think Calderon is an efficiency machine, but to act like his stats won't take a hit isn't entirely truthful. Rose has oodles more potential, as well as a free pass to basically do whatever he wants on the court. I think Rose will greatly improve and be in the 20's or early 30's in production value, while Calderon will stay around early 20's.

As for Toronto guys:
Bosh - late 1st
Calderon - 2nd
Hedo - not a fan so like late 4th
Bargs - 5th, earlier or later depending on if you need a C
Sleepers - Jack and Bellinelli.