A question I asked Larry Coon; signing after season end

shamelessblazer · Post #1 » by **shamelessblazer** » Wed May 21, 2008 5:47 am

So this might take a little while to phrase:
The blazers drafted Rudy Fernandez last year (which thrilled me) and his value had fallen since many teams felt that he would not come over to the states on a rookie contract. Now that he had such a fantastic year in Europe he is going to have to give up a ton of money to come to the league (with how little a rookie scale deal at pick 24 is). A hypothetical situation suggested when the roster spot was cleared up after Miles medical retirement happened in April (read your guide quite a bit on that one) was that maybe we would try to sign Rudy after his Euroleague season was over and just have him over for a couple of games as almost a bonus to make his shortened contract more appealing to coming over. After we found out his playoffs would end after the NBA season this idea was quickly gone though.

What recently occurred to me is the hypothetical of the blazers signing Rudy Fernandez after our season is over (now) but before the July moritorium. I know he is not technically a free or restricted free agent, but considering there would be no chance of him playing is this clear circumvention of the CBA. It would basically mean he's paid 20% of his contract w/o having to play at all.

So to him he'd get a approximate $200,000 bonus, and Portland to pay 500,000 of his buyout (max right) to have a shortened rookie deal.

is this possible?

Post #2 » by **Three34** » Wed May 21, 2008 5:51 am

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic. ... 19&start=0

Possible, yes. Feasible, no.

shamelessblazer · Post #3 » by **shamelessblazer** » Wed May 21, 2008 6:02 am

still unanswered for after the season but before the July moritorium

Post #4 » by **Three34** » Wed May 21, 2008 6:23 am

I don't know how much clarity you're pushing for on this really silly idea, but I'm trying to give it to you here. Work with me.

From the Blazer's point of view, they can sign Rudy Fernandez as and when they bloody well want. However, some kind of conclusion would have to be finalised with Fernandez's Barcelona contract, and that's nto something you can just overlook.

1) It CAN happen.
2) And it simply won't.

Dunkenstein · Post #5 » by **Dunkenstein** » Wed May 21, 2008 8:44 pm

Since the 07-08 season is over, if the Blazers were to sign Fernandez his first year's salary would go on the 08-09 team salary, not the 07-08 team salary.

FGump · Post #6 » by **FGump** » Wed May 21, 2008 8:53 pm

shamelessblazer wrote:still unanswered for after the season but before the July moritorium

To answer THIS question ....

The opportunity to sign a deal whose first season was 2007-08 has already ended, as of the last day of the 2007-08 season.

Any contract signed after that point applies to a future season, as Dunk noted.

shamelessblazer · Post #7 » by **shamelessblazer** » Thu May 22, 2008 1:29 am

Sham wrote:I don't know how much clarity you're pushing for on this really silly idea, but I'm trying to give it to you here. Work with me.

From the Blazer's point of view, they can sign Rudy Fernandez as and when they bloody well want. However, some kind of conclusion would have to be finalised with Fernandez's Barcelona contract, and that's nto something you can just overlook.

1) It CAN happen.
2) And it simply won't.

basically you don't know and you're trying to word your way around it without ever answering my question. I'm not looking for if you think it's smart for Rudy, Portland, or Barcelona, I'm looking for the NBA RULES. which the following posters answered nicely. And wouldn't Barcelona's season be over before the end of may or does it keep going?

Post #8 » by **Three34** » Thu May 22, 2008 2:16 am

Well, if you don't think that the perceived liklehood of it happening is an obstacle, then OK. I'd disagree, but then again, I don't know anything.

arenas809 · Post #9 » by **arenas809** » Thu May 22, 2008 6:53 pm

I'll just be glad if the kid decides to take the euros instead then all the Blazer fans can join hands and re-enact Waco.

shamelessblazer · Post #10 » by **shamelessblazer** » Fri May 23, 2008 9:08 am

arenas809 wrote:I'll just be glad if the kid decides to take the euros instead then all the Blazer fans can join hands and re-enact Waco.

enjoy watching your wizards cruble as Arenas and Jamison deteriorate (already started with Gilbert), you continue to play no D, get no high draft picks, and all that's left is Caron.

arenas809 · Post #11 » by **arenas809** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:23 pm

I guess I'd give a damn if I was a Wizards or even an Arenas fan, but I guess that's the obvious assumption given my name, even though it has 0 to do with Gilbert lol.

Post #12 » by **Three34** » Fri May 23, 2008 9:04 pm

Hooray! You can join us in enjoying watching the Wizards crumble!

arenas809 · Post #13 » by **arenas809** » Tue May 27, 2008 8:44 pm

shamelessblazer wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

enjoy watching your wizards cruble as Arenas and Jamison deteriorate (already started with Gilbert), you continue to play no D, get no high draft picks, and all that's left is Caron.

And now Rudy is hurt...

http://www.acb.com/redaccion.php?id=49297