Who are the 14 uninsured?

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Who are the 14 uninsured? 

Post#1 » by shrink » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:20 pm

Does anyone know, or care to speculate, on the 14 contracts per season that the NBA's insurance provider excluded from coverage?
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Re: Who are the 14 uninsured? 

Post#2 » by Dunkenstein » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:36 am

Remember, once a player is covered, the carrier can't exclude the player for the remainder of his current contract. If I were speculating, I'd look for players with large contracts and a history of injuries before they signed their current contracts.

My speculative list for this season would include: Amare, Nene, Dwayne Wade, Nic Batum, Jeff Green, Stephen Curry, Eric Gordon, Carlos Boozer, Jameer Nelson, Tony Parker and Emeka Okafor.
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Re: Who are the 14 uninsured? 

Post#3 » by DBoys » Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:27 pm

I'd also suspect that there's typically one or two openings on the list at most times, to avoid the possibility that the list is full and then a really undesirable deal (from ins co pov) is about to get signed.
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Re: Who are the 14 uninsured? 

Post#4 » by Dunkenstein » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:25 pm

DBoys wrote:I'd also suspect that there's typically one or two openings on the list at most times, to avoid the possibility that the list is full and then a really undesirable deal (from ins co pov) is about to get signed.

It's my understanding that the insurance company has the right to insure a previously non-covered player at the beginning of each season, even when the player is on the same contract. I wonder if they have the right to do the same during the middle of the season?
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Re: Who are the 14 uninsured? 

Post#5 » by DBoys » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:10 am

Dunkenstein wrote:
DBoys wrote:I'd also suspect that there's typically one or two openings on the list at most times, to avoid the possibility that the list is full and then a really undesirable deal (from ins co pov) is about to get signed.

It's my understanding that the insurance company has the right to insure a previously non-covered player at the beginning of each season, even when the player is on the same contract. I wonder if they have the right to do the same during the middle of the season?


1 The right to insure one who wasn't insured, means they can always have 14 designated. Then when a worse risk signing happens, they can drop one they had on the list and add the new one.

2 That being the case, you'd think mid-season change must be possible. Otherwise, if a team signed a player mid-season, the ins co would never have the chance to deem it as high risk.
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Re: Who are the 14 uninsured? 

Post#6 » by Dunkenstein » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:09 am

DBoys wrote:
Dunkenstein wrote:
DBoys wrote:I'd also suspect that there's typically one or two openings on the list at most times, to avoid the possibility that the list is full and then a really undesirable deal (from ins co pov) is about to get signed.

It's my understanding that the insurance company has the right to insure a previously non-covered player at the beginning of each season, even when the player is on the same contract. I wonder if they have the right to do the same during the middle of the season?


1 The right to insure one who wasn't insured, means they can always have 14 designated. Then when a worse risk signing happens, they can drop one they had on the list and add the new one.

2 That being the case, you'd think mid-season change must be possible. Otherwise, if a team signed a player mid-season, the ins co would never have the chance to deem it as high risk.

I agree with your final point. But if that's the case, why would there be a need to leave one or two spots on the list open as you suggested in your first quote?
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Re: Who are the 14 uninsured? 

Post#7 » by DBoys » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:55 am

"why would there be a need to leave one or two spots on the list open as you suggested in your first quote?"

There wouldn't be. Notice my point 1 in reply, in which I specifically responded to your added info (info new to me) by mentioning that - seeing what you had said - there was no reason for the ins co to ever have empty slots on their uninsured list.

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Re: Who are the 14 uninsured? 

Post#8 » by shrink » Wed Jan 9, 2013 5:56 pm

Just curious, since we're talking about open spots:

Do contracts they are continueing to not pay on (like Roy's deal with POR that runs through 2015) count against the 14?
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