Hard Capped Teams

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Hard Capped Teams 

Post#1 » by NYG » Wed May 16, 2018 8:19 pm

Which teams are hard capped this summer? Also, is it still the case that those teams cannot do incoming sign and trades?
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Re: Hard Capped Teams 

Post#2 » by giberish » Wed May 16, 2018 8:54 pm

Nobody starts the year hard capped. So some teams may be hard capped until June 30, once July 1 hits everyone's free.

Teams become hard capped by either adding a player via a sign and trade deal (being the team that the signed player moves to), or else using the full MLE (or any MLE contract over the tax MLE). So it's not that being hard capped means you can't do a S&T deal, but doing a S&T deal makes you hard capped.
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Re: Hard Capped Teams 

Post#3 » by NYG » Wed May 16, 2018 9:34 pm

giberish wrote:Nobody starts the year hard capped. So some teams may be hard capped until June 30, once July 1 hits everyone's free.

Teams become hard capped by either adding a player via a sign and trade deal (being the team that the signed player moves to), or else using the full MLE (or any MLE contract over the tax MLE). So it's not that being hard capped means you can't do a S&T deal, but doing a S&T deal makes you hard capped.


So every team could make a sign and trade basically?
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Re: Hard Capped Teams 

Post#4 » by giberish » Wed May 16, 2018 9:56 pm

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giberish wrote:Nobody starts the year hard capped. So some teams may be hard capped until June 30, once July 1 hits everyone's free.

Teams become hard capped by either adding a player via a sign and trade deal (being the team that the signed player moves to), or else using the full MLE (or any MLE contract over the tax MLE). So it's not that being hard capped means you can't do a S&T deal, but doing a S&T deal makes you hard capped.


So every team could make a sign and trade basically?


Some teams may be already over the apron (where the hard cap would kick in) so they'd have to clear a bunch of salary to then add a player in a S&T and end up under the hard cap (where they'd have to remain the rest of the season). Otherwise yes.
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Re: Hard Capped Teams 

Post#5 » by DBoys » Wed May 16, 2018 11:54 pm

Giberish is right. No team is hard capped yet for 2018-19. WIll they eventually be? That goes in the category of "everything's negotiable" so to speak -- ie, teams make choices as they transition from one NBA year into the next, as well as during free agency, and who knows which choices each will make? You're asking for the outcome for 30 teams, at a time when none have yet to make those choices. We'll find out later.
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Re: Hard Capped Teams 

Post#6 » by NYG » Fri May 18, 2018 5:38 pm

DBoys wrote:Giberish is right. No team is hard capped yet for 2018-19. WIll they eventually be? That goes in the category of "everything's negotiable" so to speak -- ie, teams make choices as they transition from one NBA year into the next, as well as during free agency, and who knows which choices each will make? You're asking for the outcome for 30 teams, at a time when none have yet to make those choices. We'll find out later.


I guess the proper answer I was looking for is teams over the apron after a sign and trade are not allowed to make said incoming sign and trade?
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Re: Hard Capped Teams 

Post#7 » by Smitty731 » Fri May 18, 2018 10:36 pm

NYG wrote:
DBoys wrote:Giberish is right. No team is hard capped yet for 2018-19. WIll they eventually be? That goes in the category of "everything's negotiable" so to speak -- ie, teams make choices as they transition from one NBA year into the next, as well as during free agency, and who knows which choices each will make? You're asking for the outcome for 30 teams, at a time when none have yet to make those choices. We'll find out later.


I guess the proper answer I was looking for is teams over the apron after a sign and trade are not allowed to make said incoming sign and trade?


They would not be able to exceed the apron to make the sign and trade. All calculations are done post-deal. So, the deal would be denied by the league office as a violation of the CBA.

Also, to make it very simple, once a team is hard capped, they can't exceed this by even $1.00. This came up with the Clippers a couple of years ago when they couldn't afford a 10 Day Contract due to being hard capped. They eventually worked a trade to dump some salary, but it was a problem they had to work around.

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