Sign and Trade with Trade Exception

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Sign and Trade with Trade Exception 

Post#1 » by Jordan Syndrome » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:59 pm

Can a team use a Trade Exception to take on a Player with a Sign and Trade.

For example, the Golden State Warriors want to Sign and Trade for A Player. Can they use their 17.2 Million TPE to facilitate the Sign and Trade?
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Re: Sign and Trade with Trade Exception 

Post#2 » by DBoys » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:06 am

Yes.

But would they?

Obviously, it takes more than a TE to do such a deal -- the Warriors would have to attach enough outgoing "value" that the other team wants to send the player to them -- so there's the question of whether they want to offer enough necessary assets. And GS has to be willing to add more salary to their cap/tax payroll, which could be the biggest obstacle given the size of their other contracts (if they only add their draft picks and minimum salary players, and waive all the non-guaranteed contracts, they are already looking at a tax bill of almost $60M for the upcoming season, at a time when it looks like they'll get no gate revenues).
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Re: Sign and Trade with Trade Exception 

Post#3 » by giberish » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:40 pm

The bigger issue for GS is the hard cap. Taking in the signed player in a S&T deal hard caps a team for the rest of the league year at the apron.

As noted, GS will have a big payroll next season and will really have no chance to be under the apron (especially if they're taking in extra money with the Iggy TPE).

Though teams with a TPE and room to work under the apron can take in the signed player in a S&T deal into their TPE.
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Re: Sign and Trade with Trade Exception 

Post#4 » by DBoys » Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:17 am

giberish wrote:The bigger issue for GS is the hard cap. Taking in the signed player in a S&T deal hard caps a team for the rest of the league year at the apron.

As noted, GS will have a big payroll next season and will really have no chance to be under the apron (especially if they're taking in extra money with the Iggy TPE).

Though teams with a TPE and room to work under the apron can take in the signed player in a S&T deal into their TPE.


Good point. Already having salaries that exceed the apron, GS couldn't do a trade for an incoming S-N-T player in the first place (UNLESS at the end of the trade, they are under the apron, and that's quite unlikely to be the case when they are using a TE which adds salary rather than reduces it).

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