owners fault not players

[SO_MONEY]

I welcome you finding any article written since the american needle case that believes the NBA has a legitimate claim to being considered a single entity when it comes to labor law.

They can't in most instances as currently constructed...this doesn't mean they cannot restructure as I outlined and in no way needs to be close to as ridged as you propose.

[killbuckner]

I'll just put it this way. If I were a lawyer I'd strongly prefer to be on the players side suing for triple damages than on the NBA's side trying to claim the single entity status.

I welcome any article written since the american needle case that believes the NBA Could have a legitimate claime to being considered a single entity when it comes to labor law by tweaking the structure of the league.

Single entity status is the holy grail for sports ownership because it means that you could enforce any rules you want (including taking away free agency) and the players would have virtually no recourse. If any of the sports believed they could use small tweaks to gain this status it would have already occurred.

[DBoys]

I'll just put it this way. If I were a lawyer I'd strongly prefer to be on the players side suing for triple damages than on the NBA's side trying to claim the single entity status.

I welcome any article written since the american needle case that believes the NBA Could have a legitimate claime to being considered a single entity when it comes to labor law by tweaking the structure of the league.

Single entity status is the holy grail for sports ownership because it means that you could enforce any rules you want (including taking away free agency) and the players would have virtually no recourse. If any of the sports believed they could use small tweaks to gain this status it would have already occurred.

Putting an article in front of you would be a meaningless exercise - no matter who said it or what they said, you'd be saying the same things afterwards as you did before. So "find me an article" is a silly and pointless request.

The SCOTUS explicitly did not speak to whether the NFL was a single entity or not, in the AN decision. They said it was an irrelevant distinction so they weren't wasting time deciding. And they said that teams in a sports league have the right (even the necessity) to act in concert in certain areas without violating anti-trust restrictions. Few who opined on AN noted those distinctions, much less commented on their import, but to say that "single entity" has been outlawed couldn't be further from the facts. There is a line of permissibility, and all we can say is that we don't know for certain where it falls until it's tested.

That line may not be where you think (or wish) it is.

[killbuckner]

Putting an article in front of you would be a meaningless exercise - no matter who said it or what they said, you'd be saying the same things afterwards as you did before.

I'm geniunely interested to read an article of someone who thinks that the NBA could claim to be a single entity when the NFL got that argument shot down the last time the players decertified. I keep asking because I've looked HARD and I haven't found anyone who believes either than the NBA could be considered a single entity when it comes to labor law or that NBA contracts would be null and void if the players were to decertify. So PLEASE find me ANY article since I haven't been able to find one of my own.

[parson]

Dboys- if that percentage of revenues works for the NFL and NHL both, why does that percentage not work for NBA teams if not due to bad management? Its a convenient scapegoat because its true. There are owners that WANT to give these players more money despite all the hindrances currently in place.

My immediate reaction was to say we'd have to understand the differences in overhead, but (and I'm no expert) it seems to me that the NBA's overhead would be much lower than, say, football (equipment, # of coaches, arenas rather than stadiums, ...). So, maybe you're right and the difference is mismanagement.

It still seems to me that the NBA just needs more revenue sharing- the large markets should be subsidizing the smaller markets to even things out.

But if mismanagement is the cause of the NBA's problems, more income will simply result in more mismanagement.

[brownsmith89]

maintaining a basketball court should be cheaper than a football field.

no artificial grass, less paint, less wear and tear.

maintaining a court should be cheaper than a baseball field.

no dirt mix, no grass, no fencing.

why did they agree to use 43% of the revenue to cover the costs in the year 2005? if they knew they had a good chance of "losing money" for the next 6 years?

i want to see the details, how much money does the popcorn man make, $35 per hour?