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Celtic Salary Cap Question?

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:32 pm
by filmexec
After next year, what will the Celtics have to spent on Free Agents? I realize that this is conditional on
re-signings, extended options and the CBA, but if things stay as they are with the expiring contracts, can the Celtics realistically make a run at Dwight Howard? Of is he out of our realistic ability to add unless he takes allot less to play for the C's? I believe that after we get under the cap at best we will have about 7-8 million to offer any Free Agent? Way less then he will demand? We will have more money to offer in 2013, but next year we will be limited as to whom we can add?

Re: Celtic Salary Cap Question?

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:39 pm
by DBoys
That can't be answered. You have to have a cap number - and know what cap exceptions (if any) are allowed - before you can calculate spending options.

Re: Celtic Salary Cap Question?

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:46 pm
by filmexec
DBoys,

But Dwight Howard will demand a Max. contract. Even with a "Soft Cap" will the C's have the money to sign him? Unless Danny can talk him into taking half of what he's worth. Just trying to get a realistic picture of what is possible in 2103?

Re: Celtic Salary Cap Question?

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:37 pm
by DBoys
If you don't want to accept my answer, here is the formula. You can figure it out yourself.

X = the amount of cap room the Celtics will have in free agency. It is calculated by subtracting the contracts they have from the cap. We don't know the cap until we have a CBA, so we don't know how much X is until we have a CBA.

Y = the amount of a max contract. It is determined by the rules of the CBA. Until we have a CBA, we don't know how much Y is.

If X is bigger than Y, the Celtics can sign Howard to a max deal. Calculate X according to the above, do the same with Y, and compare the two.

Re: Celtic Salary Cap Question?

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:25 am
by filmexec
Thanks I'm sure that your formula is correct. But no matter what the amount of X is we are nearly
over that with the combined contracts of the big four. We can't afford another Max contract unless
Howard takes about half of what he's worth. IMO? How can you see a formula where the C's can add a forth Max contract? No matter the amount of the Cap Room.

Re: Celtic Salary Cap Question?

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:47 pm
by Dunkenstein
filmexec wrote:Thanks I'm sure that your formula is correct. But no matter what the amount of X is we are nearly
over that with the combined contracts of the big four. We can't afford another Max contract unless
Howard takes about half of what he's worth. IMO? How can you see a formula where the C's can add a forth Max contract? No matter the amount of the Cap Room.

Since you purport to be a film executive, let me pitch you a story line.

Our hero, Dwight Howard, desparately wants to join the Boston Celtics, but miserly Commissioner David Stern wants to impose a hard cap of $45M on every team in the league. The Celtics are already committed to over $65 miilion in salaries for next season. So there's no way Howard can join the "big four" in Celticland, even under the rules of the current CBA.

However, at the last minute, Tinkerbell (played by Julia Robers reprising the role she played in Hook) shows Stern the error of his ways, and he finally agrees to change the definition of the Larry Bird Exception to allow the team Larry Bird played for (the aforementioned Celtics) to sign any player they want to a maximum contract. Because after all the Celtics are a special team and shouldn't have to follow the same rules as everybody else.

So in the last reel, Howard signs with the Celtics, they go on to win a national championship, and everybody lives happily after.

Roll credits.

Re: Celtic Salary Cap Question?

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:07 pm
by Nanogeek
Dunkenstein wrote:
filmexec wrote:Thanks I'm sure that your formula is correct. But no matter what the amount of X is we are nearly
over that with the combined contracts of the big four. We can't afford another Max contract unless
Howard takes about half of what he's worth. IMO? How can you see a formula where the C's can add a forth Max contract? No matter the amount of the Cap Room.

Since you purport to be a film executive, let me pitch you a story line.

Our hero, Dwight Howard, desparately wants to join the Boston Celtics, but miserly Commissioner David Stern wants to impose a hard cap of $45M on every team in the league. The Celtics are already committed to over $65 miilion in salaries for next season. So there's no way Howard can join the "big four" in Celticland, even under the rules of the current CBA.

However, at the last minute, Tinkerbell (played by Julia Robers reprising the role she played in Hook) shows Stern the error of his ways, and he finally agrees to change the definition of the Larry Bird Exception to allow the team Larry Bird played for (the aforementioned Celtics) to sign any player they want to a maximum contract. Because after all the Celtics are a special team and shouldn't have to follow the same rules as everybody else.

So in the last reel, Howard signs with the Celtics, they go on to win a national championship, and everybody lives happily after.

Roll credits.


Or Stern gets a $45m cap with a 33% rollback and nonguaranteed contracts. The Celtics keep only the big 4 at a cost of ~$37m. They jettison everyone else. Sign Howard to an $8m per year deal (which will a very nice deal in the new world order) and they sign a collection of Harlem Globetrotters to fill out the remainder of the roster. Break out the cigars.

Re: Celtic Salary Cap Question?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:06 am
by Bluewhale
Celtics are committed to over $28 miilion (Pierce+Rondo+Bradley) + #27 rookie in 2012 summer. If they released right of KG, RAY, Jeff Green. I expected the committed salary is about 33 million (assume minim player is 500k), plus the draft pick they have in 2012 draft.

Re: Celtic Salary Cap Question?

Posted: Fri Nov 4, 2011 4:22 pm
by laura_abc
rolling credits... very funny :lol: