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How does NY keep Jeremy Lin?

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:33 pm
by coolness
He might simmer down, but even if he does, he could be worth more than the MLE.

Can NY do something like a 1 year MLE next season and then have his rights?

Basically...what is the most that NY can do for Jeremy Lin?

Re: How does NY keep Jeremy Lin?

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:44 pm
by DBoys
coolness wrote:He might simmer down, but even if he does, he could be worth more than the MLE.

Can NY do something like a 1 year MLE next season and then have his rights?

Basically...what is the most that NY can do for Jeremy Lin?


As discussed elsewhere, some believe the Knicks will have Early Bird rights, although an exact reading of the CBA would seem to indicate otherwise.

In any event, the Knicks will have the ability to make him a restricted free agent and match any offer ...and as long as they stay below the tax line, they are certain to be able to do so by using their MLE. If there are early Bird rights, they could use those to match instead (regardless of whether they are taxpayers or not).

Re: How does NY keep Jeremy Lin?

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:31 am
by SamBone
I agree that used to be the rule, but can not find things in new CBA, and could someone explaine how Marcus Thorton was able to sign his deal this summer, he got more then MLE

Re: How does NY keep Jeremy Lin?

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:12 am
by answerthink
Marcus Thornton was re-signed by his prior team with cap space. The Gilbert Arenas provision applies only to offer sheets.

Re: How does NY keep Jeremy Lin?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:12 am
by SamBone
so if Lin does not have Early Bird rites with Knicks, is he a UFA if he does not sign the QO?

Re: How does NY keep Jeremy Lin?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:55 am
by answerthink
Lin will become a restricted free agent on July 1 as long as the Knicks make a qualifying offer to him by June 30.

Re: How does NY keep Jeremy Lin?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:34 pm
by SamBone
so what then is the difference for the Knicks with Fields (early bird rites) and Lin (no early bird rites)

Re: How does NY keep Jeremy Lin?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:36 pm
by Dunkenstein
Larry dissects the Knicks' situation with Lin and Lanry in this article on ESPN.com:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/75835 ... jeremy-lin

Re: How does NY keep Jeremy Lin?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:10 pm
by DBoys
SamBone wrote:so what then is the difference for the Knicks with Fields (early bird rites) and Lin (no early bird rites)


With Fields, the Knicks will have a cap exception (Early Bird) specifically applicable to Fields, which will allow them to match any offer he gets. Fields has been on a continuous Bird clock since he signed in 2010 and will have two seasons when we get to the summer. It takes 3 seasons to accrue full Bird rights, and two to get Early Bird rights.

With Lin, they don't have such an exception, and will most likely end up using their MLE to match his offer sheet if they want to keep him. Lin's originally signed in 2010, but because he went through w3aivers (twice), his Bird clock restarted at that point (each time). So he will only have one season that counts toward Bird rights, and not enough for Early Bird or full Bird exception, when we get to the summer.

Re: How does NY keep Jeremy Lin?

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:14 pm
by Curmudgeon
DBoys wrote:
SamBone wrote:so what then is the difference for the Knicks with Fields (early bird rites) and Lin (no early bird rites)


With Fields, the Knicks will have a cap exception (Early Bird) specifically applicable to Fields, which will allow them to match any offer he gets. Fields has been on a continuous Bird clock since he signed in 2010 and will have two seasons when we get to the summer. It takes 3 seasons to accrue full Bird rights, and two to get Early Bird rights.

With Lin, they don't have such an exception, and will most likely end up using their MLE to match his offer sheet if they want to keep him. Lin's originally signed in 2010, but because he went through w3aivers (twice), his Bird clock restarted at that point (each time). So he will only have one season that counts toward Bird rights, and not enough for Early Bird or full Bird exception, when we get to the summer.


Actually the Knicks are fortunate that the Arenas rule lives on in the new CBA.