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Who are the 14 uninsured?
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:20 pm
by shrink
Does anyone know, or care to speculate, on the 14 contracts per season that the NBA's insurance provider excluded from coverage?
Re: Who are the 14 uninsured?
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:36 am
by Dunkenstein
Remember, once a player is covered, the carrier can't exclude the player for the remainder of his current contract. If I were speculating, I'd look for players with large contracts and a history of injuries before they signed their current contracts.
My speculative list for this season would include: Amare, Nene, Dwayne Wade, Nic Batum, Jeff Green, Stephen Curry, Eric Gordon, Carlos Boozer, Jameer Nelson, Tony Parker and Emeka Okafor.
Re: Who are the 14 uninsured?
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:27 pm
by DBoys
I'd also suspect that there's typically one or two openings on the list at most times, to avoid the possibility that the list is full and then a really undesirable deal (from ins co pov) is about to get signed.
Re: Who are the 14 uninsured?
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:25 pm
by Dunkenstein
DBoys wrote:I'd also suspect that there's typically one or two openings on the list at most times, to avoid the possibility that the list is full and then a really undesirable deal (from ins co pov) is about to get signed.
It's my understanding that the insurance company has the right to insure a previously non-covered player at the beginning of each season, even when the player is on the same contract. I wonder if they have the right to do the same during the middle of the season?
Re: Who are the 14 uninsured?
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:10 am
by DBoys
Dunkenstein wrote:DBoys wrote:I'd also suspect that there's typically one or two openings on the list at most times, to avoid the possibility that the list is full and then a really undesirable deal (from ins co pov) is about to get signed.
It's my understanding that the insurance company has the right to insure a previously non-covered player at the beginning of each season, even when the player is on the same contract. I wonder if they have the right to do the same during the middle of the season?
1 The right to insure one who wasn't insured, means they can always have 14 designated. Then when a worse risk signing happens, they can drop one they had on the list and add the new one.
2 That being the case, you'd think mid-season change must be possible. Otherwise, if a team signed a player mid-season, the ins co would never have the chance to deem it as high risk.
Re: Who are the 14 uninsured?
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:09 am
by Dunkenstein
DBoys wrote:Dunkenstein wrote:DBoys wrote:I'd also suspect that there's typically one or two openings on the list at most times, to avoid the possibility that the list is full and then a really undesirable deal (from ins co pov) is about to get signed.
It's my understanding that the insurance company has the right to insure a previously non-covered player at the beginning of each season, even when the player is on the same contract. I wonder if they have the right to do the same during the middle of the season?
1 The right to insure one who wasn't insured, means they can always have 14 designated. Then when a worse risk signing happens, they can drop one they had on the list and add the new one.
2 That being the case, you'd think mid-season change must be possible. Otherwise, if a team signed a player mid-season, the ins co would never have the chance to deem it as high risk.
I agree with your final point. But if that's the case, why would there be a need to leave one or two spots on the list open as you suggested in your first quote?
Re: Who are the 14 uninsured?
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:55 am
by DBoys
"why would there be a need to leave one or two spots on the list open as you suggested in your first quote?"
There wouldn't be. Notice my point 1 in reply, in which I specifically responded to your added info (info new to me) by mentioning that - seeing what you had said - there was no reason for the ins co to ever have empty slots on their uninsured list.
Comprende?
Re: Who are the 14 uninsured?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 5:56 pm
by shrink
Just curious, since we're talking about open spots:
Do contracts they are continueing to not pay on (like Roy's deal with POR that runs through 2015) count against the 14?