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Kevin Durant
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:14 pm
by sportscrazy
Kevin Durant will obviously be a free agent this coming 2016 off-season. However, I could see him signing a one year deal with the Thunder before leaving or signing a long term deal to stay. A few reasons being that if he re-signs long term and Russell Westbrook leaves the following summer, that leaves him in a bad spot. Also staying another year would give Billy Donovan some more NBA experience to see what he can really do. Off the court, if he waits until the 2017 off-season, not only will the MAX salary and salary cap increase, Durant will enter the next tier of MAX contract for years in the NBA.
However, with his possible injury concerns, I could see Durant being skeptical of signing a one year deal. What is the longest contract Durant could sign in the 2016 off-season with the Thunder that includes a player option after the first season? Is that even a possibility under the CBA?
To maximize his decision financially and on the court, I could see him signing a five year MAX contract with the Thunder that has a player option after the first year and was just wondering if that's legal.
Re: Kevin Durant
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:17 pm
by bondom34
2 years. A player option may only be on the final season of a contract.
Re: Kevin Durant
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:19 am
by Smitty731
bondom is correct. You can only have an option year as the final year of a deal. Rookie Scale deals are the exception.
Re: Kevin Durant
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:19 pm
by sportscrazy
bondom34 wrote:2 years. A player option may only be on the final season of a contract.
I'm sure you are more familiar with Kevin Durant and his injury status (in terms of longer term effects from it), do you think even if he does re-sign with OKC, that he will give Billy Donovan a second year as a pro head coach, check to see how Russell Westbrook handles his 2017 free agency and get himself into the 10 year NBA veteran MAX salary with an overall higher salary cap/higher MAX salary and re-signs with the Thunder on a 2 year deal with a player option after the first year or do you see the injury concern being real in his head and him taking the long-term money no matter where he signs?
Re: Kevin Durant
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:57 pm
by bondom34
sportscrazy wrote:bondom34 wrote:2 years. A player option may only be on the final season of a contract.
I'm sure you are more familiar with Kevin Durant and his injury status (in terms of longer term effects from it), do you think even if he does re-sign with OKC, that he will give Billy Donovan a second year as a pro head coach, check to see how Russell Westbrook handles his 2017 free agency and get himself into the 10 year NBA veteran MAX salary with an overall higher salary cap/higher MAX salary and re-signs with the Thunder on a 2 year deal with a player option after the first year or do you see the injury concern being real in his head and him taking the long-term money no matter where he signs?
I think the 1 and 1 is most likely as the injury isn't a concern. He's all on board with Donovan and the team, and he and Westbrook on the same page in general. I could see a chance he takes the money but most likely IMO is the 1 and 1.
Re: Kevin Durant
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:45 pm
by sportscrazy
Smitty731 wrote:bondom is correct. You can only have an option year as the final year of a deal. Rookie Scale deals are the exception.
Instead of starting a new thread, I'll keep it here.. I posted a trade on the trade board where the Wizards send out Ramon Sessions and Martell Webster with picks for Markieff Morris and Langston Galloway. Under this scenario, can the Wizards still have enough cap space to sign Kevin Durant to a full MAX under the projected cap numbers?
Re: Kevin Durant
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:07 pm
by Smitty731
sportscrazy wrote:Smitty731 wrote:bondom is correct. You can only have an option year as the final year of a deal. Rookie Scale deals are the exception.
Instead of starting a new thread, I'll keep it here.. I posted a trade on the trade board where the Wizards send out Ramon Sessions and Martell Webster with picks for Markieff Morris and Langston Galloway. Under this scenario, can the Wizards still have enough cap space to sign Kevin Durant to a full MAX under the projected cap numbers?
Not without making another move.
Re: Kevin Durant
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:01 am
by sportscrazy
Since I'm being annoying with all of these totally hypothetical Kevin Durant requests, why not add another to this thread.
Edit: Did the numbers and it doesn't apply.
However, I still have a question.
If the Knicks were to make the trade I suggested on the trade board where the Knicks involvement is essentially sending out a protected conditional first round pick with Jose Calderon and Derrick Williams for Marvin Williams, Steve Blake and Tony Wroten then:
Arron Afflalo opted out, but the Knicks held his cap hold rights as well as keeping the cap hold rights for Langston Galloway, Cleanthony Early, Lance Thomas and Lou Amundson.
Would having on the books:
Salaries:
Carmelo Anthony
Robin Lopez
Kyle O'Quinn
Kristaps Porzingis
Jerian Grant
Cap Holds:
Langston Galloway
Cleanthony Early
Lance Thomas
Lou Amundson
Arron Afflalo
3 Empty Roster Spot Cap Holds
Does that leave enough cap space to MAX out Kevin Durant at a starting salary of $25.3 Million with a $89 Million salary cap?
If it's easier for some one to just give me the exact numbers of those cap holds, I can do the math myself, but can't seem to find a web site that provides 100% accurate cap hold numbers.
Re: Kevin Durant
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:28 pm
by Smitty731
sportscrazy wrote:Since I'm being annoying with all of these totally hypothetical Kevin Durant requests, why not add another to this thread.
Edit: Did the numbers and it doesn't apply.
However, I still have a question.
If the Knicks were to make the trade I suggested on the trade board where the Knicks involvement is essentially sending out a protected conditional first round pick with Jose Calderon and Derrick Williams for Marvin Williams, Steve Blake and Tony Wroten then:
Arron Afflalo opted out, but the Knicks held his cap hold rights as well as keeping the cap hold rights for Langston Galloway, Cleanthony Early, Lance Thomas and Lou Amundson.
Would having on the books:
Salaries:
Carmelo Anthony
Robin Lopez
Kyle O'Quinn
Kristaps Porzingis
Jerian Grant
Cap Holds:
Langston Galloway
Cleanthony Early
Lance Thomas
Lou Amundson
Arron Afflalo
3 Empty Roster Spot Cap Holds
Does that leave enough cap space to MAX out Kevin Durant at a starting salary of $25.3 Million with a $89 Million salary cap?
If it's easier for some one to just give me the exact numbers of those cap holds, I can do the math myself, but can't seem to find a web site that provides 100% accurate cap hold numbers.
Basketball Insiders is almost always spot on. There is always a little movement, especially for guys who sit around the Average Salary number. But that is the site I double check my stuff against.
Re: Kevin Durant
Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 11:20 pm
by Warriorfan
If Durant signs a 20 mil a year 2 yr 2nd yr PO with a new team say Lakers do max raises starting at 35% of new cap.
So if cap is 100 mil 35 mil with .075 pct raises.