Is this a legal trade?

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Is this a legal trade? 

Post#1 » by WarFan » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:52 am

Shaun Livingston for Avery Bradley

Livingston is owed $7.7M for 2019-20 but only $2M guaranteed, if waived before 6/30.

Bradley is owed $12.9M for 2019-20 but only $2M guaranteed, if waived before 7/3.

As I understand the current CBA if this trade was completed prior to the guarantee dates for each player, only the guaranteed portion counts for trade purposes.

If it's not legal, would the Warriors adding somebody like Damian Jones' $2.3M make it legal? without guaranting Livingston or Bradleys contracts?

Basically, is there any way to trade these two players for each other before the guarantee date with or without adding salary on GS's side?
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Re: Is this a legal trade? 

Post#2 » by DBoys » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:20 am

Not legal.
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Re: Is this a legal trade? 

Post#3 » by WarFan » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:23 am

Why not?

Let's say it was Shaun and Damian Jones for Bradley and the trade was made prior to the first guarantee date.

That trade is legal for the current year (125% of outgoing salaries) and for next year would be legal for Memphis as long as they didn't go into the luxury tax. That doesn't seem like something they would do, but I don't know how to predict it under the rules except that the trade would basically hard cap Memphis for next year by not allowing them to exceed the luxury tax threshold.
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Re: Is this a legal trade? 

Post#4 » by DBoys » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:57 am

GS sends out SL worth 2.0M x 125% ... can take 2.5M ....AB salary incoming is 12.0M ... FAIL
MEM sends out AB worth 2.0M x 125% ... can take 2.5M ....SL salary incoming is 8.3M... FAIL

Neither is close.

IF MATCH WAS LEGAL, hard cap doesn't arise, regardless.
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Re: Is this a legal trade? 

Post#5 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:46 pm

WarFan wrote:Why not?

Let's say it was Shaun and Damian Jones for Bradley and the trade was made prior to the first guarantee date.

That trade is legal for the current year (125% of outgoing salaries) and for next year would be legal for Memphis as long as they didn't go into the luxury tax. That doesn't seem like something they would do, but I don't know how to predict it under the rules except that the trade would basically hard cap Memphis for next year by not allowing them to exceed the luxury tax threshold.


Yup. The players outgoing salary is only what's guaranteed for next year, but the incoming salary is what the other guy is scheduled to fully make. As DBoys pointed out mathematically above this, it fails.
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Re: Is this a legal trade? 

Post#6 » by WarFan » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:18 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:The players outgoing salary is only what's guaranteed for next year, but the incoming salary is what the other guy is scheduled to fully make.

That's the part I was missing. Thanks

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