Moderator complaint - LittleOzzy

[LLcoleJ]

Again, it should be users choice to determine what is or is not interesting - not mods - mods are there to regulate abusive language, trolling etc - not determine what quality discussion is or is not.

That is incorrect.

[YogiStewart]

ratul,
i'd venture to say that Ozzy is one of the best, if not THE best, mod on the Raps board.
he is diligent and is fair.
he also puts up with a lot of crap, including the occasional poster who come out and say that he's horrible instead of politely or politically trying to discuss the difference in views between them and him.

we're not jumping to his defense. Rather, we are politely telling you that your comments are incorrect and you are mistaken regarding how this site works.

finally, its not we mods that have made the Raptors' board boring. its a combination of the Raptors, a quiet summer and some pretty uninspiring topics posted by posters. i've yet to see a locked topic that shouldn't have been locked.

you can take 2 messages from your post on this board: 1. if you don't like how the site is moderated, you are welcome to not visit it again, 2. if you wish to continue to frequent this site and start new topics, kindly put some thought and discussion behind your post. hell, even the Paint Sam Mitchell topic had some thought behind it.

[disoblige]

Is there anything in value in this thread that the other thread didnt have?

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[YogiStewart]

Is there anything in value in this thread that the other thread didnt have?

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the only value is that is dropped out of view pretty quickly.

[Klomp]

I don't know the history here, of whether Ozzy is a good or bad mod. But looking at the thread in question, he made the correct decision.

I'm sorry, but there was interesting discussion, i certainly had not seen the video (not all of us spend our days on this forum) and frankly, 2 pages of discussion plus 2400 views is valid enough.

What exactly in the following posts qualifies as "interesting discussion":

0:43 - 0:48 Is what Ozzy would sound like if someone were to be able to unlock all his locked threads.

Late night RealGm = where threads stay unlocked.

I've enjoyed this thread

Additionally, 5 of the remaining 13 posts in the thread were just YouTube links. Thats not discussing.

The RealGM Moderating Team has a desire to make this a place where quality basketball discussions happen. There are many other forums where a thread like that may be deemed "quality" or interesting," but not at RealGM. We have a higher standard here.

[ratul]

Honestly - the discretion actually is not in the rules - nowhere does it say in the rules that Mods have the discretion to 'lock a thread' - it just says they have the right to edit or delete. Locking should only be used for abusive, and derogatory language - your 'locking' priveleges are being abused, and all the mods are silly backtracking trying to make excuses.

I'm sorry, but there was interesting discussion, i certainly had not seen the video (not all of us spend our days on this forum) and frankly, 2 pages of discussion plus 2400 views is valid enough.

Discussion can be sparked by anything - and should be welcomed - rather than create a depressing pit of fear that discourages discussion - that's what this forum is about, not mods making up random rules and abusing their privelege.

Well that sounds like you have a foundation for your own website.

At this site, Mods have discretion to lock sites and will continue to do so.

This site is a privilege not a right. If you don't like the way it's run, it's your right to post elsewhere. It's our right to lock threads we feel are not good. Yours in this case, was not.

Sorry.

What are you talking about? Being a mod is a privelege, not a right - just because I don't waste my days posting like a madman so as to qualify as a mod on a basketball forum, it doesn't mean this site is less 'mine' than it is 'yours'

If I don't like the way things, I have the right to complain, and complain vigorously - if you don't like it, then no one cares - do you see the flaws in your attempt to wield power, especially given the title of this subforum?

[ratul]

I don't know the history here, of whether Ozzy is a good or bad mod. But looking at the thread in question, he made the correct decision.

I'm sorry, but there was interesting discussion, i certainly had not seen the video (not all of us spend our days on this forum) and frankly, 2 pages of discussion plus 2400 views is valid enough.

What exactly in the following posts qualifies as "interesting discussion":

0:43 - 0:48 Is what Ozzy would sound like if someone were to be able to unlock all his locked threads.

Late night RealGm = where threads stay unlocked.

I've enjoyed this thread

Additionally, 5 of the remaining 13 posts in the thread were just YouTube links. Thats not discussing.

The RealGM Moderating Team has a desire to make this a place where quality basketball discussions happen. There are many other forums where a thread like that may be deemed "quality" or interesting," but not at RealGM. We have a higher standard here.

That is discussion - it's not up to you to decide what is interesting - anything can or should be interesting - the knicks board is currently talking about the JWoww-Sammi fight on Jersey shore - this same thread on the raptor board would be locked.

I understand I have the right to post elsewhere (which is, btw, the most ridiculous and dicky response i have seen), but I also know I have the right to complain, and complain vigorously about moderators who are ruining the site. If you have a problem with that (that is a collective 'you'), then you can complain to the owners of the site.

[Gek]

Different moderating styles. The Raptors board is known as one of the worst boards (outside maybe the GB) to moderate. If people abuse the leeway given to them by moderators on the board then they need to tighten the chain and can't allow those *luxuries* anymore until the board proves it can handle it again.

[LLcoleJ]

What are you talking about? Being a mod is a privelege, not a right - just because I don't waste my days posting like a madman so as to qualify as a mod on a basketball forum, it doesn't mean this site is less 'mine' than it is 'yours'

Being a mod is a selective position the admins choose to help them run their site. No, posting like a mad man is not the qualifications... to get this thankless job. But one I agreed to help out and work for the sites best interests.

Meaning: My responses to you are speaking for the Admins in various Feedback and Suggestion threads, like this one.

If I don't like the way things, I have the right to complain, and complain vigorously - if you don't like it, then no one cares - do you see the flaws in your attempt to wield power, especially given the title of this subforum?

You can complain until your are blue in the face. However, we have the right to reply to your complaint and feel little Ozzy acted appropriately in your thread being locked. it was his discretion and Me, HowardMass and Winterpeg and every mod who posts in this thread all agree that Ozzy's actions are just in this case,.

I have been asked by the site admins to wield my power as I see fit.

So what do you want to come from this? You wrote up a feedback and we replied that Ozzy used discretion and was in the right. What do we go from here?

[YogiStewart]

you're pissed that Ozzy locked your thread. you then call him the worst mod out there.

most Raps mods would tell you he's probably the best mod we have. when we had the poster awards in the summer, i recall Oz getting the majority of votes. so let's agree to disagree.

if you think talking about JWoww is what makes a basketball board good or bad? really??

just like the Raps' board is its own beast, the Knicks' board is its own beast. we get game-day threads that hit 100 pages. most boards don't. the Raps' board is the way it is due to posting habits (good and bad ones). if you like the KNicks' board for its off topic topics and bluer language/posting style, i suggest you visit that board for those topics and the Raps' board for Raps talk.

[ratul]

What are you talking about? Being a mod is a privelege, not a right - just because I don't waste my days posting like a madman so as to qualify as a mod on a basketball forum, it doesn't mean this site is less 'mine' than it is 'yours'

Being a mod is a selective position the admins choose to help them run their site. No, posting like a mad man is not the qualifications... to get this thankless job. But one I agreed to help out and work for the sites best interests.

Meaning: My responses to you are speaking for the Admins in various Feedback and Suggestion threads, like this one.

If I don't like the way things, I have the right to complain, and complain vigorously - if you don't like it, then no one cares - do you see the flaws in your attempt to wield power, especially given the title of this subforum?

You can complain until your are blue in the face. However, we have the right to reply to your complaint and feel little Ozzy acted appropriately in your thread being locked. it was his discretion and Me, HowardMass and Winterpeg and every mod who posts in this thread all agree that Ozzy's actions are just in this case,.

I have been asked by the site admins to wield my power as I see fit.

So what do you want to come from this? You wrote up a feedback and we replied that Ozzy used discretion and was in the right. What do we go from here?

Have the admins explained the flagrant discrepancy between the knicks and raptors board? Or the raptors board compared to every other board - does the raptors board need 100 pages on sonny weems? Because that's basketball related doesn't make it cogent or an interesting thread. You have forced people to talk about drivel ad nauseam because there is nothing else allowed to be talked about.

Ultimately, that is what is ruining the board. If I can speak to an admin on the matter, I would like to as i post here a lot and enjoy the boards - but don't like to see it ruined- certainly when it is one-eyed responses that I get in return.

[DelaneyRudd]

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Here's the difference. No other team has this.

[Blame Rasho]

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=72

Here's the difference. No other team has this.

It isn't the only difference....

[Yuri Vaultin]

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=72

Here's the difference. No other team has this.

It isn't the only difference....

An average poster age of 12, as well as emotionally volatile, over-sensitive, fragile ego laden fans ("gingers"), and banned posters returning again and again and again just to stir the pot and complain are also a big component.

[[]D [] [V] []D]

You should start your own board. That way you can make the rules.

I like how you jump in here and throw that in... whats the point of that? It makes you look bad that its a board for us to talk about some issues and thats your mentality?

I know this is off-topic but I just thought I'd post about that, it kinda goes with what a lot of posters complain that the mods sometimes feel mighty. I personally dont care because this is an internet website so whatever, but I do see how it rubs people the wrong way when things like this happen.

Now I'm sure the mods dont have an easy "job" because they have to babysit a bunch of macho faceless kids on the internet, but a comment like that is just dumb.