These warning/suspensions are getting WAY OUT OF HAND

[Teddy Bruckshut]

What's going on with this message board? It's becoming a circus. First, I get a warning from Flash3 for accusing someone of being a bandwagon/fair weather fan, which is laughable because I've seen him "bait/attack" other members with much more fuel than that. Then I get a warning from Blame Rasho for REPORTING AN UNWORTHY POST? HUH? WHAT? WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? It makes no sense at all.

I have a feeling I am being singled out and picked on due to Flash3 telling me that there's a file on me, and that wouldn't surprise me. But seriously.... this is getting out of hand now. Something needs to be done.

[Teddy Bruckshut]

Not to mention, originally, I was suspended for sticking up for Dwyane Wade on the Bulls board by Ben B. WITHOUT WARNING. Nobody ever warned me. Nobody ever PM'ed me or anything. All I did was make the argument that Miami is a more attractive city than Chicago (opinionated), and there were posters in that thread saying things such as Dwyane Wade can die, suck a dick, rot in hell, etc. which is clear "baiting" if I've ever seen it. Ben B. then went on to quote my post by teasing/flaming my suspension.

That's where my "troubled log" originated.

[dockingsched]

It is imperative that I give you the following information, which Teddy Bruckshut wants concealed from the public. Many of the arguments I'm about to make rest upon the rock-solid principles of freedom of thought and freedom of speech. If it weren't for these freedoms, I wouldn't be allowed to tell you that if Teddy wanted to, he could provide the pretext for police-state measures. He could increase alienation and delinquency among our young people. And he could defuse or undermine incisive critiques of his headlong behavior by turning them into procedural arguments about mechanisms of institutional restraint. We must unmistakably not allow Teddy to do any of these.

What we're involved in with Teddy is not a game. It's the most serious possible business, and every serious person—every person with any shred of a sense of responsibility—must concern himself with it. To the best of my knowledge, you should be sure to let me know your ideas about how to deal with him. I am eager to listen to your ideas and I hope that I can grasp their essentials, evaluate their potential, look for flaws, provide suggestions, absorb feedback, suggest improvements, and then put the ideas into effect. Only then can we keep the faith. At this point, all I can do is repeat a line from my previous letter: "Teddy should get a life and stay out of mine". Finally, any mistakes in this post are strictly my fault. But if you find any factual error or have more updated information on the subject of Teddy Bruckshut, Teddy-inspired versions of mysticism, etc., please tell me so I can write an even stronger post next time.

[CellarDoor]

Not to mention, originally, I was suspended for sticking up for Dwyane Wade on the Bulls board by Ben B. WITHOUT WARNING. Nobody ever warned me. Nobody ever PM'ed me or anything. All I did was make the argument that Miami is a more attractive city than Chicago (opinionated), and there were posters in that thread saying things such as Dwyane Wade can die, suck a dick, rot in hell, etc. which is clear "baiting" if I've ever seen it. Ben B. then went on to quote my post by teasing/flaming my suspension.

That's where my "troubled log" originated.

You're going to have a difficult time as a fan of another team crying foul for being baited on that team's board.

[Schad]

I am angry. Angry that events have transpired that lead me to write this statement. For those of you who like to eat dessert before soup, my conclusion at the end of this letter is going to be that I find it necessary, if I am to meet my reader on something like a common ground of understanding, to point out that if you want to hide something from Teddy Bruckshut, you just have to put it in a book.

Currently, Teddy Bruckshut's rejoinders merely break down our communities. As you will see in the near future, this is only the tip of a gigantic iceberg. If you can go more than a minute without hearing Teddy Bruckshut talk about lexiphanicism, you're either deaf, dumb, or in a serious case of denial. He can get away with lies (e.g., that he commands an army of robots that live in the hollow center of the earth and produce earthquakes whenever they feel like shaking things up a bit on the surface) because the average person cannot imagine anyone lying so brazenly. Not one person in a hundred will actually check out the facts for himself and discover that Teddy Bruckshut is lying. He seems to assume that those who disagree with him should be cast into the outer darkness, should be shunned, should starve. This is an assumption of the worst kind because everything I've said so far is by way of introduction to the key point I want to make in this letter. My key point is that one can usually be pretty sure when he's lying. Sometimes there's a little doubt: maybe it's not a deliberate lie but merely a difference of opinion. But when Teddy Bruckshut claims that I and others who think he's a hateful kook are secretly using etheric attachment cords to drain people's karmic energy, there's no room for ambiguity: he's surely lying.

If we let Teddy Bruckshut strip the world of conversation, friendship, and love, who's going to protect us? The government? Our parents? Superman? Probably none of the above. That's why it's important to teach dour know-it-alls about tolerance. I hardly need to tell you that while he's out creating a mass psychology of fear about an imminent terrorist threat, the general public is shouldering the bill. Sadly, this is a bill of shattered minds, broken hearts and homes, depression and all its attendant miseries, and a despondency about Teddy Bruckshut's attempts to perpetuate myths that glorify deconstructionism.

Far be it for me to create a climate in which it will be assumed that our achievements reflect not individual worth, talent, or skill, but special consideration. The largest problem, however, is that some people believe that one day Teddy Bruckshut's cringers will disabuse Teddy Bruckshut of the notion that he acts in the name of equality and social justice. Such people are doomed to disappointment, especially when one considers that if one could get a Ph.D. in Exclusionism, Teddy Bruckshut would be the first in line to have one. In closing, please remember that my ultimate goal is to look into the future and consider what will happen if we let Teddy Bruckshut make all of us pay for his boondoggles. If I advance, follow me. If I stop, urge me on. If I retreat, kill me.

[WarFan]

[CellarDoor]

Wow, you guys actually did it. That's morbidly entertaining.

[Miklo]

I second the wisdom found in Schadenfreude's post.

But Teddy, you're just gonna have to live and learn. If something you do ticks off the mods on a certain page just don't do it. You make a lot of good posts and bring good insight but if you're going on the Chicago board for example and defending DWade or talking trash about the city, you're the one with the duty to keep it un-confrontational. I've spoken to you before on the GB about posts and you were understanding of what was going on so just keep doing that. Lots of the boards have been crazy with free agency etc so I assure you you're not the only one getting warnings and such. There's really nothing unfair about it - just avoid confrontation and talk basketball.

[Teddy Bruckshut]

I second the wisdom found in Schadenfreude's post.

But Teddy, you're just gonna have to live and learn. If something you do ticks off the mods on a certain page just don't do it. You make a lot of good posts and bring good insight but if you're going on the Chicago board for example and defending DWade or talking trash about the city, you're the one with the duty to keep it un-confrontational. I've spoken to you before on the GB about posts and you were understanding of what was going on so just keep doing that. Lots of the boards have been crazy with free agency etc so I assure you you're not the only one getting warnings and such. There's really nothing unfair about it - just avoid confrontation and talk basketball.

Thanks for having the maturity to actually do your job as a moderator and respond to a topic of concern seriously. That's all I'm asking for. Some reasoning. I see that's a difficult task for others around here. I won't complain anymore because I see it goes nowhere, and nobody around here ever explains much (with the exception of yourself) and we're supposed to just let everything slide whether right or wrong.

I don't have as big a problem with the Bulls board issue (it's dead) as I do with being warned for accusing one of being a bandwagon fan (which I see others doing in every thread with a "new" Heat poster) and being warned for "reporting unworthy posts" - that seems a bit ridiculous.

Not to mention, the moderator who warned me uses his signature to insult members -

[WarFan]

C'mon, that guy insulted himself.

[Gek]

Walrus joke, robUt joke or serious post? Hmm....

[Teddy Bruckshut]

Blame Rasho responded to my PM asking for an explanation with "U MAD?" whereas if I responded to him like that, I'd probably be waived on the spot.

I give up. You guys can lock this thread. I'm not going to discuss an issue that obviously won't go anywhere because once you get the bad guy reputation on this site that's it for you, regardless of the intent. That much is obvious to me. I'm just going to start ignoring anything that I know will turn into a flame war if I respond, whether baited or not.

I was raised to walk away from situations like this, so that's what I'll do.

[Ill]

@ the U Mad pm

[Gremz]

This is no time for laughter Ill, this is cereal business!

[Schad]

This is no time for laughter Ill, this is cereal business!

I had a cereal business once, but it turned out that the public just wasn't ready for Margarine-Os, even though it had 20% of your daily recommended intake of dietary fiber and more than ten times the margarine of the next leading brand.

[fudgie]

I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE

[Gremz]

This is no time for laughter Ill, this is cereal business!

I had a cereal business once, but it turned out that the public just wasn't ready for Margarine-Os, even though it had 20% of your daily recommended intake of dietary fiber and more than ten times the margarine of the next leading brand.

This is a win post.

I hope to one day be able to fabricate notions of cereal dreams and perhaps if daring, some other non-cereal related breakfast items.

[5th pick sucks]

This is no time for laughter Ill, this is cereal business!

I had a cereal business once, but it turned out that the public just wasn't ready for Margarine-Os, even though it had 20% of your daily recommended intake of dietary fiber and more than ten times the margarine of the next leading brand.

This is a win post.

I hope to one day be able to fabricate notions of cereal dreams and perhaps if daring, some other non-cereal related breakfast items.

+1

[BrooklynBulls]

Blame Rasho responded to my PM asking for an explanation with "U MAD?" whereas if I responded to him like that, I'd probably be waived on the spot.

We don't have a policy for "u mad" posts. They're not against the TOS. Yet. But imo, they should be.

I give up. You guys can lock this thread. I'm not going to discuss an issue that obviously won't go anywhere because once you get the bad guy reputation on this site that's it for you, regardless of the intent. That much is obvious to me. I'm just going to start ignoring anything that I know will turn into a flame war if I respond, whether baited or not.

You did not get the bad guy "reputation." You were a bad guy. It was blatantly clear from your time on the Bulls board, and if you'd really like a breakdown of all the posts that were in violation, you can ask and I'll try to deliver.

But here's something you don't get: the guys that bait suck, too. But you have to realize the source of the irritation, which is you. Responding to baiting with insults that escalate the situation IS against the TOS. So is the baiting, but the baiting is both harder to police and control, ESPECIALLY once you escalate. If you, instead of responding to baiting response to a post of yours, instead report the post, that's going to get the baiter on the bad-guy-list. Not you.

I was raised to walk away from situations like this, so that's what I'll do.

Walking away is ALWAYS the best solution to issues like this. Expecting the moderators to come in, and post-mortem dissect who was at fault and for what, is asking too much. We are looking to maintain the health of the board, and since you, or people like yourself, are often the irritant, it is you that is moderated most heavily and most quickly.

Baiting is more of a problem that mods tend to deal with when it's chronic.

If you want to avoid warnings, treat your visits on team boards as if you're a guest in their house. You can still deliver your opinion, even if its dissenting, but it has to be done respectfully. Although the Heat fans are catching a lot of flak ANYWHERE they go, that stuff will continually wear off.

It was similar with Lakers fans after Gasol, and Celtics fans after Garnett. The solution is not to expect the mods to protect you at every turn, but realize the disposition of other boards before you post there, and then comport yourself accordingly.

[Gek]

This is no time for laughter Ill, this is cereal business!

I had a cereal business once, but it turned out that the public just wasn't ready for Margarine-Os, even though it had 20% of your daily recommended intake of dietary fiber and more than ten times the margarine of the next leading brand.

Post of the week right here.