Suggestion: Add a "Brick" button for voting down posts -1

[Kobe>Jordan>God]

How about creating the opposite of the And1 button? RealGM'ers could then vote either up or down on posts.

The -1 votes or "Bricks" could even be used to weed out terrible posters. You could automatically suspend people with too many negatives like spammers & trolls, so RealGM becomes self-policing.

[tsherkin]

I strongly doubt that negative votes will ever factor into suspensions. It is too open to abuse.

[Kobe>Jordan>God]

I strongly doubt that negative votes will ever factor into suspensions. It is too open to abuse.

Suspensions could be subject to approval by a mod.

Or you could just hide user posts that have too many bricks, like they do in youtube comments.

[tsherkin]

I strongly doubt that negative votes will ever factor into suspensions. It is too open to abuse.

Suspensions could be subject to approval by a mod.

Or you could just hide user posts that have too many bricks, like they do in youtube comments.

This isn't worth it. As always, we respect that you put time in to give your thoughts but this isn't something that'll likely come about because it would directly embarrass other posters. A -1 type option, sure, that's something else. There are karma settings on all kinds of different boards, called this that and the other.

But tying that into moderation isn't going to happen, it's just not wise. The opinions of the regular poster are important fodder for conversation, but whether or not people like or agree with a poster shouldn't really factor into our function as moderators.

[ReturnofMVP3]

I strongly doubt that negative votes will ever factor into suspensions. It is too open to abuse.

Suspensions could be subject to approval by a mod.

Or you could just hide user posts that have too many bricks, like they do in youtube comments.

This isn't worth it. As always, we respect that you put time in to give your thoughts but this isn't something that'll likely come about because it would directly embarrass other posters. A -1 type option, sure, that's something else. There are karma settings on all kinds of different boards, called this that and the other.

But tying that into moderation isn't going to happen, it's just not wise. The opinions of the regular poster are important fodder for conversation, but whether or not people like or agree with a poster shouldn't really factor into our function as moderators.

I thought it was a suspenable offense if your basketball opinions were not liked by other posters (this has nothing to to with you tsherkin ).

[tsherkin]

... o.O?

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[ReturnofMVP3]

... o.O?

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Long story short I was rooting for the knicks in their game thread (because they were playing a bigger threat to my team in the bulls) and was actively discussing with no one getting mad even. Got suspended for 7 days though after i started talking to a guy who said that they were losing because of the refs and i just pointed out that they had more FT and shots weren't falling. Polite discussion and the guy even made a valid point that it may seem like that but the refs were messing their momentum. Well it turns out when I went to reply back I was suspended and told affter that going to the knicks board as an outside fan COULD make others mad or cause problems and therefor trolling. I am sure this sounds odd but you can check out the conversation all summed up here: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1280840&start=2310#p37283851


It's no big deal though, I just thought it was ironic you said that people don't get suspended because others may not like or agree with it .

[kyphi]

probably because of your record...............

[ReturnofMVP3]

probably because of your record...............

We all know my record isn't as bad as it may seem! I've been suspended three times before I believe. Once for talking about Beasley smacking himself for taking a bad shot no different than amare hitting a fire extinguisher? Other time for telling a poster he was sick for taking bets about Greg Oden's knee blowing ( okay I'll take that one), and the other time was because on New Year's Eve last year I jokingly asked to get suspended and one of the off topic mods honored my request. Some warnings too but I think one of them was from my first post here when I accidentally made a compare thread in the general board. Frankly I'm just here to talk about basketball and if I wanted to joke around ill do it on the off topic board

[dream34]

We are going to re-open discussion about a 'brick/foul' button to work as the opposite of And1, but it will not help auto-moderate anything as tsherkin pointed out.

[Flash Falcon X]

It's a great idea, although at the same time may not be good because like someone said, people would just abuse it a lot and it would just spread a lot of negativity across the forum. Posters who get -1s on their posts would either feel discouraged to post anymore on the website or it would piss them off and cause them to go on further rants.

Spammers and trolls could be reported by using the "Report this post" button.

[Effercon]

How about creating the opposite of the And1 button? RealGM'ers could then vote either up or down on posts.

Nix the bit about auto-suspends, and I fully agree with this idea.

[BossHoggin]

Any -1 option sounds like a bad idea that will be abused.

[Baphomet]

It's a great idea, although at the same time may not be good because like someone said, people would just abuse it a lot and it would just spread a lot of negativity across the forum. Posters who get -1s on their posts would either feel discouraged to post anymore on the website or it would piss them off and cause them to go on further rants.

Spammers and trolls could be reported by using the "Report this post" button.

I agree with this. Though I think it's a good idea in theory to identify and admonish bad posts, in practice it might be a little difficult to implement peacefully. We have a diverse group of posters here from many different fanbases, and given the often passionate debates we have, I can't trust people to use such a feature in a constructive fashion. I can foresee fans of a certain team bombing a post because it contains something negative pertaining to their team, even if it's based on fact and isn't inflammatory.

I know that an imaginary score isn't especially important, but on a site as large as RealGM I feel as though the potential for a feature like this to be abused is very high.

[Howard Mass]

We are going to re-open discussion about a 'brick/foul' button to work as the opposite of And1, but it will not help auto-moderate anything as tsherkin pointed out.

Everyone,

Again, we will look into this option when we do more forum upgrades next year.

We appreciate the suggestions.

[Kempistry]

I just had a mod PM me to tell me that a majority of people agreed with his post because he had a certain number of And 1s! That's like Quebec just putting a "yes" option on the ballot lol. Personally I don't like the And1 as people just fish for approval...message boards are for debate IMO, not seeking approval. But others might see this differently.

[tsherkin]

I'm inclined to agree that using And-1s as a justification of any sort really doesn't make a lot of sense, since people will And-1 for a variety of reasons, not all of them logically sound or appropriate.

[Kempistry]

I'm inclined to agree that using And-1s as a justification of any sort really doesn't make a lot of sense, since people will And-1 for a variety of reasons, not all of them logically sound or appropriate.

Exactly Tsherkin. And 5 people liking your post doesn't mean it was a good post, or that a meaningful percentage of people who read it liked it. I think this sort of feature encourages groupthink - what better way to get And-1s than to write something everyone else agrees with? Just my 0.2.

[tsherkin]

And 5 people liking your post doesn't mean it was a good post, or that a meaningful percentage of people who read it liked it.

Certainly. If we're talking about an OP, and on an active board, a thread can have hundreds of views (or more) in a couple of hours. 5 And-1s start to look pretty small.

I don't mind the And-1 feature so much, it helps avoid a lot of the "+1" sort of post-padding crap that we endured a lot more of prior to its installment but it's a gimmick and I don't think expanding upon it is a meaningful development for the forum. I guess "karma" features are fairly popular on various forums but I like to think threadviews and quotes and such are at least a little more substantive in terms of evaluation of a given post.

[REDDzone]

I don't mind the And-1 feature so much, it helps avoid a lot of the "+1" sort of post-padding crap that we endured a lot more of prior to its installment but it's a gimmick and I don't think expanding upon it is a meaningful development for the forum. I guess "karma" features are fairly popular on various forums but I like to think threadviews and quotes and such are at least a little more substantive in terms of evaluation of a given post.

What if posters only had a limited number of and-1s they could do? Like 1 a day or whatever the case may be. There are posters now who go through and and-1 every post in a thread. Maybe then people would only and1 posts that are worthwhile, and maybe some posters wouldn't have 1000s of and-1s just because of what board they post on. IDK, just thinking.