I absolutely HATE the way General NBA board is being run

[Serge28]

When Howard Mass interviewed me for a General NBA board mod position a couple of years back, one of the questions he asked me was, "How would you improve the board to get more people posting on it?" I told him that I would think of creative topics to start new threads and get people to look forward to logging onto RealGM and going over to the General NBA forum to read and post reactions to the latest news in the NBA.

Nowadays the latest NBA news are buried in one of the 10 stickies that currently occupy more than a third of the 1st page and you have posters apologizing for starting a thread that might in any way have something to do with one of those stickies. There is so much that gets locked and with 8 mods policing things it has almost become a contest to see who can find a semi-legitimate reason to lock a thread first.

This weekend you were not allowed to talk about the 3-point shootout, or the dunk contest, or the All Star game. Instead, we got an almost 300 page thread on the All Star weekend and who in their right mind would rifle through it now to find something about an event that happened on Saturday? It is absolutely ridiculous and something needs to be done about it. Otherwise, why not just start one giant thread on the forum and merge anything related to General NBA into it. It would make as little sense as everything else that's been happening on the forum in the past couple of years and that's been discouraging numerous posters, such as myself, from posting on it.

P.S. Just in case someone thinks this is some pathetic to lobby for a modship, it's not. I nave neither the time nor the desire to clean up that mess.

[Howard Mass]

Serge28,

The General NBA moderators chose to contain everything in one thread.

This is common practice for some topics.

It seemed it just go a tad too big with all of the excitement this past weekend.

[jax98]

Serge, I don't post a whole lot on the GB, but I read it quite often. Multiple threads regarding the same topic pops up constantly, so the mods were kind of forced to make stickies on popular conversations. It was for the board and the posters best interest. Just look at how many Pau Gasol/Kobe threads that came up a few hours after the trade.

Obviously, the All-Star weekend is no different, with posters wanting to reaffirm the greatness of their players to other posters.

Last season in the playoffs, we had one stickied thrad for each series. That was absolutely brilliant. 2 fan bases met in one thread, and them moved on afterwards. Worked very, very well.

[FNQ]

Personally I'd rather see some initiative for the ASG, and the playoffs... thats when the Gen Board is nuts.

Make a separate sub forum, only open during the correct times, so these types of threads can be made and not just thrown into the pile. I gave up trying to talk basketball on the Gen Board last playoffs, as any thread that even mentions 'playoffs' gets thrown into the already 20 pg thread stickied up top.

If there were a strictly playoffs section, this wouldnt have to happen... once the playoffs are over, lock the forum up til next year... same with ASG. May take a little more work but I completely agree with the OP, that individual ideas get tied into a more general idea and get lost in the shuffle... and why post at all if thats the case?

[Comet]

^^I really like that idea.

[miller31time]

Everyone has different tastes. We run the board the way we do because it reduces clutter the most. With high-traffic boards like the GB, rules need to be enforced much more strictly than other places.

I know you may not like it, but it would, in my and many others' opinions, be much worse with 10,000 threads on one subject matter.

[wigglestrue]

A separate stickied mega-thread for the Slam Dunk contest at an absolute minimum was an obvious need. Probably would have created non-sticky mega-threads for the 3 Point Contest and the Rook-Soph Game, too. A 300 page thread for All Star Weekend...good god, that must have created more merge-work for you since most people couldn't have imagined that that monster would be the sole place for chatter about all of those events. Anyway, that's just some friendly advice for next year I guess.

[Myth_Breaker]

A separate stickied mega-thread for the Slam Dunk contest at an absolute minimum was an obvious need. Probably would have created non-sticky mega-threads for the 3 Point Contest and the Rook-Soph Game, too. A 300 page thread for All Star Weekend...good god, that must have created more merge-work for you since most people couldn't have imagined that that monster would be the sole place for chatter about all of those events. Anyway, that's just some friendly advice for next year I guess.

Exactly: there should've been separate threads for every ASW event. It wouldn't clutter the General Board, especially as soon afterwards they'd become unstickied anyway.

[Flash3]

When you have 3 topics about Kobe's marvelous game, and then 2 more on Pau Gasol's great night, plus another on Odom's strong performance, how do you not merge all of those into 1? lol

We've had plenty of similar threads as such, and after awhile the same subject is being talked in all 7-8 threads.

[miller31time]

I do, however, like the idea of a separate thread for each of the contests. At the time, it seemed alright to have an ASW thread, since each competition was held at different times, meaning the singular thread could be devoted to a different subject as they arise in the ASW format, but threads for each work too.

[FNQ]

The ASG ideas are nice...

But what about the playoffs? The Gen board is hell when the playoffs go off, and its impossible to get any kind of actual feedback since your posts are enveloped within 1 minute.

There really needs to be some sort of change to the Gen Board for the playoffs.

[miller31time]

The ASG ideas are nice...

But what about the playoffs? The Gen board is hell when the playoffs go off, and its impossible to get any kind of actual feedback since your posts are enveloped within 1 minute.

There really needs to be some sort of change to the Gen Board for the playoffs.

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I always thought the playoffs ran rather smoothly with our current format - a stickied thread for each series. Now, with an ultra-popular series that absolutely everyone is watching (ala Golden State and Dallas), it's a different story, but that's only during gametime, not when they aren't playing.

[Flash3]

Over the past 3 years or so, we've *ALWAYS* had individual threads for each and every playoff series, Finals included.

[FNQ]

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I always thought the playoffs ran rather smoothly with our current format - a stickied thread for each series. Now, with an ultra-popular series that absolutely everyone is watching (ala Golden State and Dallas), it's a different story, but that's only during gametime, not when they aren't playing.

What about talking about individual aspects of the game?

Like focusing on one aspect, or one matchup... I saw a lot of potentially good threads thrown into the pile which was the "X v. Y series"... after about 2 games in the DAL/GS series, I completely gave up talking on the Gen Board as any idea you have is completely enveloped by a series of OMG! and DID YOU SEE THAT!?! or homeristic trash talking between the teams.

Now if there were a separate subforum for the playoffs, and just the playoffs, that wouldn't affect the gen board and how it usually runs, I think it would increase activity to the Gen Board, by a lot.

The playoffs are a time when you can get a lot of unbiased opinions about teams - people who just talk basketball w/o the slanted view of rooting for that team. Last year, it just wasn't possible.

[miller31time]

What about talking about individual aspects of the game?

Like focusing on one aspect, or one matchup... I saw a lot of potentially good threads thrown into the pile which was the "X v. Y series"... after about 2 games in the DAL/GS series, I completely gave up talking on the Gen Board as any idea you have is completely enveloped by a series of OMG! and DID YOU SEE THAT!?! or homeristic trash talking between the teams.

Now if there were a separate subforum for the playoffs, and just the playoffs, that wouldn't affect the gen board and how it usually runs, I think it would increase activity to the Gen Board, by a lot.

The playoffs are a time when you can get a lot of unbiased opinions about teams - people who just talk basketball w/o the slanted view of rooting for that team. Last year, it just wasn't possible.

I would love a playoff sub-forum, but I don't see that as being a realistic option.

I know you won't like this, but all the nitty-gritty thread ideas might just have to go in each team's individual forum. You know members of the opposing team's forum will chime in as well. In a perfect world, we could have all the stickied series threads AND let users post individual thread ideas that still pertain to a particular playoff series, but it would get out of hand and very cluttered (remember, the stickied series threads will take up a large portion of the page, leaving not much room for a lot of other threads). With the current way, we at least allow for decent enough discussion of each series (when the game is not in progress, since all you get is the "Ooh, Ahh-type posts) and still room on the board for non-playoff or non-series related questions and thread ideas.

[theGreatRC]

I know this might not pertain to the topic, but I hate it when we have those playoffs threads for each series, and for 3 straight pages, all you see are the same posts with "WHAT A DUNK BY (player name)". Sometimes I would like to read some insightful posts once in awhile like: "I like how ran off that screen and penetrated into the lane for that dunk, he should use that move more often." That's why I joined Realgm, it seemed to have the most intelligent basketball fans on the web.

(Again, the post was just me venting)

[miller31time]

I know this might not pertain to the topic, but I hate it when we have those playoffs threads for each series, and for 3 straight pages, all you see are the same posts with "WHAT A DUNK BY (player name)". Sometimes I would like to read some insightful posts once in awhile like: "I like how ran off that screen and penetrated into the lane for that dunk, he should use that move more often." That's why I joined Realgm, it seemed to have the most intelligent basketball fans on the web.

(Again, the post was just me venting)

That's why I was trying to push hard for the chat to be used for game-days, a few months ago. It failed miserably, but the purpose was to take away the meaningless (and quite frankly, post padding) posts and keep the game-threads for actual discussion.

Unfortunately, only a few people were in the chat each night and the crowd got smaller as the days progressed.

[FNQ]

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That's why I was trying to push hard for the chat to be used for game-days, a few months ago. It failed miserably, but the purpose was to take away the meaningless (and quite frankly, post padding) posts and keep the game-threads for actual discussion.

Unfortunately, only a few people were in the chat each night and the crowd got smaller as the days progressed.

Wasn't even aware of that...

Would it be too much to series threads and kinda force people into chat during games, then unlock the threads post games?

[theGreatRC]

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That's why I was trying to push hard for the chat to be used for game-days, a few months ago. It failed miserably, but the purpose was to take away the meaningless (and quite frankly, post padding) posts and keep the game-threads for actual discussion.

Unfortunately, only a few people were in the chat each night and the crowd got smaller as the days progressed.

I remember that chat, when you stickied it. I went there a couple of times.

[Flash3]

The chats were a lot of fun and the posts/threads on the GB weren't as such as "OMG, did you see that dunk?!?!?" etc. As, those kind've posts were pertained in the chats.

I'm sure once the new update/upgrades are made to the forums, the chats should be back.