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What exactly constitutes "trolling" another board? 

Post#1 » by righteous015 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:24 pm

I was just giving out some info on the Celtics board and I received a warning from a Forum Mod for apparently trolling on the C's board. ANyone know?
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Post#2 » by Scott Carefoot » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:27 pm

Celtics fans are the most intolerable fanbase in the NBA and the RealGM Celtics board is no exception. I don't know who is in second place (possibly Raptors fans) but it's not a close second. I want that team to fail specifically because of their fans, and I say this as somebody who used to be a Celtics fan before Toronto had a team.
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Post#3 » by righteous015 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:28 pm

Yeah Toronto is second in the Atlantic. I think we're 4.5 games back. Yeah, kind of want them to fail real bad.
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Post#4 » by Exar Kun » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:30 pm

righteous015 wrote:Yeah Toronto is second in the Atlantic. I think we're 4.5 games back. Yeah, kind of want them to fail real bad.


:lol: I think Scott meant, Toronto fans are second worst to the Celtics fans.
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Post#5 » by righteous015 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:33 pm

Exar Kun wrote:
righteous015 wrote:Yeah Toronto is second in the Atlantic. I think we're 4.5 games back. Yeah, kind of want them to fail real bad.


:lol: I think Scott meant, Toronto fans are second worst to the Celtics fans.


oh LOL. my bad. Yeah we probably are second. gotta love raps fans.
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Post#6 » by Scott Carefoot » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:33 pm

Exar Kun wrote:
righteous015 wrote:Yeah Toronto is second in the Atlantic. I think we're 4.5 games back. Yeah, kind of want them to fail real bad.


:lol: I think Scott meant, Toronto fans are second worst to the Celtics fans.


We definitely have the whiniest, most insecure fanbase. Celtics fans are just intolerably arrogant and homeristic. Tommy Heinsohn is truly representative of that fanbase.
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Post#7 » by Spicy P » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:35 pm

Just avoid the Celtics and Knicks boards. Mods on those boards are dumb.
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Post#8 » by darrendaye » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:08 pm

righteous015 wrote:I was just giving out some info on the Celtics board and I received a warning from a Forum Mod for apparently trolling on the C's board. ANyone know?


While I did not issue the warning, I commented on your post in the thread which will hopefully provide you better guidance on what may constitute trolling.
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Post#9 » by ranger001 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:55 pm

Why is it that fans from another team are given a different standard than fans of the Celtics?
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Post#10 » by darrendaye » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:07 pm

ranger001 wrote:Why is it that fans from another team are given a different standard than fans of the Celtics?


Elaborate and I'll be more than willing to discuss. Do you mean that Celtic trolls on other boards are not reprimanded and the mods on the Celtic boards have been consistant in issuing warnings to trolls in their "territory?" Or are you disputing the definition of a troll or that the site has made a distinction in the first place?
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Post#11 » by righteous015 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:23 pm

darrendaye wrote:
righteous015 wrote:I was just giving out some info on the Celtics board and I received a warning from a Forum Mod for apparently trolling on the C's board. ANyone know?


While I did not issue the warning, I commented on your post in the thread which will hopefully provide you better guidance on what may constitute trolling.


OK thanks. How do they even know that I was from the another board?
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Post#12 » by darrendaye » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:43 pm

righteous015 wrote:OK thanks. How do they even know that I was from the another board?


99% of your posts are on another board, 95% are on the Raptors board. (I'm guestimating the percentages btw). What qualifies as "trolling" can in a small way be open to interpretation by some Mods. I was once threatened to be issued a warning once in a game thread for another team, by simply disagreeing with the reaction about a charge/blocking call.

From discussing the matter with RealGM management, it's clear that trolling is defined as an obvious attempt to agitate fans of another team on their board (think of it as a community). You posted feedback in another thread on the C's board questioning how well Nate Robinson will do on the Celtics. Now the natural reaction as a fan may be that there again you, as an opposing fan, are agitating me. But, your response was topical and you presented a rational argument from which to continue a debate or discussion. You did not belittle any of the posters, nor any of the Celtic players. You were simply presenting an opposing view. This, IMO, should never be defined as trolling. I think we all encourage discussion between different team fans even within a team's "home base." We just want to keep it respectful. Also, it stands to reason that on the Celts board (or whatever team) you have liberty to write that X player on Y team is "terrible" or whatever, but there is an expectation that you do not say Kevin Garnett is a punk on the C's board, but can say that without fear of reprisal on your own home base board.
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Re: What exactly constitutes "trolling" another board? 

Post#13 » by ranger001 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:44 pm

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ranger001 wrote:Why is it that fans from another team are given a different standard than fans of the Celtics?


Elaborate and I'll be more than willing to discuss. Do you mean that Celtic trolls on other boards are not reprimanded and the mods on the Celtic boards have been consistant in issuing warnings to trolls in their "territory?" Or are you disputing the definition of a troll or that the site has made a distinction in the first place?

Ok I should have been clearer, it seems he got warned for saying "Kobe didn't play and the C's only won by a point. Kinda says a lot doesn't it". Now if a Celtics fan had said that its not a problem but since its someone else its trolling and he gets a Warning.

Every board mods their own way but this seems to be an extremely short leash, really if you guys are going to have different standards than most of the other realgm boards then at least give the guy a PM or reply to the thread saying "we dont tolerate the slightest bit of that, you get one chance then its a Warning".

If you dont like fans of other teams taking small shots thats up to you, I dont have an issue with the short leash but there shold be a chance so that posters know the standard is a lot stricter.
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Re: What exactly constitutes "trolling" another board? 

Post#14 » by bluefear » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:46 pm

unfortunately, trolling can be posting on another team board....(opinions are not allowed on the internet!)

.....simple as that
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Post#15 » by righteous015 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:52 pm

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righteous015 wrote:OK thanks. How do they even know that I was from the another board?


99% of your posts are on another board, 95% are on the Raptors board. (I'm guestimating the percentages btw). What qualifies as "trolling" can in a small way be open to interpretation by some Mods. I was once threatened to be issued a warning once in a game thread for another team, by simply disagreeing with the reaction about a charge/blocking call.

From discussing the matter with RealGM management, it's clear that trolling is defined as an obvious attempt to agitate fans of another team on their board (think of it as a community). You posted feedback in another thread on the C's board questioning how well Nate Robinson will do on the Celtics. Now the natural reaction as a fan may be that there again you, as an opposing fan, are agitating me. But, your response was topical and you presented a rational argument from which to continue a debate or discussion. You did not belittle any of the posters, nor any of the Celtic players. You were simply presenting an opposing view. This, IMO, should never be defined as trolling. I think we all encourage discussion between different team fans even within a team's "home base." We just want to keep it respectful. Also, it stands to reason that on the Celts board (or whatever team) you have liberty to write that X player on Y team is "terrible" or whatever, but there is an expectation that you do not say Kevin Garnett is a punk on the C's board, but can say that without fear of reprisal on your own home base board.


Understood. Thanks for the clarification. That CanMan dude just went off and took a shot at me Lol.
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Post#16 » by darrendaye » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:17 pm

ranger001 wrote:Every board mods their own way but this seems to be an extremely short leash, really if you guys are going to have different standards than most of the other realgm boards then at least give the guy a PM or reply to the thread saying "we dont tolerate the slightest bit of that, you get one chance then its a Warning".

If you dont like fans of other teams taking small shots thats up to you, I dont have an issue with the short leash but there shold be a chance so that posters know the standard is a lot stricter.


My temperment is more in line with yours, however, I do not believe it is completely out of line for a MOD to expect posters to read the TOS (Terms of Service) prior to posting and have an understanding of the policy. Also, a warning is exactly what it is, a warning. It in no way condemns an otherwise good poster to a poor reputation. The system is meant to recognize repeat offenders and take action before they drive away quality posters. I think we want to perpetuate an environment of free expression but with some degree of insulation within the team forums from unnecessary agitation. We all know that our sports fandom is an emotional investment.
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Re: What exactly constitutes "trolling" another board? 

Post#17 » by ranger001 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:02 pm

I agree posters should read the TOS. However the TOS is applied in different forums differently is what I am saying.
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Re: What exactly constitutes "trolling" another board? 

Post#18 » by raps4life~ » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:59 pm

righteous015 wrote:Then again, the production of a player can't really be based on his performance on one team and then assume that he's going to do the same with the C's. He won't be having the same minutes and same amount of shots as he did in NY. So we'll see. I still think that House was a better sparkplug from deep.



Is that the quote that warranted a warning? Seriously, If that is trolling than let's just ban everyone and close the forum down. Absolutely nothing troll like about that post. If that's not the right quote, then nvm.
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Post#19 » by darrendaye » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:06 pm

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Is that the quote that warranted a warning? Seriously, If that is trolling than let's just ban everyone and close the forum down. Absolutely nothing troll like about that post. If that's not the right quote, then nvm.


Nope, not the post in question.
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Re: What exactly constitutes "trolling" another board? 

Post#20 » by raps4life~ » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:07 pm

darrendaye wrote:
raps4life~ wrote:
Is that the quote that warranted a warning? Seriously, If that is trolling than let's just ban everyone and close the forum down. Absolutely nothing troll like about that post. If that's not the right quote, then nvm.


Nope, not the post in question.


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