Re: NBA Announces WBD Didn't Technically Match Amazon's $1.8 Billion Per Year Offer

[the_process]

I guess the 180M+ Prime subscribers is going to be how NBA tries to argue the agreement is place is not the same. In the end game if you are getting $1.8B/year that is a match right deal. How many households have access to TNT in the USA? I’d have to guess around the same or more than Amazon Prime

I agree that's what the NBA wants to use as their legal basis, and it's definitely why they want Amazon instead of WBD. However, that is not how contract law works. And the NBA should lose this. Unless they go court shopping and find a sympathetic judge? The easier avenue is to pay WBD to go away. Going to be a little costly though. 5B about right?

[Pickled Prunes]

Silver has done everything to make this game unwatchable and it’s working. I’m not going on Prime Video for anything especially live sports.

Do you have a cable package that allows you to watch POR home games? Asking because I'm in POR and I haven't seen a home game on TV in years.

I stream blazers games because that's the only option they've given me with their local monopoly. Prime football games are trash, I can only imagine the NBA coverage is going to be below that.

I have Prime and can't imagine them putting a decent NBA presentation together. It's going to be the NBA equivalent of a 7-11 hotdog.

[Pickled Prunes]

I guess the 180M+ Prime subscribers is going to be how NBA tries to argue the agreement is place is not the same. In the end game if you are getting $1.8B/year that is a match right deal. How many households have access to TNT in the USA? I’d have to guess around the same or more than Amazon Prime

I agree that's what the NBA wants to use as their legal basis, and it's definitely why they want Amazon instead of WBD. However, that is not how contract law works. And the NBA should lose this. Unless they go court shopping and find a sympathetic judge? The easier avenue is to pay WBD to go away. Going to be a little costly though. 5B about right?

My guess is that there is money changing hands that we don't know about.

[The Beam King]

Silver is a slime sleazebag. I don't believe him for a second.

[roberson1986]

it’s funny most of yall ain’t hoops fans because it don’t matter what platform the game as long as the game is ON THEN AS A HOOPS FAN YOU WATCH IT………#2 none of yall can say the nba gonna lose because don’t none of yall know the actual terms of the deal so untill you learn that don’t speculate#3 amazon offers more of a GLOBAL REACH that turner sports so the little bit of money they lose here from yall saying we not watching nba no more they will easily gain back back from the billions of customers from other customers…..its all about $$$ and reach gotta be businesses minded when you building. GLOBAL BRAND

[cheese318]

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Good Luck to you Adam! They are going to get the public opinion on their side

[cheese318]

it’s funny most of yall ain’t hoops fans because it don’t matter what platform the game as long as the game is ON THEN AS A HOOPS FAN YOU WATCH IT………#2 none of yall can say the nba gonna lose because don’t none of yall know the actual terms of the deal so untill you learn that don’t speculate#3 amazon offers more of a GLOBAL REACH that turner sports so the little bit of money they lose here from yall saying we not watching nba no more they will easily gain back back from the billions of customers from other customers…..its all about $$$ and reach gotta be businesses minded when you building. GLOBAL BRAND

I have both platforms so there for I will watch the games

[haste10176]

I guess the 180M+ Prime subscribers is going to be how NBA tries to argue the agreement is place is not the same. In the end game if you are getting $1.8B/year that is a match right deal. How many households have access to TNT in the USA? I’d have to guess around the same or more than Amazon Prime

I agree that's what the NBA wants to use as their legal basis, and it's definitely why they want Amazon instead of WBD. However, that is not how contract law works. And the NBA should lose this. Unless they go court shopping and find a sympathetic judge? The easier avenue is to pay WBD to go away. Going to be a little costly though. 5B about right?

My guess is that there is money changing hands that we don't know about.

5billion that guys on crack.. Also i imagine its several things they will argue including the money put in escrow that wbd cant match and I imagine that provision was in the contract to make this exact case. It will be an interesting legal case I honestly dont know who will win.. I think on prinicpal if wbd has a bank garuntee for the money and has matched everything else required they should win as the spirit of the contract is clearly to give them matching rights. However not knowing all the contractual details I could say more over the US has shown itself to be completely lawless with recent rulings so.. who knows.

[haste10176]

Let's be a bit truthful here, the NBA doesn't like anyone criticizing "the game." Inside the NBA crew, kept it honest, truthful, and respectful. No personal attacks on the players, no personal attacks on the coaches, execs, or even Silver. All they did was keep it to basketball. The guys who've been in the league for 12-22+ years didn't enjoy the fact that they "attacked" them. We darn sure know the newer players hate being criticized, if it's not praise, then they look at it as being "hurtful" and destroy their confidence. Here's another example of what I'm saying, JVG & Mark Jackson, two critical analyses that kept it straight. NBA told the four-letter to get rid of them or "else" and guess what happens? Both of them are gone. So really it's deeper than the "$1.8 Billion Per Year" package. They want new people who will do nothing but keep it to the script. AKA think of MSDNC (msnbc) and CDNC (cnn) and how they run cover for the democratic party.

The only reason they aren't going with TNT is TNT stuffed negoations up from the start or they would of had the same package as espn. Your point about CNN and MSNBC bias towards democrats is 100% accurate however it pales in comparison to fox news for the republicans. They both do it but fox is the next next level. All of them are bought by corporate money anyway and that includes the politicians as they allow for legal bribery even the supreme court is bribed now. Good luck!

[jefe]

That's just like ... your opinion, man.

[the_process]

Let's be a bit truthful here, the NBA doesn't like anyone criticizing "the game." Inside the NBA crew, kept it honest, truthful, and respectful. No personal attacks on the players, no personal attacks on the coaches, execs, or even Silver. All they did was keep it to basketball. The guys who've been in the league for 12-22+ years didn't enjoy the fact that they "attacked" them. We darn sure know the newer players hate being criticized, if it's not praise, then they look at it as being "hurtful" and destroy their confidence. Here's another example of what I'm saying, JVG & Mark Jackson, two critical analyses that kept it straight. NBA told the four-letter to get rid of them or "else" and guess what happens? Both of them are gone. So really it's deeper than the "$1.8 Billion Per Year" package. They want new people who will do nothing but keep it to the script. AKA think of MSDNC (msnbc) and CDNC (cnn) and how they run cover for the democratic party.

The only reason they aren't going with TNT is TNT stuffed negoations up from the start or they would have had the same package as espn. Your point about CNN and MSNBC bias towards democrats is 100% accurate however it pales in comparison to fox news for the republicans. They both do it but fox is the next next level. All of them are bought by corporate money anyway and that includes the politicians as they allow for legal bribery even the supreme court is bribed now. Good luck!

There's no network in the history of networks that is more in the bag for a political ideology/political party than MSNBC. Goebbels is jealous of the level of propaganda generated out of that hack box. But I digress.

5B might be too rich, but I would bet it's going to take ten digits to make WBD go away quietly.

[MitchB3]

it’s funny most of yall ain’t hoops fans because it don’t matter what platform the game as long as the game is ON THEN AS A HOOPS FAN YOU WATCH IT………#2 none of yall can say the nba gonna lose because don’t none of yall know the actual terms of the deal so untill you learn that don’t speculate#3 amazon offers more of a GLOBAL REACH that turner sports so the little bit of money they lose here from yall saying we not watching nba no more they will easily gain back back from the billions of customers from other customers…..its all about $$$ and reach gotta be businesses minded when you building. GLOBAL BRAND

Your first point is a bit false. Because "REAL HOOPS FAN" They do care and they aren't trying to add more bills/another streaming service. The "old heads" tend to watch their favorite teams, so they go to their local sports network, i.e. MSG Network, Yes Network (for the NYers), then they branch out to e-s-p-n, TNT, NBATV. They don't want to learn a new way. As for the millennials, we're more tech savage and will get the streaming services, but we just go to basketball streamers or whatever you call watching the games for free. Gen z, they watch highlights on tik-tok. So your point of "Real Hoops Fan" is more or less geared towards the "oldheads"

[MitchB3]

I guess the 180M+ Prime subscribers is going to be how NBA tries to argue the agreement is place is not the same. In the end game if you are getting $1.8B/year that is a match right deal. How many households have access to TNT in the USA? I’d have to guess more than Amazon Prime subs or about the same. Litigation is coming and if Adam really wants Amazon maybe he’ll pay to make TNT go away

Let's be honest for a bit, out of the 180M+ Prime subscribers, how many of them are really sports fans? How many actually use Prime Video? So if the NBA wants to say will Amazon have a "larger audience" but if it's still the same viewership numbers does it make sense?