Knicks Fire Tom Thibodeau As Head Coach

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Re: Knicks Fire Tom Thibodeau As Head Coach 

Post#21 » by NUMBERICA » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:14 pm

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Re: Knicks Fire Tom Thibodeau As Head Coach 

Post#22 » by Dubbz » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:40 pm

Malone didn’t play his bench either and look what happened.
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Re: Knicks Fire Tom Thibodeau As Head Coach 

Post#23 » by Pickled Prunes » Wed Jun 4, 2025 1:28 am

scrabbarista wrote:Regarding the report they didn't like KAT's defense:

Hey Knicks, here's an idea, DON'T PLAY HIM AT CENTER BECAUSE HE'S NOT A CENTER.

Regarding this firing, it's a bit like the Malone thing in that Thibs is probably an above average coach, but he has flaws that put a ceiling on your team and he's not top tier.

And the thing playing the starters every second of the RS is probably a bigger deal in 2025 than it would've been at at any point before.

Hire the right replacement, and this could be amazing for New York.

PS Van Lathan was right.

Malone didn't have a bench. Different situations for sure.
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Re: Knicks Fire Tom Thibodeau As Head Coach 

Post#24 » by BigTex » Wed Jun 4, 2025 1:30 am

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:Good. He plays players too many minutes. This Knick team is signed too long to the Knicks to play with their health. They don't have any picks and can't afford to gamble with their future. Also, this Knicks team is better than the Pacers, but still lost in 6 games.


Pacers are a better team than the Knicks. They are a deeper team than the Knicks. And they had a much better coach than the Knicks.
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Re: Knicks Fire Tom Thibodeau As Head Coach 

Post#25 » by Pickled Prunes » Wed Jun 4, 2025 2:15 am

I don't understand the surprise or outrage. This needed to happen. They have great talent but they can't run this back and expect different results. This decision was inevitable.
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Re: Knicks Fire Tom Thibodeau As Head Coach 

Post#26 » by Thechicagorilla » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:59 am

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scrabbarista wrote:Regarding the report they didn't like KAT's defense:

Hey Knicks, here's an idea, DON'T PLAY HIM AT CENTER BECAUSE HE'S NOT A CENTER.

Regarding this firing, it's a bit like the Malone thing in that Thibs is probably an above average coach, but he has flaws that put a ceiling on your team and he's not top tier.

And the thing playing the starters every second of the RS is probably a bigger deal in 2025 than it would've been at at any point before.

Hire the right replacement, and this could be amazing for New York.

PS Van Lathan was right.


To be fair, they didn't have anybody else to play at center. Mitch was out basically until the playoffs and Precious isn't really a center either. Not being able to retain Hartenstein killed them and forced them to pull that desperation move for KAT IMO.


Even when Mitch returned, he was hardly used. Him being thrown starter minutes in the middle of the playoffs messed the chemistry up, he should’ve been starting
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Re: Knicks Fire Tom Thibodeau As Head Coach 

Post#27 » by alienpick » Wed Jun 4, 2025 6:09 am

btipton wrote:This is the most Knicks move ever.


Amen. Knicks gonna Knick. Classic
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Re: Knicks Fire Tom Thibodeau As Head Coach 

Post#28 » by 23artest23 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:43 am

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:Good. He plays players too many minutes. This Knick team is signed too long to the Knicks to play with their health. They don't have any picks and can't afford to gamble with their future. Also, this Knicks team is better than the Pacers, but still lost in 6 games.


Pure delusion. If this Knick team were the better squad, they wouldn't be in Cancun right now. The team has little to no depth beyond the starters and what depth it has wouldn't even get burn on the Pacers roster because of how deep they are. Even the starters...Ill take the Indy starters over the Knicks any day. The Knicks can have the big names while the Pacers enjoy having the better players.
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Re: Knicks Fire Tom Thibodeau As Head Coach 

Post#29 » by TheCage4 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 10:59 am

Yes, the Knicks were successful, but Thibs is Thibs. He runs his guys into the ground, he always has. He plays iso and hero ball on offense. His schemes on both ends of the court are stagnant and predictable. He's not a championship coach.

As for the next coach...does it matter? There are flaws on the team. Even if they use their bench players, they aren't deep. I believe they've topped out in terms of what they can do with this current iteration of the team, but there isn't much they can do outside of trades.
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Re: Knicks Fire Tom Thibodeau As Head Coach 

Post#30 » by StlHawksFan » Wed Jun 4, 2025 11:08 am

BigTex wrote:
dirkdiggler4177 wrote:Good. He plays players too many minutes. This Knick team is signed too long to the Knicks to play with their health. They don't have any picks and can't afford to gamble with their future. Also, this Knicks team is better than the Pacers, but still lost in 6 games.


Pacers are a better team than the Knicks. They are a deeper team than the Knicks. And they had a much better coach than the Knicks.


Yes to the the laat two but not the first.

Thibs blew game 1 by not resting the starters when they had a big lead. He could have given them even a minute and then brought them in. Then they don't miss rotations at the end and it doesn't ever really come down to a 25 foot bounce off the rim.

If NY wins game 1, they are up 2-1 after 3. And then up 3-2 after 5. And then they get a game 7 at home.

Indy still may have won the series but it looks very different if game 1 doesn't end like that.
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Re: Knicks Fire Tom Thibodeau As Head Coach 

Post#31 » by Tamimi » Wed Jun 4, 2025 12:54 pm

I'm just wondering when some say that both Tibs and Malone didn't play their respective benches. Whom are we talking about? In the Knicks, are we talking about giving more minutes to Payne, Achiuwa and Delon Wright for example (Tibs already came to the playoffs playing McBride and Robinson when he was available)? Is there a player/s on the Knicks bench who's worthy of more minutes (maybe Shamet?) to the point of making a difference?

And the same question goes for Malone in Denver. The main reason why both Tibs (at least in New York) and Malone didn't play their benches much is because they don't have good enough (or consistent) players on those benches. In both cases, the GMs allocated most of the cap to the starters thus limiting their ability to acquire good bench players from the market.
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Re: Knicks Fire Tom Thibodeau As Head Coach 

Post#32 » by CaHgO » Wed Jun 4, 2025 12:57 pm

Thibs would be great for the Hawks.
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Re: Knicks Fire Tom Thibodeau As Head Coach 

Post#33 » by Barcs » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:32 pm

Pickled Prunes wrote:
scrabbarista wrote:Regarding the report they didn't like KAT's defense:

Hey Knicks, here's an idea, DON'T PLAY HIM AT CENTER BECAUSE HE'S NOT A CENTER.

Regarding this firing, it's a bit like the Malone thing in that Thibs is probably an above average coach, but he has flaws that put a ceiling on your team and he's not top tier.

And the thing playing the starters every second of the RS is probably a bigger deal in 2025 than it would've been at at any point before.

Hire the right replacement, and this could be amazing for New York.

PS Van Lathan was right.

Malone didn't have a bench. Different situations for sure.


To be fair, the Knicks barely had a bench either.
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Re: Knicks Fire Tom Thibodeau As Head Coach 

Post#34 » by Barcs » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:34 pm

Thechicagorilla wrote:
Barcs wrote:
scrabbarista wrote:Regarding the report they didn't like KAT's defense:

Hey Knicks, here's an idea, DON'T PLAY HIM AT CENTER BECAUSE HE'S NOT A CENTER.

Regarding this firing, it's a bit like the Malone thing in that Thibs is probably an above average coach, but he has flaws that put a ceiling on your team and he's not top tier.

And the thing playing the starters every second of the RS is probably a bigger deal in 2025 than it would've been at at any point before.

Hire the right replacement, and this could be amazing for New York.

PS Van Lathan was right.


To be fair, they didn't have anybody else to play at center. Mitch was out basically until the playoffs and Precious isn't really a center either. Not being able to retain Hartenstein killed them and forced them to pull that desperation move for KAT IMO.


Even when Mitch returned, he was hardly used. Him being thrown starter minutes in the middle of the playoffs messed the chemistry up, he should’ve been starting


I don't agree with that in the slightest. Mitch was one of our top +/- guys and clearly makes an impact defensively in regards to rim protection, something that doesn't exist when he's off the court. The problem with Mitch is his offense and free throw shooting. I thought replacing Hart with him in the starting lineup made a lot of sense.
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