Kyrie Irving's Position Not Anti-Vaccine, Wants To Challenge A Perceived Control Of Society

[lonea]

You ARE a anti vaccine person.

More people die from covid than getting the vaccine.

I'm not an anti vaccine person but I already know one guy died from it in my gym but everyone is scared to talk about it however his best friend told me that it was shortly after getting vaccinated he started coughing up blood. Maybe a coincidence but who knows. I'm just waiting on some additional research to be done. In NYC if u don't have vaccine you can't go in so I stopped going to my gym and rather spend that time playing ball for exercise.
History repeating itself here. I stand with Kyrie and other "woke idiots" as some of you may call us. Keep believing the media and following the herd. And then we wonder how citizens on mass scale were cool with German army throwing people in concentration camps, how the Americans were cool throwing their Japanese American neighbors in concentration camps during WW2 and why Iraq invasion which made absolute no sense was carried out with little to no opposition. Fear works and preech something 24/7 in media and people will eat it up.

[lonea]

No such thing as god bruh

I'm not an anti vaccine person but I already know one guy died from it in my gym but everyone is scared to talk about it however his best friend told me that it was shortly after getting vaccinated he started coughing up blood. Maybe a coincidence but who knows. I'm just waiting on some additional research to be done. In NYC if u don't have vaccine you can't go in so I stopped going to my gym and rather spend that time playing ball for exercise.
History repeating itself here. I stand with Kyrie and other "woke idiots" as some of you may call us. Keep believing the media and following the herd. And then we wonder how citizens on mass scale were cool with German army throwing people in concentration camps, how the Americans were cool throwing their Japanese American neighbors in concentration camps during WW2 and why Iraq invasion which made absolute no sense was carried out with little to no opposition. Fear works and preech something 24/7 in media and people will eat it up.

History is always repeating itself and people never learn. God is watching and will make everyone pay for their actions.

[lonea]

Where did you get your degree from ?

Or do you even have one?

Zzzzzzzzz. The entire Republican Party is the voice for anti-science, anti-public health rubbish. So he's hardly doing anything special.

Yep

The low IQ party

This is absolutely not true. People not wanting to get the vaccine are of all political persuasions the largest unvaxxed group is black people.

Most of these people who claim to be so smart and "believe in science" are nothing more than religious fanatics who believe what they are told to believe by the Dr Frankenfuchi types. They couldn't tell you the first thing about "science" that was not fed to them by their masters.

[23artest23]

what is abundantly clear here is how many of these hateful people feel no remorse for any regular people who don’t want to inject themselves with a vaccine with pretty serious potential side effects, way more serious than just getting covid and recovering. these people are now losing their jobs, australia, canada, germany (ironically), and the US are building “quarantine camps” (not conspiracy theory, fact, look it up) and people like the ones on this forum would gladly chuck these people in there because the government has told you to be afraid of them, that they are different, etc. this is medical tyranny and fascism in such blatant terms it is scary that people can’t see it. i hope people are able to take a look in the mirror when the day of judgment comes. not by god, but by your own conscience. many questions will be answered this winter, will you have the courage to realize you were wrong? we unvaccinated need you and all you do is spew hate and wish the worst on us even though you are theoretically protected from us. truly a mad, sick world. you are the sick ones. i hope compassion and understanding one day grows in you all.

I feel absolutely no remorse for you or others like you. That mindset is terrible and those with it are responsible for countless deaths that likely didn't have to occur that way. You folks deserve any trouble you get and then some. The arrogance to think that you should be allowed to work unvaccinated and be a hazard to those around you...get yourself help. As soon as we get thru this pandemic, I hope to see our government make mental health resources vast and free because it's never been as apparent as it is now that we have a tremendous need. Seriously man, go ask for help at your local hospital. Worst that can come of it is that it doesn't help, you refuse to engage, and/or you end up will bills that likely could be covered by someone other than you.

[kalel123]

Can't be much of a voice for the voiceless when most people think you are arrogant POS and don't respect your voice to begin with.

And even if we are to believe he's not anti-vaccine, then WTF is he?

What about his teammates and coaches who he should share an ultimate goal with that need him?

What about the truly voiceless? The people who have lost their lives to Covid? Or the people who've lost their family members to Covid? What about them?

This guy's hypocrisy and arrogance is truly too much to bear.

[Note30]

Kyrie always a little extra, seems like a good dude tho, he was out getting PPE supplies for the Indigenous peeps during the early days of the pandemic.

He just doing one of those things that makes zero sense to anybody but him. Like when he talks about his reincarnation theories.

Doubt this is actually malicious tho.

My guess is he folds in a few weeks.

[basketballwacko2]

Where did you get your degree from ?

Or do you even have one?

Yep

The low IQ party

This is absolutely not true. People not wanting to get the vaccine are of all political persuasions the largest unvaxxed group is black people.

Most of these people who claim to be so smart and "believe in science" are nothing more than religious fanatics who believe what they are told to believe by the Dr Frankenfuchi types. They couldn't tell you the first thing about "science" that was not fed to them by their masters.

Indiana University Business School BS in Economics and MBA, and 2 years law school at IU Law. I minored in Chemistry and Math.

[lonea]

So what you saying is, you have no background in medical science and making all these claims ?

Thanks bud!

Where did you get your degree from ?

Or do you even have one?

This is absolutely not true. People not wanting to get the vaccine are of all political persuasions the largest unvaxxed group is black people.

Most of these people who claim to be so smart and "believe in science" are nothing more than religious fanatics who believe what they are told to believe by the Dr Frankenfuchi types. They couldn't tell you the first thing about "science" that was not fed to them by their masters.

Indiana University Business School BS in Economics and MBA, and 2 years law school at IU Law. I minored in Chemistry and Math.

[basketballwacko2]

So what you saying is, you have no background in medical science and making all these claims ?

Thanks bud!

Where did you get your degree from ?

Or do you even have one?

Indiana University Business School BS in Economics and MBA, and 2 years law school at IU Law. I minored in Chemistry and Math.

And I suppose you are a grad of the Johns Hopkins Medical School. I'll put my education up against anyone on this site. My Chemistry and Math skills are in the top 1% as I had 4.00 GPA in those subjects. I don't need some child to use this "Where did you get your MD." BS on me. Got it.

[basketballwacko2]

what is abundantly clear here is how many of these hateful people feel no remorse for any regular people who don’t want to inject themselves with a vaccine with pretty serious potential side effects, way more serious than just getting covid and recovering. these people are now losing their jobs, australia, canada, germany (ironically), and the US are building “quarantine camps” (not conspiracy theory, fact, look it up) and people like the ones on this forum would gladly chuck these people in there because the government has told you to be afraid of them, that they are different, etc. this is medical tyranny and fascism in such blatant terms it is scary that people can’t see it. i hope people are able to take a look in the mirror when the day of judgment comes. not by god, but by your own conscience. many questions will be answered this winter, will you have the courage to realize you were wrong? we unvaccinated need you and all you do is spew hate and wish the worst on us even though you are theoretically protected from us. truly a mad, sick world. you are the sick ones. i hope compassion and understanding one day grows in you all.

I feel absolutely no remorse for you or others like you. That mindset is terrible and those with it are responsible for countless deaths that likely didn't have to occur that way. You folks deserve any trouble you get and then some. The arrogance to think that you should be allowed to work unvaccinated and be a hazard to those around you...get yourself help. As soon as we get thru this pandemic, I hope to see our government make mental health resources vast and free because it's never been as apparent as it is now that we have a tremendous need. Seriously man, go ask for help at your local hospital. Worst that can come of it is that it doesn't help, you refuse to engage, and/or you end up will bills that likely could be covered by someone other than you.

I believe that anyone who thinks that an Unvaccinated person is a threat to a vaccinated person needs to have a mental exam. IF your vaccine works and you are protected how is a non-vaccinated person any "hazard" to you. Does the Vaccine work or not? Major studies have shown that breakthrough cases for vaccinated persons happen at a rate of 27 times for each person who has had the virus who has a 2nd infection. So to spell this out for you 27 vaxxed persons get the virus while only 1 person who has had the virus gets it again. This is called natural immunity.

Someone in another thread is parroting the Biden talking points blaming the unvaxxed for the delta variant when this is not true, that variant came out of India. But ask yourself a question if this government is serious about stopping this infection why are they allowing thousands of "unvaccinated" and untested illegal aliens to cross the border and then seeding them all over the USA? How many of the 120,000 Afghans who were shipped into the USA last month have been vaccinated? Or even tested. Yet they and 1000's of illegal border crossers have been placed in communities and their medical bills are being paid by the Federal Govt.

“The differences are huge,” says Thålin, although she cautions that the numbers for infections and other events analyzed for the comparisons were “small.” For instance, the higher hospitalization rate in the 32,000-person analysis was based on just eight hospitalizations in a vaccinated group and one in a previously infected group. And the 13-fold increased risk of infection in the same analysis was based on just 238 infections in the vaccinated population, less than 1.5% of the more than 16,000 people, versus 19 reinfections among a similar number of people who once had SARS-CoV-2.

No one in the study who got a new SARS-CoV-2 infection died—which prevented a comparison of death rates but is a clear sign that vaccines still offer a formidable shield against serious disease, even if not as good as natural immunity. Moreover, natural immunity is far from perfect. Although reinfections with SARS-CoV-2 are rare

https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital

[Rapsfan07]

Really proud of Kyrie for doing this.

The government is openly pissing on people's rights over an unproven vaccine that doesn't even protect you from the virus and if you stand up to them, you're the bad guy.

You just can't make this **** up.

[t-rexCity]

I'm not an anti vaccine person but I already know one guy died from it in my gym but everyone is scared to talk about it however his best friend told me that it was shortly after getting vaccinated he started coughing up blood. Maybe a coincidence but who knows. I'm just waiting on some additional research to be done. In NYC if u don't have vaccine you can't go in so I stopped going to my gym and rather spend that time playing ball for exercise.
History repeating itself here. I stand with Kyrie and other "woke idiots" as some of you may call us. Keep believing the media and following the herd. And then we wonder how citizens on mass scale were cool with German army throwing people in concentration camps, how the Americans were cool throwing their Japanese American neighbors in concentration camps during WW2 and why Iraq invasion which made absolute no sense was carried out with little to no opposition. Fear works and preech something 24/7 in media and people will eat it up.

This right here. The man makes his point that he made up his mind about a pandemic based on info from a best friend of some guy who went to a gym somewhere. And then he concludes his arguments with references to ww2 and concentration camps !?!!? LoL. I'm done with internet.

[daniel3]

One would think the real voiceless are the hundreds of thousands dead or millions being hospitalized for serious illness. All I see on social media is people fighting for their freedom to act as incubators for a fairly new disease with completely unknown future.

[lonea]

Majority of the ppl hospitalized are unvaccinated. The science and data back this up.

You know why nurses, Doctors are overworked, overstressed? Because of these unvaccinated dumbasses.

You know why surgeries are getting postponed? Because of these unvaccinated dumbasses.

You know who needs to take care of these unvaccinated dumbasses? Nurses, Doctors.

You know who also treats the vaccinated people? Nurses, Doctors.

If you think your unvaccinated ass isn't affecting vaccinated, you are just a selfish prick.

Lastly, don't even pretend you are "educated" on this matter. Because you are not.

what is abundantly clear here is how many of these hateful people feel no remorse for any regular people who don’t want to inject themselves with a vaccine with pretty serious potential side effects, way more serious than just getting covid and recovering. these people are now losing their jobs, australia, canada, germany (ironically), and the US are building “quarantine camps” (not conspiracy theory, fact, look it up) and people like the ones on this forum would gladly chuck these people in there because the government has told you to be afraid of them, that they are different, etc. this is medical tyranny and fascism in such blatant terms it is scary that people can’t see it. i hope people are able to take a look in the mirror when the day of judgment comes. not by god, but by your own conscience. many questions will be answered this winter, will you have the courage to realize you were wrong? we unvaccinated need you and all you do is spew hate and wish the worst on us even though you are theoretically protected from us. truly a mad, sick world. you are the sick ones. i hope compassion and understanding one day grows in you all.

I feel absolutely no remorse for you or others like you. That mindset is terrible and those with it are responsible for countless deaths that likely didn't have to occur that way. You folks deserve any trouble you get and then some. The arrogance to think that you should be allowed to work unvaccinated and be a hazard to those around you...get yourself help. As soon as we get thru this pandemic, I hope to see our government make mental health resources vast and free because it's never been as apparent as it is now that we have a tremendous need. Seriously man, go ask for help at your local hospital. Worst that can come of it is that it doesn't help, you refuse to engage, and/or you end up will bills that likely could be covered by someone other than you.

I believe that anyone who thinks that an Unvaccinated person is a threat to a vaccinated person needs to have a mental exam. IF your vaccine works and you are protected how is a non-vaccinated person any "hazard" to you. Does the Vaccine work or not? Major studies have shown that breakthrough cases for vaccinated persons happen at a rate of 27 times for each person who has had the virus who has a 2nd infection. So to spell this out for you 27 vaxxed persons get the virus while only 1 person who has had the virus gets it again. This is called natural immunity.

Someone in another thread is parroting the Biden talking points blaming the unvaxxed for the delta variant when this is not true, that variant came out of India. But ask yourself a question if this government is serious about stopping this infection why are they allowing thousands of "unvaccinated" and untested illegal aliens to cross the border and then seeding them all over the USA? How many of the 120,000 Afghans who were shipped into the USA last month have been vaccinated? Or even tested. Yet they and 1000's of illegal border crossers have been placed in communities and their medical bills are being paid by the Federal Govt.

“The differences are huge,” says Thålin, although she cautions that the numbers for infections and other events analyzed for the comparisons were “small.” For instance, the higher hospitalization rate in the 32,000-person analysis was based on just eight hospitalizations in a vaccinated group and one in a previously infected group. And the 13-fold increased risk of infection in the same analysis was based on just 238 infections in the vaccinated population, less than 1.5% of the more than 16,000 people, versus 19 reinfections among a similar number of people who once had SARS-CoV-2.

No one in the study who got a new SARS-CoV-2 infection died—which prevented a comparison of death rates but is a clear sign that vaccines still offer a formidable shield against serious disease, even if not as good as natural immunity. Moreover, natural immunity is far from perfect. Although reinfections with SARS-CoV-2 are rare

https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital

[lonea]

Hah, I never claimed as such. Nor have I tried to throw shades at a top Doctor who is trying to save your ass from dying.

LOL top 4.00GPA and participating on a sports forum ?



Thanks for the good laugh bud.

You should just go back to breitbart

So what you saying is, you have no background in medical science and making all these claims ?

Thanks bud!

Indiana University Business School BS in Economics and MBA, and 2 years law school at IU Law. I minored in Chemistry and Math.

And I suppose you are a grad of the Johns Hopkins Medical School. I'll put my education up against anyone on this site. My Chemistry and Math skills are in the top 1% as I had 4.00 GPA in those subjects. I don't need some child to use this "Where did you get your MD." BS on me. Got it.

[nedleeds]

Love it. Stand up for hard working people who have survived and endured Covid and have the biology to prove it and move the conversation from insane anti-vax people who think there are chips in them and insane anti-immune system vaccine fetishists to a sane middle.

[nedleeds]

Majority of the ppl hospitalized are unvaccinated. The science and data back this up.

You know why nurses, Doctors are overworked, overstressed? Because of these unvaccinated dumbasses.

You know why surgeries are getting postponed? Because of these unvaccinated dumbasses.

You know who needs to take care of these unvaccinated dumbasses? Nurses, Doctors.

You know who also treats the vaccinated people? Nurses, Doctors.

If you think your unvaccinated ass isn't affecting vaccinated, you are just a selfish prick.

Lastly, don't even pretend you are "educated" on this matter. Because you are not.

But we're firing these same MDs and nurses with higher measurable immunity in their semi-quant and t-cell ab tests than people 6 months removed from Pfizer 2nd dose?



No sane human doesn't think having immunity in your healthcare staff is a must. The sane people are staring at mass firings of healthy hard working people who had covid already and wonder wtf. The fact that this will disproportionately impact black people is icing on the cake, 28% of Black New Yorkers between the ages of 18 and 44 are fully vaccinated. Meaning more of them will get fired, strange the normal brigade of ambulance chasers aren't yelling systemic racism here.

[lonea]

Actually no.

If you work in the field that require you to have trust in it but you don't, you should be be fired. No question asked.

Your personal choice & believes < hundred of years of science advancement.

The "disproportionately black people" can get their asses to get vaccinated like the rest of us.

Majority of the ppl hospitalized are unvaccinated. The science and data back this up.

You know why nurses, Doctors are overworked, overstressed? Because of these unvaccinated dumbasses.

You know why surgeries are getting postponed? Because of these unvaccinated dumbasses.

You know who needs to take care of these unvaccinated dumbasses? Nurses, Doctors.

You know who also treats the vaccinated people? Nurses, Doctors.

If you think your unvaccinated ass isn't affecting vaccinated, you are just a selfish prick.

Lastly, don't even pretend you are "educated" on this matter. Because you are not.

But we're firing these same MDs and nurses with higher measurable immunity in their semi-quant and t-cell ab tests than people 6 months removed from Pfizer 2nd dose?



No sane human doesn't think having immunity in your healthcare staff is a must. The sane people are staring at mass firings of healthy hard working people who had covid already and wonder wtf. The fact that this will disproportionately impact black people is icing on the cake, 28% of Black New Yorkers between the ages of 18 and 44 are fully vaccinated. Meaning more of them will get fired, strange the normal brigade of ambulance chasers aren't yelling systemic racism here.

[jstudabaka]

Zzzzzzzzz. The entire Republican Party is the voice for anti-science, anti-public health rubbish. So he's hardly doing anything special.

Yep

The low IQ party

This is absolutely not true. People not wanting to get the vaccine are of all political persuasions the largest unvaxxed group is black people.

Most of these people who claim to be so smart and "believe in science" are nothing more than religious fanatics who believe what they are told to believe by the Dr Frankenfuchi types. They couldn't tell you the first thing about "science" that was not fed to them by their masters.

Ok. Tell me with facts and science -- not abstractions about "control" or "religious fanatics" -- why anyone in their right mind should not get vaccinated, aside from the very small number of people who may have some kind of valid medical reason.

[FreeBoosie]

I'm not an anti vaccine person but I already know one guy died from it in my gym but everyone is scared to talk about it however his best friend told me that it was shortly after getting vaccinated he started coughing up blood. Maybe a coincidence but who knows. I'm just waiting on some additional research to be done. In NYC if u don't have vaccine you can't go in so I stopped going to my gym and rather spend that time playing ball for exercise.
History repeating itself here. I stand with Kyrie and other "woke idiots" as some of you may call us. Keep believing the media and following the herd. And then we wonder how citizens on mass scale were cool with German army throwing people in concentration camps, how the Americans were cool throwing their Japanese American neighbors in concentration camps during WW2 and why Iraq invasion which made absolute no sense was carried out with little to no opposition. Fear works and preech something 24/7 in media and people will eat it up.

This right here. The man makes his point that he made up his mind about a pandemic based on info from a best friend of some guy who went to a gym somewhere. And then he concludes his arguments with references to ww2 and concentration camps !?!!? LoL. I'm done with internet.

How dare you assume I'm a man while I identify as a potato this week u bigot?!?!?!