Nuggets Won't Bring Back George Karl

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Re: Nuggets Won't Bring Back George Karl 

Post#21 » by Jeff Van Gully » Sat Jun 8, 2013 4:51 pm

enderwilson wrote:
Ron Mexico wrote:george karl is booooring.

(can't believe i'm first to say that.)

Rashidi wrote:You guys do realize this is the same George Karl who plays JaVale McGee less than 20 mpg despite his 10M salary, right?


eh, salary shouldn't dictate PT. javale mcgee is good in doses. that might be one of the smarter moves he's made, to platoon koufos and mcgee. javale needs a brain first. not sure if that maturity and BBIQ are ever going to happen for him.


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I'll take that kind of boring to coach my team ANY DAY.


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Re: Nuggets Won't Bring Back George Karl 

Post#22 » by Rashidi » Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:03 pm

Ron Mexico wrote:
Rashidi wrote:
Ron Mexico wrote:george karl is booooring.

(can't believe i'm first to say that.)



eh, salary shouldn't dictate PT. javale mcgee is good in doses. that might be one of the smarter moves he's made, to platoon koufos and mcgee. javale needs a brain first. not sure if that maturity and BBIQ are ever going to happen for him.



1. McGee isn't going to get a brain... [fixed]
2. It was a 3-way platoon w/ Mozgov in the mix as well for much of the year (and moreso last year). [true that]
3. McGee's talent/athleticism outweigh his lack of maturity and IQ. [i never bet on the moron, especially in crunch time. you can't make a statement like this and be serious about winning.]
4. We're talking about KOSTA KOUFOS here. Among players w/ 1K mins, McGee was 2nd on the team in scoring rate while Koufos was 9th (last). [scoring isn't everything. and there's no lack of it in their first unit.]



i hear where you're coming from. maybe he should play more than he does. but i'm not second guessing a coach who limits the minutes of an absolutely maddening player. the worst part is, it's not even always lack of effort with him. i think his heart is usually in the right place, and his maturity is improving. but at this point, he is what he is. he ain't gonna ever be reliable. and that's what you need from a pro... a veteran, no less.

how long do you wait for a guy like that to pan out?


McGee has a ton of similarities to Chris Andersen... a player Karl outright refused to use at all for no given reason.

How is that working out?
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Re: Nuggets Won't Bring Back George Karl 

Post#23 » by Jeff Van Gully » Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:03 pm

Rashidi wrote:
Ron Mexico wrote:
Rashidi wrote:

1. McGee isn't going to get a brain... [fixed]
2. It was a 3-way platoon w/ Mozgov in the mix as well for much of the year (and moreso last year). [true that]
3. McGee's talent/athleticism outweigh his lack of maturity and IQ. [i never bet on the moron, especially in crunch time. you can't make a statement like this and be serious about winning.]
4. We're talking about KOSTA KOUFOS here. Among players w/ 1K mins, McGee was 2nd on the team in scoring rate while Koufos was 9th (last). [scoring isn't everything. and there's no lack of it in their first unit.]



i hear where you're coming from. maybe he should play more than he does. but i'm not second guessing a coach who limits the minutes of an absolutely maddening player. the worst part is, it's not even always lack of effort with him. i think his heart is usually in the right place, and his maturity is improving. but at this point, he is what he is. he ain't gonna ever be reliable. and that's what you need from a pro... a veteran, no less.

how long do you wait for a guy like that to pan out?


McGee has a ton of similarities to Chris Andersen... a player Karl outright refused to use at all for no given reason.

How is that working out?


andersen still is a sparingly used role player with character issues. can't crack 15mpg on a team starved for size.

he also had his best seasons and played the most minutes of his career on george karl's nuggets.

not the best example, and not really relevant to the mcgee discussion.
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Re: Nuggets Won't Bring Back George Karl 

Post#24 » by enderwilson » Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:17 pm

Ron Mexico wrote:see: "so right" (the j.r. smith song)


Ahhh. I see.

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