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Post#21 » by MaxZaslofskyJr » Sun Oct 6, 2013 1:16 am

When asked about his BBIQ, Dwight responded I like pulled pork, beef brisket with a side of slaw. But since when is it spelled with an "i"?
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Post#22 » by Mr MoJo Risin » Sun Oct 6, 2013 1:35 am

DEEP3CL wrote:And again Dwight doesn't get it. When Kareem says "his IQ isn't up to speed for him to be a dominate player", Kareem wasn't talking defensively as Dwight thinks. The mental aspect is critical on both sides of the ball but in Dwight's case he has one side full and the other on less than half tank.

Offensively he doesn't get it, he's still a horrid passer out of double teams. I know what Kareem is getting at too bad Dwight doesn't. And for him to even mention that Kareem only mentioned this is because he left the Lakers is stupid. Saying it was "emotional" was incredibly stupid. When has Kareem ever been emotional about anything ?


I agree. Howard has over reacted once again. Kareem was just giving his assessment about Howard, and some take it out of context.
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Post#23 » by Zubby » Sun Oct 6, 2013 1:40 am

DEEP3CL wrote:And again Dwight doesn't get it. When Kareem says "his IQ isn't up to speed for him to be a dominate player", Kareem wasn't talking defensively as Dwight thinks. The mental aspect is critical on both sides of the ball but in Dwight's case he has one side full and the other on less than half tank.

Offensively he doesn't get it, he's still a horrid passer out of double teams. I know what Kareem is getting at too bad Dwight doesn't. And for him to even mention that Kareem only mentioned this is because he left the Lakers is stupid. Saying it was "emotional" was incredibly stupid. When has Kareem ever been emotional about anything ?

Kareem said on both ends of the court so yes that includes defense. Then he also said he wouldnt play Dwight at the end of a close game, which is pretty damn silly
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Post#24 » by BballFever1 » Sun Oct 6, 2013 3:20 am

This guy has become such a princess lately. Complaining and whining about ever comment thats being said about him. Maybe focus on basketball and not so much on what others say if you want to win a championship since you take every comment as a personal attack...
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Post#26 » by BlackFalconGSW » Sun Oct 6, 2013 5:25 am

BballFever1 wrote:This guy has become such a princess lately. Complaining and whining about ever comment thats being said about him. Maybe focus on basketball and not so much on what others say if you want to win a championship since you take every comment as a personal attack...
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Post#27 » by brooklynbrawler » Sun Oct 6, 2013 5:38 am

lol no Dwight
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Post#28 » by miltk » Sun Oct 6, 2013 5:54 am

it would have been hilarious if d12 had said "i'm an intelligenter basketball players"
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Post#29 » by BallerTalk » Sun Oct 6, 2013 7:34 am

Howard spoke the truth and showed some restraint by taking the high road.

Kareem appears to be bitter that Dwight rejected his assistance, ignoring the fact that Howard was already working with a superior tutor. That becomes apparent with his narcissistic praise of Noah for seeking him out.

The most obvious and laughable part is when he suggests Howard doesn't know how to help his team win and offers up Marc Gasol as a preferable alternative.
Here's the truth; In the five years they have been in the league together:
Marc Gasol's teams are 207-187 with one appearance in the conference finals.
Dwight Howard's teams are 252-142 with two appearances in the conference finals and one trip to the NBA Finals (and that includes the disastrous season in LA).

So on what is Kareem basing his conclusion? He certainly can't argue that Howard has had a better supporting cast. Nor can he say that Gasol was more central to Memphis' success than was Howard in Orlando.

I know piling on Howard is popular at the moment, especially among the LA contingent, but under scrutiny much of Kareem's criticisms ring hollow.
Moreover, it seems Kareem is just as petty and vindictive as has been rumored all these years.
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Post#30 » by SC Grizz » Sun Oct 6, 2013 1:56 pm

BallerTalk wrote:Howard spoke the truth and showed some restraint by taking the high road.

Kareem appears to be bitter that Dwight rejected his assistance, ignoring the fact that Howard was already working with a superior tutor. That becomes apparent with his narcissistic praise of Noah for seeking him out.

The most obvious and laughable part is when he suggests Howard doesn't know how to help his team win and offers up Marc Gasol as a preferable alternative.
Here's the truth; In the five years they have been in the league together:
Marc Gasol's teams are 207-187 with one appearance in the conference finals.
Dwight Howard's teams are 252-142 with two appearances in the conference finals and one trip to the NBA Finals (and that includes the disastrous season in LA).

So on what is Kareem basing his conclusion? He certainly can't argue that Howard has had a better supporting cast. Nor can he say that Gasol was more central to Memphis' success than was Howard in Orlando.

I know piling on Howard is popular at the moment, especially among the LA contingent, but under scrutiny much of Kareem's criticisms ring hollow.
Moreover, it seems Kareem is just as petty and vindictive as has been rumored all these years.


As a Grizzlies fan this post is borderline insane.

You think Marc Gasol was/is not more central to his team's success than Dwight Howard? Go look at any advanced statistics in existence to be proven wrong.

How many NBA All-Stars has Dwight Howard played with versus how many Memphis has had ALL TIME?

Memphis - three all-stars EVER. Pau Gasol (not there at the same time as Marc), Z-bo twice (w/ Marc there and some would argue because of Marc), and Marc Gasol once

Dwight Howard - Steve Nash, Kobe Bryant, Metta World Peace/Ron Artest, Jameer Nelson and Rashard Lewis (2009)

Yep Marc Gasol has had it super easy with Mike Conley, Zach Randolph, and Rudy Gay.

If any player can't suck it up to play with the greatest player in their generation (Kobe) then they are the one with the problem.
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Post#31 » by jshow34 » Sun Oct 6, 2013 2:32 pm

Those that think he is an intelligent player, can you name one area he's improved his game in since he was in the Finals with the Magic?

I can't
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Post#32 » by captlopez0012 » Sun Oct 6, 2013 2:34 pm

BallerTalk wrote:Howard spoke the truth and showed some restraint by taking the high road.

Kareem appears to be bitter that Dwight rejected his assistance, ignoring the fact that Howard was already working with a superior tutor. That becomes apparent with his narcissistic praise of Noah for seeking him out.

The most obvious and laughable part is when he suggests Howard doesn't know how to help his team win and offers up Marc Gasol as a preferable alternative.
Here's the truth; In the five years they have been in the league together:
Marc Gasol's teams are 207-187 with one appearance in the conference finals.
Dwight Howard's teams are 252-142 with two appearances in the conference finals and one trip to the NBA Finals (and that includes the disastrous season in LA).

So on what is Kareem basing his conclusion? He certainly can't argue that Howard has had a better supporting cast. Nor can he say that Gasol was more central to Memphis' success than was Howard in Orlando.

I know piling on Howard is popular at the moment, especially among the LA contingent, but under scrutiny much of Kareem's criticisms ring hollow.
Moreover, it seems Kareem is just as petty and vindictive as has been rumored all these years.


you sir, obviously have a giant man crush on dwight howard. youre quick to attack anybody who doesnt praise him as a god. but i noticed you asked me to give you facts on why d12 wasnt an offensive player on that last post but never responded when i did. i know you saw it. you troll d12s posts like its your job. quit trying to use stats or whatever suits you to paint dwight in the best light. dwight howard is the best center in the league purely based on his defense. but the gap is much narrower than it was 2 years ago. there are a few guys right on his tail and another down year and we may have to dethrone d12 as "best center in the game". and maybe you missed orlandos run to the finals, but it wasnt all howard. dwight played well but hedo turkoglu was the best player on the magic for that run. rashard lewis was lights out as well. and rafer alston played great up until they pulled him for jameer in the finals. this was the epitome of a "team run" to the finals. those magic teams were definitely more loaded than any grizzlies team of recent memory. and keep in mind, the magic play in the east. grizzlies play in the west. thall skews the w-l percentage. and that magic team doesnt sniff the finals in the west. as for running his mouth about kareem, dwight doesnt have the cache to be dissing any all time greats. he is universally regarded as a problem child and needs to work on repairing his image.
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Post#33 » by NamelessHero » Sun Oct 6, 2013 3:50 pm

Howard will be MVP this season...mark my words...
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Post#34 » by Heatin4 » Sun Oct 6, 2013 3:56 pm

jshow34 wrote:Those that think he is an intelligent player, can you name one area he's improved his game in since he was in the Finals with the Magic?

I can't

His outside the NBA Shawn Kemp game took off recently.
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Post#35 » by mjd58 » Sun Oct 6, 2013 4:15 pm

Wydmuch wrote:Not a Miami Heat fan, but... sorry Dwight, nope, Miami will dominate this year, probably next, and maybe after that (if LeBron stays). THEN...MAYBE...but NOT LIKELY...you'll get a shot, but...meeeeh. With your 'cartoon-network' mentality, you won't be able to do jack.

MEH, thats all I have to say.


Umm, I understand the reason for Abdul-Jabars criticism, but I'm not sure he said it in the right way.

Dwights problem is an IMMENSE lack of maturity. He acts like a buble-head; he hasn't yet learned how to tap into the competitive reserves that made Abdul-Jabbar a great player.

To go off tangent for a second: Jabbar and Howard are completely opposite personalities. Jabbar is quiet, reserved, and more analytical, while Howard is talkative, jokey, playful. Is Howards lack of on-court dominance, his complete failure last year to mesh with the Lakers, a result of this flippant deportment? This is what I think Jabbar was criticizing.

It's ok to be funny and goofy. But Howard does it so much more than other players; its as if he's trying to compensate, to show people how funny, goofy and out there his personality is. Sooner or later, hopefully sooner, he will realize he needs to tone this part of himself down if he is to access the type of maturity and gamefulness that players like Kobe Bryant and Lebron James better epitomize.
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Post#36 » by BlackFalconGSW » Sun Oct 6, 2013 4:23 pm

BallerTalk wrote:Howard spoke the truth and showed some restraint by taking the high road.

Kareem appears to be bitter that Dwight rejected his assistance, ignoring the fact that Howard was already working with a superior tutor. That becomes apparent with his narcissistic praise of Noah for seeking him out.

The most obvious and laughable part is when he suggests Howard doesn't know how to help his team win and offers up Marc Gasol as a preferable alternative.
Here's the truth; In the five years they have been in the league together:
Marc Gasol's teams are 207-187 with one appearance in the conference finals.
Dwight Howard's teams are 252-142 with two appearances in the conference finals and one trip to the NBA Finals (and that includes the disastrous season in LA).

So on what is Kareem basing his conclusion? He certainly can't argue that Howard has had a better supporting cast. Nor can he say that Gasol was more central to Memphis' success than was Howard in Orlando.

I know piling on Howard is popular at the moment, especially among the LA contingent, but under scrutiny much of Kareem's criticisms ring hollow.
Moreover, it seems Kareem is just as petty and vindictve as has been rumored all these years.


lol, so first 4 years of dwight doesn't count? Awful logic.. Marc has been in this league only 5 years, while dwight - 9.
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Post#37 » by BallerTalk » Sun Oct 6, 2013 5:28 pm

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BallerTalk wrote:Howard spoke the truth and showed some restraint by taking the high road.

Kareem appears to be bitter that Dwight rejected his assistance, ignoring the fact that Howard was already working with a superior tutor. That becomes apparent with his narcissistic praise of Noah for seeking him out.

The most obvious and laughable part is when he suggests Howard doesn't know how to help his team win and offers up Marc Gasol as a preferable alternative.
Here's the truth; In the five years they have been in the league together:
Marc Gasol's teams are 207-187 with one appearance in the conference finals.
Dwight Howard's teams are 252-142 with two appearances in the conference finals and one trip to the NBA Finals (and that includes the disastrous season in LA).

So on what is Kareem basing his conclusion? He certainly can't argue that Howard has had a better supporting cast. Nor can he say that Gasol was more central to Memphis' success than was Howard in Orlando.

I know piling on Howard is popular at the moment, especially among the LA contingent, but under scrutiny much of Kareem's criticisms ring hollow.
Moreover, it seems Kareem is just as petty and vindictve as has been rumored all these years.


lol, so first 4 years of dwight doesn't count? Awful logic.. Marc has been in this league only 5 years, while dwight - 9.


You completely missed the point. You have to take it in the context in which it was given.
Jabbar offered up the comparison and obviously you can only compare the years they've been in the league together to reach the conclusion Jabbar reached.

But even if you want to compare their first 5 years respectively, Howard lead his team to the NBA Finals by year 5 while Marc Gasol has not. Does that not fly in the face of Kareem's statement of Howard not helping his team win?

The numbers simply don't support Jabbar's conclusion.
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Post#38 » by BallerTalk » Sun Oct 6, 2013 5:33 pm

captlopez0012 wrote:you sir, obviously have a giant man crush on dwight howard. youre quick to attack anybody who doesnt praise him as a god. but i noticed you asked me to give you facts on why d12 wasnt an offensive player on that last post but never responded when i did. i know you saw it. you troll d12s posts like its your job. quit trying to use stats or whatever suits you to paint dwight in the best light. dwight howard is the best center in the league purely based on his defense. but the gap is much narrower than it was 2 years ago. there are a few guys right on his tail and another down year and we may have to dethrone d12 as "best center in the game". and maybe you missed orlandos run to the finals, but it wasnt all howard. dwight played well but hedo turkoglu was the best player on the magic for that run. rashard lewis was lights out as well. and rafer alston played great up until they pulled him for jameer in the finals. this was the epitome of a "team run" to the finals. those magic teams were definitely more loaded than any grizzlies team of recent memory. and keep in mind, the magic play in the east. grizzlies play in the west. thall skews the w-l percentage. and that magic team doesnt sniff the finals in the west. as for running his mouth about kareem, dwight doesnt have the cache to be dissing any all time greats. he is universally regarded as a problem child and needs to work on repairing his image.


Sorry but your massive jumble of words and its dreadful lack of punctuation and capitalization make your responses too difficult to read.
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Post#39 » by BallerTalk » Sun Oct 6, 2013 6:05 pm

SC Grizz wrote:As a Grizzlies fan this post is borderline insane.

You think Marc Gasol was/is not more central to his team's success than Dwight Howard? Go look at any advanced statistics in existence to be proven wrong.

How many NBA All-Stars has Dwight Howard played with versus how many Memphis has had ALL TIME?

Memphis - three all-stars EVER. Pau Gasol (not there at the same time as Marc), Z-bo twice (w/ Marc there and some would argue because of Marc), and Marc Gasol once

Dwight Howard - Steve Nash, Kobe Bryant, Metta World Peace/Ron Artest, Jameer Nelson and Rashard Lewis (2009)


Actually, the advanced stats support my statement pretty well. You may want to check your source if you've been told different.

And nice try at the shell game but if you are going to count Steve Nash and Metta World Peace as "All-Stars" Howard has played with (laughable) then you have to count Allen Iverson and Gilbert Arenas for Marc Gasol.
Now that's insane.

For the record, I have no quarrel with Gasol, I'm actually a fan of his game. It's just that when you offer him up in comparison to Howard the way Jabbar did (as a means of detraction) the numbers simply don't support it.
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Post#40 » by inquisitive » Sun Oct 6, 2013 6:10 pm

Kareem needs to realize that no NBA center is going to come begging for his help...if Kareem wants to help someone, then Kareem needs to initiate and follow through on it.
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