Sources: Lakers Express Interest In Iman Shumpert, Tyson Chandler

[DEEP3CL]

Is New York trying to implode?

Trying ?......Hell they've already imploded. The Knicks are 7-16 after 23, at that pace they're looking at maybe 30-32 wins. They're season is effectively over. And the Melo drama will really heat up coming towards the trade deadline.

And now you have the JR and Woodson riff heating up.....trying to imploded, the Knicks are more potent then C4 at this point.

[DEEP3CL]

Why don't the Knicks trade the best assets for 1st round picks? if they get like 3 1st rounders this year they can trade and move into the top ten and get that PG or another great star they need to build around

The only "best asset" the Knicks have is Melo that can garner a #1.

[collado1121]

rookies, This trade helps out both teams.. maybe not skill wise but beyond what we see.

Knicks trying to lure Love in 2015

They offer Both Tyson and Shump to match Gasol's salary.

Lakers need a better presence. but take on the salary. But should be fine to sign another max contract. Shump isnt that bad.. he was obviously a defensive specialist before his injury.

I wouldnt mind Chandler and Shump coming in for Gasol.

Gasol just cant function with D'antoni

[imDatknicksTape]

rookies, This trade helps out both teams.. maybe not skill wise but beyond what we see.

Knicks trying to lure Love in 2015

They offer Both Tyson and Shump to match Gasol's salary.

Lakers need a better presence. but take on the salary. But should be fine to sign another max contract. Shump isnt that bad.. he was obviously a defensive specialist before his injury.

I wouldnt mind Chandler and Shump coming in for Gasol.

Gasol just cant function with D'antoni

If Lakers fans want shump and tyson, Gasol needs to accompanied with either xavier henry, and atleast 1 draft pick. It aint fair for us. Or just do Tyson for Gasol straight up.

[WiggOuts]

That's a bad trade for the Knicks, why would they even consider this. Its seems like every trade offer I hear coming from LA seems be completely one sided....Why are GMs still helping out the Lakers lol

[WiggOuts]

rookies, This trade helps out both teams.. maybe not skill wise but beyond what we see.

Knicks trying to lure Love in 2015

They offer Both Tyson and Shump to match Gasol's salary.

Lakers need a better presence. but take on the salary. But should be fine to sign another max contract. Shump isnt that bad.. he was obviously a defensive specialist before his injury.

I wouldnt mind Chandler and Shump coming in for Gasol.

Gasol just cant function with D'antoni

If Lakers fans want shump and tyson, Gasol needs to accompanied with either xavier henry, and atleast 1 draft pick. It aint fair for us. Or just do Tyson for Gasol straight up.

Tyson for Pau is a terrible deal to...again why would NY do this, Chandler is more valuable to that team than Pau could ever be, the only reason a trade like this works is if NY is trying to tank lol

[Sam195]

The gasol trade rumors are a big hint that the lakers maybe readying themselves to tank the season for a high pick. The lakers front office may change from morons to geniuses if that massive Kobe extension was an excuse to tank cause now Kobe ain't going anywhere and I highly doubt any contender would trade let alone give up assets for his albatross deal. Mike D'antoni is also a perfect lameduck coach that can assist in the losing intiative. As long as Kobe the laker's golden goose is on the roster, the franchise will remain profitable. Kobe is likely going to lose endorsements to durant, lebron, cp3 and others if the lakers stink and don't look like title contenders so it makes sense that the lakers had to overpay him on his contract to make up the difference.

[collado1121]

rookies, This trade helps out both teams.. maybe not skill wise but beyond what we see.

Knicks trying to lure Love in 2015

They offer Both Tyson and Shump to match Gasol's salary.

Lakers need a better presence. but take on the salary. But should be fine to sign another max contract. Shump isnt that bad.. he was obviously a defensive specialist before his injury.

I wouldnt mind Chandler and Shump coming in for Gasol.

Gasol just cant function with D'antoni

If Lakers fans want shump and tyson, Gasol needs to accompanied with either xavier henry, and atleast 1 draft pick. It aint fair for us. Or just do Tyson for Gasol straight up.

Do you not understand trades???? If the Lakers are going to give up a draft pick and X along with Pau, Knicks need to add more then.. it doesnt go by skills.. it goes by salary. Jesus Christ ..

[collado1121]

rookies, This trade helps out both teams.. maybe not skill wise but beyond what we see.

Knicks trying to lure Love in 2015

They offer Both Tyson and Shump to match Gasol's salary.

Lakers need a better presence. but take on the salary. But should be fine to sign another max contract. Shump isnt that bad.. he was obviously a defensive specialist before his injury.

I wouldnt mind Chandler and Shump coming in for Gasol.

Gasol just cant function with D'antoni

If Lakers fans want shump and tyson, Gasol needs to accompanied with either xavier henry, and atleast 1 draft pick. It aint fair for us. Or just do Tyson for Gasol straight up.

Tyson for Pau is a terrible deal to...again why would NY do this, Chandler is more valuable to that team than Pau could ever be, the only reason a trade like this works is if NY is trying to tank lol

Ny would do it only to get rid of Shumpert and Chandler for next year. They might even try to package Amare. It is a terrible deal. Lakers lose what left they have on offense, and Knicks lose whatever they had on defense.

[Mamba Venom]

I don't see how this trade improves either team.

Gasol isnt that good but I do think he is more valuable than Chandler. He is an expiring contract so that adds value.

What is Mike DAntonie going to do w/ a defensove player???

[IkeDoIt]

Chandler AND Shumpert will not be going to the Lakers for Pau Gasol. If anyone will be combined, It will be Shumpert+Stoudemire OR J.R Smith+Chandler for Gasol+X. the Knicks want to dump J.R and Amare, but can only get rid of them by pairing them with Chandler or Shump respectively because of their value.
I personally want to see J.R and Amare traded together so we can keep the core of our defense in tact. Felton should also be on the chopping block as well

[truthiness]

Chandler AND Shumpert will not be going to the Lakers for Pau Gasol. If anyone will be combined, It will be Shumpert+Stoudemire OR J.R Smith+Chandler for Gasol+X. the Knicks want to dump J.R and Amare, but can only get rid of them by pairing them with Chandler or Shump respectively because of their value.
I personally want to see J.R and Amare traded together so we can keep the core of our defense in tact. Felton should also be on the chopping block as well

Knicks fan ?
You must not have paid attention for the past what ? 15 years ?

What is the last good trade the Knicks have made ?
And don't say Melo.
If you say Melo, you were probably paying attention, but just not understanding anything.

[God Squad]

If recent memory holds Knicks got what? 2-3 years of competitive basketball from chandler/Melo? Things are definitely imploding and the wheels are about to fall off.

[rlserenity]

I dont think New York would be interested in the deal. But if they do... while they are New york...

[IkeDoIt]

Chandler AND Shumpert will not be going to the Lakers for Pau Gasol. If anyone will be combined, It will be Shumpert+Stoudemire OR J.R Smith+Chandler for Gasol+X. the Knicks want to dump J.R and Amare, but can only get rid of them by pairing them with Chandler or Shump respectively because of their value.
I personally want to see J.R and Amare traded together so we can keep the core of our defense in tact. Felton should also be on the chopping block as well

Knicks fan ?
You must not have paid attention for the past what ? 15 years ?

What is the last good trade the Knicks have made ?
And don't say Melo.
If you say Melo, you were probably paying attention, but just not understanding anything.

The Knicks gave up FAR too much for Melo, especially when they could've just signed him the in the offseason. The only trades I can think of are the T-Mac debacle, Carmelo, and Chandler's trade from the Mavs. Acquiring Chandler might be the answer to your question.

[booDavidStern]

this is probably fake. Kupchak stalks his prey quietly, not publicly with the media.

[crazymaso]

rookies, This trade helps out both teams.. maybe not skill wise but beyond what we see.

Knicks trying to lure Love in 2015

They offer Both Tyson and Shump to match Gasol's salary.

Lakers need a better presence. but take on the salary. But should be fine to sign another max contract. Shump isnt that bad.. he was obviously a defensive specialist before his injury.

I wouldnt mind Chandler and Shump coming in for Gasol.

Gasol just cant function with D'antoni

What...?

It is impossible for the Lakers to be able to sign a max contract if they take on Shump & Tyson.

[thegreenlife]

I don't see how this trade improves either team.

Gasol isnt that good but I do think he is more valuable than Chandler. He is an expiring contract so that adds value.

What is Mike DAntonie going to do w/ a defensove player???

I don't see how D'Antoni is going to incorporate Chandler into his schemes. Chandler is a defensive specialist and has a VERY LIMITED offensive skill set.

[Treimaging174]

No one is going to take on Amare's contract it is uninsured. The Knicks have to ride that one out. Chandler running the pick in roll with Nash would have worked 5 years ago but now it's just not going to happen. I think D'antoni is pushing for chandler because of that. He is still hanging on to the hope of Nash coming back because Nash is the reason he is still a head coach to begin with.

[moocow007]

This makes no sense for the Knicks...at all...AT ALL.

Unless Kupchak is going to help the Knicks find a taker for Stoudemire and Bargnani in return for no salary commitments for the summer of 2014, this type of nonsense deal would force the Knicks to pretty much have to resign Gasol after this season (when his current contract expires) AND blow any shot at signing someone like Love in the summer of 2015.

Why's that?

The Knicks will be over the cap for next season even if they move Chandler's contract (which expires conveniently after NEXT season). Without any real means beyond the mini-MLE to use to sign new players in the summer of 2014, they aren't going to be able to find anyone remotely in either Chandler or Gasol's class for that. So what this trade will end up doing is to put the Knicks essentially at the mercy of Gasol and his agent...that's assuming that Gasol doesn't bolt outright and leave the Knicks with some combination of Stoudemire/Bargnani to start at C next season.

Should I repeat that last sentence?

Unless Gasol somehow decides to do the Knicks a favor and sign for just one season more at big bucks...and why on earth would he do that (at age 34)?...the Knicks will not only have to give a multi-year deal to a 34 year old coming off 2 declining years BUT also say asta la vista to any chance of signing a REAL 2nd option in the summer of 2015. Gasol...at this point in his career...is NOT the difference maker that would rationally call for the Knicks to scrap the summer of 2015. Nor is he the difference maker in keeping Carmelo Anthony beyond this season (let's be honest here)...especially since he himself could be gone even before Anthony is.

And that's before even talking about the silliness of this trade from a fit issue for the Knicks. To which...the Knicks biggest issue is defense. They would be trading their 2 best defenders for a potential 58 game rental of a 33 year old coming off the worst year of his career last year and in the midst of another poo season? They have no real need for Gasol as an offensive option (Bargnani's having a more efficient season for a team who's offensive flow is even worse than the Lakers have been). His passing? The Knicks work best with small ball...that's apparent under Woodson. They really don't play a system that would maximize Gasol's passing ability. And Chandler rebounds as well as Gasol does but is a better defensive player.

From the Lakers standpoint? Chandler's salary would fit in line with Nash's in terms of when it expires and would set the Lakers up for the summer of 2015 when only Bryant is under contract (no one is taking Nash for an expiring contract this season). It would provide them with a center option for next season or a trade asset (especially if the Knicks also, for some silly reason, include Iman Shumpert). And tanking? With Kobe Bryant on the team, nobodies tanking intentionally.

IF Gasol's contract had 2 years left instead of 1 this may have made more sense for the Knicks. But the expiring contract and, more importantly, the extending part of it, is the same reason why the Lowry trade (Lowry is also expiring) wouldn't make sense. Neither are difference makers enough for the Knicks to scrap the 2015 plan (if they return and resign) and both are risks to bolt and leave the Knicks with nothing for next season and no way to replace it (Knicks aren't tanking next season).