Timberwolves Expect To Execute Kevin Love Deal By Aug. 23-24; Cavs Are Strongest Bet

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Post#21 » by ozwizard8 » Sun Aug 3, 2014 12:10 pm

2thehoopand1 wrote:Love gave up on the wolves who to say he doesn't gave up on the cavs. Especially already being designated as a third option on the team he's not even on yet. His stock fell in my book. If I was GM Lebron I would be looking for a defensive center the young cavs have enough scoring ability and potential on that end. It's their defense they need to sure up. It would also be easier to find a defensive center with a asking price lower then Love's.

they can get roy hibbert.

pacers should go for rebuilding.
their chemistry sucks.
they lose lance and unlucky PG.
PG get back his old level in 2 years. so tanking 1 year+getting some young assets for hibbert-d.west-g.hill would be good for them.
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they may get a.drummond for wiggins.
they can get marc gasol for wiggins too.

they got too many assets anyway. they can acquire almost anyone wants to come cavs.
they can offer 2 years 1st pick its really game changer.
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Post#22 » by vdalfmd » Sun Aug 3, 2014 12:20 pm

Even with Love and even assuming that Waiters and Irving are going to be good, I can't see them as a serious contender. They need a rim protector, badly... Without a true center the Cavs next year would be a team full of talent but whose pieces doesn't match imho. But I agree about trading Wiggins for Love, Lebron is there - miracle! - so they have to win now... Best scenario to me is if they can include Dieng in the Love package (by adding Waiters or another first-rounder?) but everyone seems to be very high on Dion except me so I think it isn't possible. Anyway, I hope that my Sixers will get Bennett and a first-rounder from this situation.. Thad MUST play for a playoff team and Bennett can be coached and developed in a useful scoring combo forward from the bench.
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Post#23 » by dballislife » Sun Aug 3, 2014 1:37 pm

well its made it on realgm, so u know this aint true
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Post#24 » by lakersin4 » Sun Aug 3, 2014 4:13 pm

ozwizard8 wrote:
2thehoopand1 wrote:Love gave up on the wolves who to say he doesn't gave up on the cavs. Especially already being designated as a third option on the team he's not even on yet. His stock fell in my book. If I was GM Lebron I would be looking for a defensive center the young cavs have enough scoring ability and potential on that end. It's their defense they need to sure up. It would also be easier to find a defensive center with a asking price lower then Love's.

they can get roy hibbert.

pacers should go for rebuilding.
their chemistry sucks.
they lose lance and unlucky PG.
PG get back his old level in 2 years. so tanking 1 year+getting some young assets for hibbert-d.west-g.hill would be good for them.
**

they may get a.drummond for wiggins.
they can get marc gasol for wiggins too.

they got too many assets anyway. they can acquire almost anyone wants to come cavs.
they can offer 2 years 1st pick its really game changer.

They really should go after Hibbert since they'd have to give up alot less for him, maybe just a package around Bennett.. He'll have a great season with Lebron & Kyrie. If Love still wants to come there above everywhere else he can force his way there in a S&T next summer. Unless Hibbert disappears he fits better.
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Post#25 » by olive_triangurl » Sun Aug 3, 2014 4:14 pm

with Love the Cavs are going to have a soft middle......so i don't think they will win a ring.
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Post#26 » by Arsilva » Sun Aug 3, 2014 5:58 pm

vdalfmd wrote:Even with Love and even assuming that Waiters and Irving are going to be good, I can't see them as a serious contender. They need a rim protector, badly... Without a true center the Cavs next year would be a team full of talent but whose pieces doesn't match imho. But I agree about trading Wiggins for Love, Lebron is there - miracle! - so they have to win now... Best scenario to me is if they can include Dieng in the Love package (by adding Waiters or another first-rounder?) but everyone seems to be very high on Dion except me so I think it isn't possible. Anyway, I hope that my Sixers will get Bennett and a first-rounder from this situation.. Thad MUST play for a playoff team and Bennett can be coached and developed in a useful scoring combo forward from the bench.


Waiters won't have enough touches playing alongside the new big 3. Many teams needs desesparetly someone with his skills.....Pacers and Memphis are solid teams who could send back a good center, like Mahinin or Koufos. Even, in a broader deal, Roy or Gasol. Also, the Barners-Waiters swap seems to be always on the table.
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Post#27 » by foo_oo00 » Sun Aug 3, 2014 8:22 pm

vdalfmd wrote:Even with Love and even assuming that Waiters and Irving are going to be good, I can't see them as a serious contender. They need a rim protector, badly... Without a true center the Cavs next year would be a team full of talent but whose pieces doesn't match imho. But I agree about trading Wiggins for Love, Lebron is there - miracle! - so they have to win now... Best scenario to me is if they can include Dieng in the Love package (by adding Waiters or another first-rounder?) but everyone seems to be very high on Dion except me so I think it isn't possible. Anyway, I hope that my Sixers will get Bennett and a first-rounder from this situation.. Thad MUST play for a playoff team and Bennett can be coached and developed in a useful scoring combo forward from the bench.


I don't buy it. The Heat just made it to the finals 4 straight times without a legit rim protector. I don't see this situation being any different.
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Post#28 » by 2thehoopand1 » Sun Aug 3, 2014 8:47 pm

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vdalfmd wrote:Even with Love and even assuming that Waiters and Irving are going to be good, I can't see them as a serious contender. They need a rim protector, badly... Without a true center the Cavs next year would be a team full of talent but whose pieces doesn't match imho. But I agree about trading Wiggins for Love, Lebron is there - miracle! - so they have to win now... Best scenario to me is if they can include Dieng in the Love package (by adding Waiters or another first-rounder?) but everyone seems to be very high on Dion except me so I think it isn't possible. Anyway, I hope that my Sixers will get Bennett and a first-rounder from this situation.. Thad MUST play for a playoff team and Bennett can be coached and developed in a useful scoring combo forward from the bench.


I don't buy it. The Heat just made it to the finals 4 straight times without a legit rim protector. I don't see this situation being any different.


That was with two top five players and one top 15 player at the same time. Love is a top ten offensive talent and Irving is around there as well but defenses are left to be desire. Miami as a whole were diligent on defense because of the whole inside. Not to mention LBJ is turning 30 now he can't make up for other players defensive mistakes all the time.
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Post#29 » by jsmithj88 » Mon Aug 4, 2014 5:03 am

Arsilva wrote:
vdalfmd wrote:Even with Love and even assuming that Waiters and Irving are going to be good, I can't see them as a serious contender. They need a rim protector, badly... Without a true center the Cavs next year would be a team full of talent but whose pieces doesn't match imho. But I agree about trading Wiggins for Love, Lebron is there - miracle! - so they have to win now... Best scenario to me is if they can include Dieng in the Love package (by adding Waiters or another first-rounder?) but everyone seems to be very high on Dion except me so I think it isn't possible. Anyway, I hope that my Sixers will get Bennett and a first-rounder from this situation.. Thad MUST play for a playoff team and Bennett can be coached and developed in a useful scoring combo forward from the bench.


Waiters won't have enough touches playing alongside the new big 3. Many teams needs desesparetly someone with his skills.....Pacers and Memphis are solid teams who could send back a good center, like Mahinin or Koufos. Even, in a broader deal, Roy or Gasol. Also, the Barners-Waiters swap seems to be always on the table.


u dont necessarily need a rim protector to win these days
miami showed u that the last 4 years
yes, wade WAS a top 10 player when they first united
hes definately slid out that elite status and the heat still made it to the finals every year
do the cavs have issues on defense, sure, they just need to outscore people more often than not
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Post#30 » by vdalfmd » Mon Aug 4, 2014 7:47 am

foo_oo00 wrote:
vdalfmd wrote:Even with Love and even assuming that Waiters and Irving are going to be good, I can't see them as a serious contender. They need a rim protector, badly... Without a true center the Cavs next year would be a team full of talent but whose pieces doesn't match imho. But I agree about trading Wiggins for Love, Lebron is there - miracle! - so they have to win now... Best scenario to me is if they can include Dieng in the Love package (by adding Waiters or another first-rounder?) but everyone seems to be very high on Dion except me so I think it isn't possible. Anyway, I hope that my Sixers will get Bennett and a first-rounder from this situation.. Thad MUST play for a playoff team and Bennett can be coached and developed in a useful scoring combo forward from the bench.


I don't buy it. The Heat just made it to the finals 4 straight times without a legit rim protector. I don't see this situation being any different.


True, but Miami had another lockdown defender aside Lebron (Wade) and Bosh is way better than Love defensively. Even complementary players like Chalmers etc were good defenders and Spoelstra came out from that lack of rim protection building a new defensive system only to fix that problem.
I'm not sayin' that it's impossible nowadays playing without a real center, there aren't so many bigs that are REALLY big... But Blatt will have to figure out something similar (Spoelstra was a master when he thought out that new system), I'm just looking at the lineup at the moment.
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Post#31 » by jsmithj88 » Mon Aug 4, 2014 8:50 am

vdalfmd wrote:
foo_oo00 wrote:
vdalfmd wrote:Even with Love and even assuming that Waiters and Irving are going to be good, I can't see them as a serious contender. They need a rim protector, badly... Without a true center the Cavs next year would be a team full of talent but whose pieces doesn't match imho. But I agree about trading Wiggins for Love, Lebron is there - miracle! - so they have to win now... Best scenario to me is if they can include Dieng in the Love package (by adding Waiters or another first-rounder?) but everyone seems to be very high on Dion except me so I think it isn't possible. Anyway, I hope that my Sixers will get Bennett and a first-rounder from this situation.. Thad MUST play for a playoff team and Bennett can be coached and developed in a useful scoring combo forward from the bench.


I don't buy it. The Heat just made it to the finals 4 straight times without a legit rim protector. I don't see this situation being any different.


True, but Miami had another lockdown defender aside Lebron (Wade) and Bosh is way better than Love defensively. Even complementary players like Chalmers etc were good defenders and Spoelstra came out from that lack of rim protection building a new defensive system only to fix that problem.
I'm not sayin' that it's impossible nowadays playing without a real center, there aren't so many bigs that are REALLY big... But Blatt will have to figure out something similar (Spoelstra was a master when he thought out that new system), I'm just looking at the lineup at the moment.


not much of a "lock down" defender when u cant stay healthy
bosh did the best he could, but he was typically outmatched by bigger guys
he was consistantly outrebounded by almost everybody he guarded
u can at least say love will pickup the slack rebounding wise and on the offensive end
waiters and irving just need to improve on their defense
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Post#32 » by olive_triangurl » Mon Aug 4, 2014 4:24 pm

foo_oo00 wrote:
vdalfmd wrote:Even with Love and even assuming that Waiters and Irving are going to be good, I can't see them as a serious contender. They need a rim protector, badly... Without a true center the Cavs next year would be a team full of talent but whose pieces doesn't match imho. But I agree about trading Wiggins for Love, Lebron is there - miracle! - so they have to win now... Best scenario to me is if they can include Dieng in the Love package (by adding Waiters or another first-rounder?) but everyone seems to be very high on Dion except me so I think it isn't possible. Anyway, I hope that my Sixers will get Bennett and a first-rounder from this situation.. Thad MUST play for a playoff team and Bennett can be coached and developed in a useful scoring combo forward from the bench.


I don't buy it. The Heat just made it to the finals 4 straight times without a legit rim protector. I don't see this situation being any different.


and Heat probably would have struggled vs a few of the Western teams, not just the Mavs and Spurs.
so winning the East isn't that big.
its like when the Nets won the East.
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Post#33 » by MiltownHawkeye » Mon Aug 4, 2014 6:28 pm

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The heat were guaranteed another finals appearance. this cavs team isn't even guaranteed to beat the bulls. They never even played together before. So what is the obvious you are talking about. Lechoke really. HOw about kobe who choked for 13 seasons out of 18 with a stacked them in 17 of them



I disagree because love is a much better scorer and 3pt shooter then bosh and they made bosh a jump shooter. love will still put up 20 ppg. its impossible for him not to be a scoring machine. that's what he does. he the best pf in the game. sure his defense isn't up to par but when u playing with LeBron it doesn't matter. and kyrie is not sloutch at all. another 20 ppg scorer but he will sacrifice the most out of the three. his scoring is going to take a hit. its clearly brons and loves team now. then u add in tristian Thompson, waiters, varejeo. they already have what Miami never had now and that's a good center. and a very good pg. all those shooters they have for LeBron to attack and kick to is unfair. whatever they lack on defense the offense will make it up. I see a upgraded team and LeBron does to which is his reason for leaving Miami for Cleveland. another plot he set up weeks ago knowing love would jump over. I don't like LeBron and his inability to prove hes great without a superteam. I don't know why he gets called the best player in the game when he needs 2 20 point scorers near him at all times just to help him look good and then changes there style to fit his. that's weak for a player his caliber. if he wins 5 rings he cant take much credit as going down as a great player like kobe and mj. if the nba is going to allow this to happen then make sure there is at least 5 or 6 superteams to compete with them. it sucks all the fun out of basketball when u have to create a damn near allstar team and compete against regular teams with barely one superstar

it was obivous for lebron.
nba created that heat project.
after that now we'll see: "return of the king" drama...

CAVS got 3 1st picks in last 4 years. it wasnt luck. thats imposibble. they rewarded by nba.
lebron always get best squads in the league. he has a referee protection too. if you touch him in layup its more likely to get a foul. he dont need to dribble the ball. no steps for him..

k.love; young big men who can shoot 3 and rebounds 12+ per game. he's top 10 player in the league.
kyrie irving. probably top 3 pg in the league. LAST ALL STAR MVP. much more clutch then lebron.
you got these and some other young fellas like d.waiters etc. you'll get veterans like r.allen etc.

this kind of roster can win the title without lebron. i dont respect him when he wins with so much help. so much franchise players in a team doesnt get respect for him.

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