Suns Open To Trading No. 6 For Veteran Point Guard

capwolf · Post #21 » by **capwolf** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:59 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:Jrue Holiday for the 6th pick and some more. Who says no?

Who the heck you gonna get at #6 better than Jrue Holiday? You trippin.

vincecarter4pres · Post #22 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 4:12 pm

Spencer Dinwiddie?

Jabroni Lames · Post #23 » by **Jabroni Lames** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 4:23 pm

Lowry would be the smartest move because he's a veteran who can teach the young players how to get to the playoffs, and he's only on the books for 1 year. Suns should try to squeeze our another asset (like Powell) and dump salary. Or, they could take a look at VanVleet who has been killing it in the playoffs, since his wife had a baby. lol.

MikeTheKid · Post #24 » by **MikeTheKid** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 4:24 pm

SlowPaced wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
SlowPaced wrote:
They're actually one of the few teams that could feasibly trade for John Wall's albatross contract. They have the cap space for it. Not a bad fit next to Devin Booker either.

#6 pick + Josh Jackson might get it done.

John Wall's poor health and huge contract make him virtually untradeable. He has the worst contract in the league right now. The Suns should never (and hopefully would never) include the 6th pick in such a deal, they should actually be looking for assets in return from the Wizards to take on that contract with their cap space.

There are more likely targets here, Conley being at the top of the list. Teague and Rubio would be cheaper options who shouldn't cost #6. The Raps aren't going to deal Lowry until after the Kawhi free-agency situation is handled so that timeline doesn't fit with the draft.

I wouldn't do it either, but I think it's a possibility. I'd rather keep the #6 pick or try to move up during the draft to get Darius Garland.

Conley is too old for their core imo. Rubio is a pretty good candidate though, good fit next to Booker.

Honestly it might be a good trade, especially with the reputation Phoenix medical staff has, if its still the same medical staff.

The_Hater · Post #25 » by **The_Hater** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 4:34 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:Jrue Holiday for the 6th pick and some more. Who says no?

Good thought actually. This is a possibility.

At the draft, the Pels likely say no. They still want to convince AD to stay and even if they deal him they might want to hit the ground running with Zion, Jrue and whatever the AD gets them. IMO, the #6 is weaker in this draft than most others.

NO-KG-AI · Post #26 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 4:58 pm

The_Hater wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:Jrue Holiday for the 6th pick and some more. Who says no?

Good thought actually. This is a possibility.

At the draft, the Pels likely say no. They still want to convince AD to stay and even if they deal him they might want to hit the ground running with Zion, Jrue and whatever the AD gets them. IMO, the #6 is weaker in this draft than most others.

If I move AD, I'm moving Jrue for all the youth and pieces I can. Jrue is nice, but I think he's not quite as good as the rep he gets lately, and he's still an injury worry. I think his value is the highest it'll ever be right now. This team has a ton of holes, if we can enter this draft with the 1st, 3rd, and 6th pick, plus a lot of young pieces, we have a lot of chances of striking gold.

The_Hater · Post #27 » by **The_Hater** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 5:01 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:Jrue Holiday for the 6th pick and some more. Who says no?

Good thought actually. This is a possibility.

At the draft, the Pels likely say no. They still want to convince AD to stay and even if they deal him they might want to hit the ground running with Zion, Jrue and whatever the AD gets them. IMO, the #6 is weaker in this draft than most others.

If I move AD, I'm moving Jrue for all the youth and pieces I can. Jrue is nice, but I think he's not quite as good as the rep he gets lately, and he's still an injury worry. I think his value is the highest it'll ever be right now. This team has a ton of holes, if we can enter this draft with the 1st, 3rd, and 6th pick, plus a lot of young pieces, we have a lot of chances of striking gold.

Makes sense to me. But just based on what Griffin has said about both Jrue and the importance of having veterans to support young talent, he may not do that. Basically for the same reason the Suns have finally figured out they need some stable vets.

personanongrata · Post #28 » by **personanongrata** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 5:39 pm

I can't think of a veteran point guard worth the 6th pick. Wall, Conley and Paul are either old or injured, their teams would gladly unload them for next to nothing just to get the contract off the books. Jrue Holliday? I can't think of anyone else.

The Laker Kid · Post #29 » by **The Laker Kid** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 5:43 pm

Send them Rondo

Post #30 » by **chitownsports4ever** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 6:04 pm

Tyler Johnson ,Josh Jackson and the #6 for Chandler Parsons and #2

ChuckChilly · Post #31 » by **ChuckChilly** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 6:56 pm

Just sign Rubio and be done with it

Cassius · Post #32 » by **Cassius** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 7:33 pm

How about Eric Bledsoe? :lol:

Cassius · Post #33 » by **Cassius** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 7:46 pm

The_Hater wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Good thought actually. This is a possibility.

At the draft, the Pels likely say no. They still want to convince AD to stay and even if they deal him they might want to hit the ground running with Zion, Jrue and whatever the AD gets them. IMO, the #6 is weaker in this draft than most others.

If I move AD, I'm moving Jrue for all the youth and pieces I can. Jrue is nice, but I think he's not quite as good as the rep he gets lately, and he's still an injury worry. I think his value is the highest it'll ever be right now. This team has a ton of holes, if we can enter this draft with the 1st, 3rd, and 6th pick, plus a lot of young pieces, we have a lot of chances of striking gold.

Makes sense to me. But just based on what Griffin has said about both Jrue and the importance of having veterans to support young talent, he may not do that. Basically for the same reason the Suns have finally figured out they need some stable vets.

On one hand, from a cap management perspective, I don't think Griffin necessarily wants three franchise pillars getting extensions at the same time.

On the other, having 1, 3 and 6 last year could have got you Trae Young, Luka Doncic, and Wendell Carter.

Cassius · Post #34 » by **Cassius** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 7:56 pm

Jabroni Lames wrote:Lowry would be the smartest move because he's a veteran who can teach the young players how to get to the playoffs, and he's only on the books for 1 year. Suns should try to squeeze our another asset (like Powell) and dump salary. Or, they could take a look at VanVleet who has been killing it in the playoffs, since his wife had a baby. lol.

It's Masai Ujiri, the Raptors haven't lost a trade in years. The way he operates, you probably end up seeing TJ Warren attached to the #6 for Powell and Lowry or some other kind of robbery... That's just the way it's been.

macNcheese3 · Post #35 » by **macNcheese3** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 8:09 pm

Cassius wrote:How about Eric Bledsoe?

Cried himself out of Phx

inquisitive · Post #36 » by **inquisitive** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 8:13 pm

cp3 would be a great mentor to the young suns.

ImOnFire · Post #37 » by **ImOnFire** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 8:26 pm

Suns need Dragic back.

grindtime22 · Post #38 » by **grindtime22** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 8:46 pm

Mike Conley just averaged 21 and 6 on good efficiency and played 70 games. He is a very good player.

People in here are acting like he has a 5 year extension kicking in. The contract is not an albatross at this point. He has 2 years (1+1) and 66 million left on the deal.

He is not in the same category as Chris Paul (3 years, 124 million) and John Wall (4 years, 170 million).

Post #39 » by **Darthlukey** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 8:53 pm

chitownsports4ever wrote:Tyler Johnson ,Josh Jackson and the #6 for Chandler Parsons and #2

The peripheral pieces dont offset the loss of being able to draft Ja

NashtyNas · Post #40 » by **NashtyNas** » Mon Jun 3, 2019 8:57 pm

Darthlukey wrote:
chitownsports4ever wrote:Tyler Johnson ,Josh Jackson and the #6 for Chandler Parsons and #2

The peripheral pieces dont offset the loss of being able to draft Ja

In my humble opinion, Ja Morant is the type of prospect you give up the farm to get much like Zion is viewed in this draft.

I'd offer 6, Warren and our 2021 first (top 3 protected) for #2.

Morant
Booker
Jackson
Chriss
Ayton

I'd expect that team to compete for the playoffs in the next 2 years with the right coaching and veteran leadership from ancillary pieces. Of course, I think Phoenix will end up signing some bad veteran FAs or trade for Lowry or Conley instead.