Knicks Offered Multiple First-Round Picks For OG Anunoby

[TheCage4]

Whether you’re a starter, 6th man, or a bench player in the G-League…no one is going to get traded unless there are multiple first round picks involved

[kuclas]

Nba needs to get rid of all these restrictions on draft picks.

No other major sports organizations have so many restrictions that push first round picks back so far down the road.

I think the max deferred should be 2 years than it becomes unprotected.

[madmaxmedia]

Nba needs to get rid of all these restrictions on draft picks.

No other major sports organizations have so many restrictions that push first round picks back so far down the road.

I think the max deferred should be 2 years than it becomes unprotected.

I don't like them either, but isn't that up to the teams negotiating these trades? It's a reasonable way to reduce the value of outgoing picks to try to equalize a trade.

I do hate it though when these picks get converted to 2nds, what a anticlimactic outcome.

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Nba needs to get rid of all these restrictions on draft picks.

No other major sports organizations have so many restrictions that push first round picks back so far down the road.

I think the max deferred should be 2 years than it becomes unprotected.

This would substantially reduce trading, which the NBPA and most owners don’t want.

Trading picks, with protections, is the lubrication that makes deals happen. It’s NBA trade currency. While few specific players have trade value to every team, a pick fits everyone because the team gets to select the player that may fit. Moreover, this option amity with protections and future picks gives a team a chance to modulate trade value. A team can offer a player whose trade value is pretty defined, or they can offer a pick, which they can make unprotected or top 55 protected. This flexibility allows both buyer and seller to find a price they both agree on.

Your basic point is right about distant picks, and a few decades back, the NBA put in the seven-year-rule to prevent teams from trading picks so far out in the distance. I don’t think a CBA change to shrink it to two years out would gain any traction. Even now, you see today’s teams trading all the way out to that 7 year limit.

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so that leaves two teams they will trade him to? that doesnt make sense. They would probably take barett or robinson and picks for OG. I think people arent realizing how little leverage the raptors have. because of the team friendly deal OG on, the raptors cant offer him a market value extension until he becomes a UFA, this mean the team that trade for him essentially has to roll the dice that they can get him to sign a deal next offseason. This isnt like the brunson situation where he was willing to accept the smaller deal that was available. OG been knowing hes getting 25M per year. Raptors are just as motivated to move him before next season starts as teasms are willing to trade for him.

Knicks would be stupid to give up Rj Barett in an OG trade. And Toronto isn't scared about him leaving because of his contract FVV either. That's why the organization got them both Gillette razor commercial deals in the summer for good faith

Yeah cause shaving will make them stay

The Raptors doesn't even want to trade Anunoby.
It would require to trade Siakam before trading Anunoby, as Anunoby fits the timeline with Barnes.

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Yo he not that good bro !

I guess that is why you are on RealGM instead of being an actual GM...because a lot of teams seem to want him.

Teams that are known for making very questionable decisions lol.

He’s a solid player but multiple first rounders is a lil crazy.

[mtcan]

Yo he not that good bro !

I guess that is why you are on RealGM instead of being an actual GM...because a lot of teams seem to want him.

Teams that are known for making very questionable decisions lol.

He’s a solid player but multiple first rounders is a lil crazy.

I said that about the Jrue Holiday trade but the Bucks are not champions without him. OG is that level of defender and plays a position where being able to defend is hugely important. Multiple firsts is totally reasonable.

[kuclas]

Nba needs to get rid of all these restrictions on draft picks.

No other major sports organizations have so many restrictions that push first round picks back so far down the road.

I think the max deferred should be 2 years than it becomes unprotected.

This would substantially reduce trading, which the NBPA and most owners don’t want.

Trading picks, with protections, is the lubrication that makes deals happen. It’s NBA trade currency. While few specific players have trade value to every team, a pick fits everyone because the team gets to select the player that may fit. Moreover, this option amity with protections and future picks gives a team a chance to modulate trade value. A team can offer a player whose trade value is pretty defined, or they can offer a pick, which they can make unprotected or top 55 protected. This flexibility allows both buyer and seller to find a price they both agree on.

Your basic point is right about distant picks, and a few decades back, the NBA put in the seven-year-rule to prevent teams from trading picks so far out in the distance. I don’t think a CBA change to shrink it to two years out would gain any traction Even now, you see today’s teams trading all the way out to that 7 year limit.

If you have strict limits. It limits chances of tanking once you remove those restrictions.

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I guess that is why you are on RealGM instead of being an actual GM...because a lot of teams seem to want him.

Teams that are known for making very questionable decisions lol.

He’s a solid player but multiple first rounders is a lil crazy.

I said that about the Jrue Holiday trade but the Bucks are not champions without him. OG is that level of defender and plays a position where being able to defend is hugely important. Multiple firsts is totally reasonable.

Jrue Holliday was an established All Star when he was traded. His only issue was staying healthy. I don’t think this is an apples to apples comparison.

[knicks94]

Remember the last time the Knicks became the dumping ground for a player the Raptors no longer wanted? It set a 54 win Knicks team back for nearly 10 years and helped Toronto win a championship eventually.Let OG stay in Canada!

[hippesthippo]

Nba needs to get rid of all these restrictions on draft picks.

No other major sports organizations have so many restrictions that push first round picks back so far down the road.

I think the max deferred should be 2 years than it becomes unprotected.

You call them restrictions, I call them options. They're a tool that gives GM's more options when making a trade. The more options a GM has, the more trades become feasible.

Last year Cam wasn't worth a FRP, but he still had more value than a 2nd round pick so what was the solution? Make it top 20 protected. Just one of many examples of a trade that wouldn't have happened otherwise last year were it not for pick protections.

It has to be mentioned that there are also downsides. It limits a teams potential to trade future picks thanks to not knowing when the pick will be conveyed in combination with the Stepien Rule.

[kuclas]

Nba needs to get rid of all these restrictions on draft picks.

No other major sports organizations have so many restrictions that push first round picks back so far down the road.

I think the max deferred should be 2 years than it becomes unprotected.

You call them restrictions, I call them options. They're a tool that gives GM's more options when making a trade. The more options a GM has, the more trades become feasible.

Last year Cam wasn't worth a FRP, but he still had more value than a 2nd round pick so what was the solution? Make it top 20 protected. Just one of many examples of a trade that wouldn't have happened otherwise last year were it not for pick protections.

It has to be mentioned that there are also downsides. It limits a teams potential to trade future picks thanks to not knowing when the pick will be conveyed in combination with the Stepien Rule.

Another solution is to just let high school players graduates straight into nba again. That would blow the lid out of the draft protections of say top 20 protected. Teams wouldn’t be able to do that knowing a high school kid with potential would be worth a shot with a late round top 21-30 slot.

Like I said. Teams who need to let of a heavily protected draft pick (says lakers in 2015/2016/2017) who owed sixers top 5 Protected draft pick (2015, top 3 protected in 2016/2017) kept tanking and keeping those picks year after year. Magically when that same pick became unprotected in 2017-2018 the Lakers actually starting trying to win games and pick became way less valuable.

Teams owing other teams protected picks know this. It encourages tanking. To keep their picks.

So nba executives league administrations are pretty hypocritical when they say they want to discourage tanking when draft protections is another layer to incentivize teams who owe protected picks to keep losing games.

[mtcan]

Teams that are known for making very questionable decisions lol.

He’s a solid player but multiple first rounders is a lil crazy.

I said that about the Jrue Holiday trade but the Bucks are not champions without him. OG is that level of defender and plays a position where being able to defend is hugely important. Multiple firsts is totally reasonable.

Jrue Holliday was an established All Star when he was traded. His only issue was staying healthy. I don’t think this is an apples to apples comparison.

Totally applies. Holiday was an all-star ONCE and it many many years ago by the time he got traded from New Orleans so that hardly matters at the time of the trade. OG is probably frontrunner for DPOY. And OG has the size to guard the Tatums, Hardens, Lebrons etc. and that is very much in demand. He is the perfect 3+D.

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I said that about the Jrue Holiday trade but the Bucks are not champions without him. OG is that level of defender and plays a position where being able to defend is hugely important. Multiple firsts is totally reasonable.

Jrue Holliday was an established All Star when he was traded. His only issue was staying healthy. I don’t think this is an apples to apples comparison.

Totally applies. Holiday was an all-star ONCE and it many many years ago by the time he got traded from New Orleans so that hardly matters at the time of the trade. OG is probably frontrunner for DPOY. And OG has the size to guard the Tatums, Hardens, Lebrons etc. and that is very much in demand. He is the perfect 3+D.

OG has never even been top 3 in voting for DPOY in his life. He’s not gonna be this year either.

“Probable frontrunner” c’mon that’s disrespectful af, JJJ basically has that award locked up from like a month or two ago already lol

[mtcan]

Jrue Holliday was an established All Star when he was traded. His only issue was staying healthy. I don’t think this is an apples to apples comparison.

Totally applies. Holiday was an all-star ONCE and it many many years ago by the time he got traded from New Orleans so that hardly matters at the time of the trade. OG is probably frontrunner for DPOY. And OG has the size to guard the Tatums, Hardens, Lebrons etc. and that is very much in demand. He is the perfect 3+D.

OG has never even been top 3 in voting for DPOY in his life. He’s not gonna be this year either.

“Probable frontrunner” c’mon that’s disrespectful af, JJJ basically has that award locked up from like a month or two ago already lol

We shall see.

OG has always been a good defender...people who actually watch basketball know this.

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Totally applies. Holiday was an all-star ONCE and it many many years ago by the time he got traded from New Orleans so that hardly matters at the time of the trade. OG is probably frontrunner for DPOY. And OG has the size to guard the Tatums, Hardens, Lebrons etc. and that is very much in demand. He is the perfect 3+D.

OG has never even been top 3 in voting for DPOY in his life. He’s not gonna be this year either.

“Probable frontrunner” c’mon that’s disrespectful af, JJJ basically has that award locked up from like a month or two ago already lol

We shall see.

OG has always been a good defender...people who actually watch basketball know this.

Nobody said he’s not a good defender. You can be a good defender and still never be DPOY. Mattise Thybulle, PJ Tucker, Nicolas Batum, Jae Crowder, etc are all very good defenders too and yet none of them will ever win DPOY in their lifetime.

[mtcan]

OG has never even been top 3 in voting for DPOY in his life. He’s not gonna be this year either.

“Probable frontrunner” c’mon that’s disrespectful af, JJJ basically has that award locked up from like a month or two ago already lol

We shall see.

OG has always been a good defender...people who actually watch basketball know this.

Nobody said he’s not a good defender. You can be a good defender and still never be DPOY. Mattise Thybulle, PJ Tucker, Nicolas Batum, Jae Crowder, etc are all very good defenders too and yet none of them will ever win DPOY in their lifetime.

What sets OG apart from those guys is that he might be a better scorer than those guys. That makes for a perfect 3+D wing. He is closer to Mikal Bridges than Matisse Thybulle.

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We shall see.

OG has always been a good defender...people who actually watch basketball know this.

Nobody said he’s not a good defender. You can be a good defender and still never be DPOY. Mattise Thybulle, PJ Tucker, Nicolas Batum, Jae Crowder, etc are all very good defenders too and yet none of them will ever win DPOY in their lifetime.

What sets OG apart from those guys is that he might be a better scorer than those guys. That makes for a perfect 3+D wing. He is closer to Mikal Bridges than Matisse Thybulle.

But he’s also very injury prone, so I can’t really compare him to Bridges. Bridges entered the NBA after OG and yet has played more games than OG. Games missed between him and Bridges is enormous.