NBA Considering Draft Wheel System To Eliminate Lottery

[KingTdot]

This is garbage. If the NBA really wants every team to be competitive and stop tanking, they should give the last place team the 30th pick and the first place team the 1st pick. That would eliminate tanking and keep every team trying their hardest. It also prevents the draft fixing that currently happens and would happen even more with this proposed deal (spinning a wheel, seriously?).

So you would give miami, okc, spurs, a top pick that would most certainly land them a championship? Don't be stupid. They should give playoff teams 1 chance at the draft outside of the top 10 picks, and the lottery teams have a higher chance, all even, 9 to 15, so there would be no tanking. (Seeds 9-15 will get even amount of chances to win the number 1 pick).

[stepbackjftw]

This is garbage. If the NBA really wants every team to be competitive and stop tanking, they should give the last place team the 30th pick and the first place team the 1st pick. That would eliminate tanking and keep every team trying their hardest. It also prevents the draft fixing that currently happens and would happen even more with this proposed deal (spinning a wheel, seriously?).

So you would give miami, okc, spurs, a top pick that would most certainly land them a championship? Don't be stupid. They should give playoff teams 1 chance at the draft outside of the top 10 picks, and the lottery teams have a higher chance, all even, 9 to 15, so there would be no tanking. (Seeds 9-15 will get even amount of chances to win the number 1 pick).

His post is garbage

[themeccamsg]

This is garbage. If the NBA really wants every team to be competitive and stop tanking, they should give the last place team the 30th pick and the first place team the 1st pick. That would eliminate tanking and keep every team trying their hardest. It also prevents the draft fixing that currently happens and would happen even more with this proposed deal (spinning a wheel, seriously?).

So you would give miami, okc, spurs, a top pick that would most certainly land them a championship? Don't be stupid. They should give playoff teams 1 chance at the draft outside of the top 10 picks, and the lottery teams have a higher chance, all even, 9 to 15, so there would be no tanking. (Seeds 9-15 will get even amount of chances to win the number 1 pick).

That still doesn't solve the problem. It still promotes a team missing the playoffs (even if they are close to it at 9th place) because they have a chance for a top pick, instead of making the playoffs as a low seed and getting swept in the first round. That's exactly what is happening right now.

[LukasBMW]

If the NBA really wants to make things more competitive, they should push for a HARD cap. Currently the big market teams have a huge advantage over the small market teams. Rich owners can also load up their roster and try to buy championships (this isn't as easy to do as it is in MLB, but it still happens).

Players would fight a hard cap like crazy, but it would help even the playing field and give New Orleans, Orlando, Charlotte, etc a better chance against New York, LA, and Chicago.

It would also keep teams from throwing MAX money at good (but not great) players and giving $10 mil a year deals to centers who average 12 points and 10 rebounds a game.

[miltk]

teams are bad because of upper level management. hitting the lottery means a whole lot of nothing.

tanking is overstated based on the fact that it's brought up so often, and nothing more. the pure fact is bad teams are perceived to tank but they are in fact,,,always bad.

[pnxd]

Why not keep the same system and just reduce the probabilities for the bad teams to receive the 1st pick?
In 1993 the odds of the 2 worst teams receiving the 1st pick was 17% and 15%. In 2013 it was 25% and 20%. The NBA created the tanking problem by increasing the odds for the worst teams.

[Indomitable]

Why not keep the same system and just reduce the probabilities for the bad teams to receive the 1st pick?
In 1993 the odds of the 2 worst teams receiving the 1st pick was 17% and 15%. In 2013 it was 25% and 20%. The NBA created the tanking problem by increasing the odds for the worst teams.

I like it.

[themeccamsg]

Why not keep the same system and just reduce the probabilities for the bad teams to receive the 1st pick?
In 1993 the odds of the 2 worst teams receiving the 1st pick was 17% and 15%. In 2013 it was 25% and 20%. The NBA created the tanking problem by increasing the odds for the worst teams.

That still doesn't solve the problem because even though there is no guarantee of winning the first overall pick, it is still more probable to win the worse team you are. Therefore, incentive to tank.

[Grouch86]

Just go with the NFL system with the worst team with the worst record get the #1 pick and if theres a tie with a team with worst record coin flip.

[themeccamsg]

Just go with the NFL system with the worst team with the worst record get the #1 pick and if theres a tie with a team with worst record coin flip.

This promotes tanking even more than the current system.

[dynamicswami]

Why not keep the same system and just reduce the probabilities for the bad teams to receive the 1st pick?
In 1993 the odds of the 2 worst teams receiving the 1st pick was 17% and 15%. In 2013 it was 25% and 20%. The NBA created the tanking problem by increasing the odds for the worst teams.

That still doesn't solve the problem because even though there is no guarantee of winning the first overall pick, it is still more probable to win the worse team you are. Therefore, incentive to tank.

But in the end, you still need to draft very well, regardless how high your pick is. Just ask CLEVELAND that, Chad Ford just stated Anthony Bennett is the worst No. 1 overall pick in the last 20 years. And can we ever forget, Kwame Brown (#1), Greg Oden (#1), Darius Miles (#3), Michael Beasley (#2), Shawn Bradley (#2), Andrea Bargnani (#1), Hasheem Thabeet (#2), Darko Milicic (#2), Adam Morrison (#3), Michael Olowokandi (#1)... and so many more. BUST also exists in the NBA Draft. Come on, look at CLEVELAND, or CHARLOTTE, the last 5 years they drafted high, and look at them now. They STINK.

Tanking is just overstated in the NBA. Bad team lose because they are BAD. Bad GM, Bad team management, Bad at drafting players, Bad at everything. Can't we just accept that? Tanking is becoming an excuse! IMO, the current drafting system is the best possible system.

[Go Magic]

I can see it now.

A draft like 2014? Top 5 picks: LAL, Boston, NYK, Boston, LAL

A draft like 1998? Top 5 picks: Minnesota, Orlando, Sacramento, SA, Memphis

Lets give the NBA all the power to dictate what happens. Just brilliant.

Booo

[AMG]

Give equal chances for the top picks to all teams finishing outside the playoffs. Should severely cut down on tanking. Might also want to go MLB-style and eliminate trading of draft picks.

[Sagittaron]

Even with this system it's impossible to archive parity for all teams in the NBA. The wheel won't make luck or odds disappear (aka winning the lottery) it will just make it based on luck (or negotiating/politics) in terms of the players in each draft. A variation of the lottery is the way to go, not this wheel in my opinion

Let's say the wheel is introduced and the Raptors will have the first pick in 2 years and they know it for sure. They just say to Wiggins, don't declare this year wait so you can play for us we will take care of you money wise afterwards don't worry, he can even go play in Europe for 2 years, get payed, sign endorsements and everything and then go to the Raptors.

And the most important question. Who is going to decide how the picks will go? The league? Lottery again?

I agree with people saying that bad teams are just that bad teams. Look at Milwaukee this year, did they started the season with a tanking mindset? No, they just made terrible decisions and along with injuries got screwed. Look at New York and Brooklyn and on the contrary look at Phoenix, everyone thought that they were tanking and now they are something like 6th seed in a strong western conference

[pnxd]

Why not keep the same system and just reduce the probabilities for the bad teams to receive the 1st pick?
In 1993 the odds of the 2 worst teams receiving the 1st pick was 17% and 15%. In 2013 it was 25% and 20%. The NBA created the tanking problem by increasing the odds for the worst teams.

That still doesn't solve the problem because even though there is no guarantee of winning the first overall pick, it is still more probable to win the worse team you are. Therefore, incentive to tank.

Sure it does. I highly doubt a team would tank in order to improve their odds from 11% to 17% when going from the 5th worst team to the worst team (using 1993 odds again). But it seems much more likely when their odds improve from 9% to 25% (using 2013 odds).

There has to be some benefit for the bad teams, as the draft is one way the league tries to improve parity. But in my opinion, with the uncertainty of securing a top pick, the advantages of tanking do not outweigh the disadvantages (ie loss of revenues/attendance).

[WiggOuts]

I like how they choose to ignore the fact that a lot of these teams "tanking" dont have the luxury of being able to just sign these stars in FA. Most of them are bad because they sorely lack talent. The problem starts at the top. Do you really think this many teams would have easily said f' it and go for that draft pick this year if they even had a remote chance to compete. How is any team in the league going to be able to compete with the likes of 3 superstars on one team. Create some sort of parity in the league and youll see a change. I bet if CLE kept Lebron and TO kept Bosh those two teams would at least be competing for playoff spots and thats two out of the lottery already. No matter what these players are always going to flock to one of two places. Either a nice climate, a la MIA, or a team with stars...a la MIA lol. Pay attention to the teams that are bottom feeding, they arent exactly hot spot destinations for stars. No matter what you do The Raps will always play in Canada, CLE will always be boring as hell and MIL will always be a ghost town. Maybe they need to get rid of the damn lottery and create a panel/team that evaluates and strategically places the rookies in cities that deserve/need them.


I like the 1 MAX guy per team thing. This will force your GMs to actually do a real job of creating a team instead of these storied franchises getting ANYONE and EVERYONE they want. When every decision made is with making money in mind you cant seriously expect all these other things to just magically fall into place

[IWishIWasHarden]

From lotto to Wheel Of Fortune..

ha.

If only you could trust teams eh

[ponder719]

Why not keep the same system and just reduce the probabilities for the bad teams to receive the 1st pick?
In 1993 the odds of the 2 worst teams receiving the 1st pick was 17% and 15%. In 2013 it was 25% and 20%. The NBA created the tanking problem by increasing the odds for the worst teams.

Honestly, the best solution, IMO, is to stop relying on the previous season's record only. Lottery odds should be determined by the past three seasons' record, with the most recent season weighted most heavily, the next most recent weighted a bit less, and the third most recent weighted least. This way, teams that tanked for one year but had great success previously won't see an immediate bump for their one season's worth of failure, while the teams that genuinely do need the help and have a historical record of that need will have a legitimate boost to their odds.

Either way, the wheel is dumb as ****.

[parson]

The NBA favors superstars, to the point of shameless foul calls to help them out. That means that the ONLY thing that matters is getting a superstar. Having a good team doesn't matter; good professional play doesn't matter; smart players don't matter.

All that matters is having the best superstar in the game.

Once upon a time, 2-3 teams tanked for a top pick. Now 15-20 consider tanking because of the lottery. No matter what system the NBA goes to, teams will throw games to acquire superstars. If they change to a wheel, maybe teams will throw seasons by trading their best players for draft picks.

If the NBA wants teams to stop tanking, they need to give them hope that it will be worth it to try to win.

[parson]

Seriously, they should just go back to the territorial draft, where teams can have the players, at least for 1 round, from their surrounding area.