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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#41 » by Jordans_Rose » Tue May 28, 2019 8:27 pm

Magic may come off as a sweet, funny man but I do believe behind closed doors he's a dick. Look at the Buss family, Jeanie had to fight with her brothers in court over money and the franchise when you fight with your family over money, you have to take 3 steps back and think what the hell am I fighting for? Just sell the team, take your profits, divide amongst your siblings and live life comfortably, simple. The Lakers are not that mystique franchise anymore, players didn't sign with the Knicks, why would players sign with the Lakers? Because of the weather? Who cares. Kobe demanded a trade in 2006 to Chicago, Kobe wasn't thinking, oh man, Chicago has brutal winters.
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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#42 » by parson » Tue May 28, 2019 8:31 pm

Yeah, who did Magic think he was, the GM?
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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#43 » by shrink » Tue May 28, 2019 9:27 pm

CycklopsGT wrote:
shrink wrote:
CycklopsGT wrote:. You can't run an organization like this because people will do enough to keep their job instead of what makes the company succeed. There's a BIG gap there. You don't know what they actually are capable of doing, only they do, and they won't show you or help you if they don't actually like you. The gray area where you can't punish but can't tell what's going wrong is where they will get you.

Ridiculous. Magic was not running a Taco Bell.

In a competitive NBA front office, success and improvement is part of the requirement.

Success is rewarded. Mediocrity costs you your job.

“Liking the boss” is not as important as “wanting to personally succeed.”
I said very specifically that if you anger and intimidate your employees, they will switch from wanting to do a good job to deliberately screwing you in all the little areas that you can't keep track of, which kills the organization (ANY organization). You replied with a bunch of cliches that didn't even relate to that.

Stop trying to apply your work at Taco Bell to this situation.

Front office jobs are hard to get, and hard to keep. Nobody is going to jeopardize their current or future dream job because they want to “screw the boss” even more. If you're part of the unsuccessful Lakers front office staff, you can’t afford to be screwing anyone, because it screws your future too.
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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#44 » by GameBredAPBT » Tue May 28, 2019 9:42 pm

Hey, at least he didn't violently choke out a head coach & STILL get to keep his job as the president/GM/whatever of the most globally famous & successful murican sports franchise ever (Hi John Paxson!!)
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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#45 » by beefman » Tue May 28, 2019 9:43 pm

i have no issue with Magic's approach. This team is suffering from "Purple and Yellow" disease and he's trying to get rid of the coasters
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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#46 » by No-more-rings » Tue May 28, 2019 10:26 pm

beefman wrote:i have no issue with Magic's approach. This team is suffering from "Purple and Yellow" disease and he's trying to get rid of the coasters

So how is being a bully and acting unprofessionally the answer? Lol.
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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#47 » by delsol650 » Tue May 28, 2019 10:52 pm

Big picture: certain people want to force the Buss family to sell or at least try to get Jeanie out of the picture.


Winner Winner chicken dinner.... there are so many past players or current players that can get a group of billionaire investors together to purchase the lakers. With a current valuation of 3.7 billion regardless of how rudderless the org looks, lots people salivating at a chance to purchase the Lakers and make money out of it. :lol:

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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#48 » by CycklopsGT » Tue May 28, 2019 11:03 pm

shrink wrote:
CycklopsGT wrote:
shrink wrote:Ridiculous. Magic was not running a Taco Bell.

In a competitive NBA front office, success and improvement is part of the requirement.

Success is rewarded. Mediocrity costs you your job.

“Liking the boss” is not as important as “wanting to personally succeed.”
I said very specifically that if you anger and intimidate your employees, they will switch from wanting to do a good job to deliberately screwing you in all the little areas that you can't keep track of, which kills the organization (ANY organization). You replied with a bunch of cliches that didn't even relate to that.

Stop trying to apply your work at Taco Bell to this situation.

Front office jobs are hard to get, and hard to keep. Nobody is going to jeopardize their current or future dream job because they want to “screw the boss” even more. If you're part of the unsuccessful Lakers front office staff, you can’t afford to be screwing anyone, because it screws your future too.

I'm speaking from experience actually working as an analyst at a multi-billion dollar company. People will do this EVERYWHERE, and as I told you multiple times, they're NOT jeopardizing their position because no one can detect what's going wrong, and it's a way to sabotage the higher-ups more than yourself.
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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#49 » by RoyceDa59 » Tue May 28, 2019 11:09 pm

Anyone who needs to continuously remind people of their importance are NOT great leaders.

Magic was woefully unqualified for the roll of President of Basketball Operations, and was always best served as an outside Advisor/Recruiter/Team Representative.

He's simply not intelligent enough to get into corporate, and you can tell by the way he left the organization that he's still unqualified and completely clueless in this role. I'm so happy for the Lakers that he's finally out.
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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#50 » by rammagen » Tue May 28, 2019 11:58 pm

RoyceDa59 wrote:Anyone who needs to continuously remind people of their importance are NOT great leaders.

Magic was woefully unqualified for the roll of President of Basketball Operations, and was always best served as an outside Advisor/Recruiter/Team Representative.

He's simply not intelligent enough to get into corporate, and you can tell by the way he left the organization that he's still unqualified and completely clueless in this role. I'm so happy for the Lakers that he's finally out.


tell that to the corporations he has ran successfully with his net worth over 600 million I think your comment about intelligence sounds racist whether you meant or not. Never mind his business success make your point invalid
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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#51 » by smittybanton » Wed May 29, 2019 12:14 am

Nothing mentioned was out of the ordinary. Clearly an example of why you should get rid of as many of the old and bring in as many of your own people as possible.
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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#52 » by SirClutchKing » Wed May 29, 2019 12:40 am

rammagen wrote:
RoyceDa59 wrote:Anyone who needs to continuously remind people of their importance are NOT great leaders.

Magic was woefully unqualified for the roll of President of Basketball Operations, and was always best served as an outside Advisor/Recruiter/Team Representative.

He's simply not intelligent enough to get into corporate, and you can tell by the way he left the organization that he's still unqualified and completely clueless in this role. I'm so happy for the Lakers that he's finally out.


tell that to the corporations he has ran successfully with his net worth over 600 million I think your comment about intelligence sounds racist whether you meant or not. Never mind his business success make your point invalid
http://www.upgrademag.com/web/2018/05/04/how-magic-johnson-became-a-successful-businessman/


I don't think it's racist, cmon dude. But I think it's wrong to describe Magic as unintelligent. The guy is very sharp.
He just stepped into a role he wasn't ready for, and I don't think he's the same young, hungry dude he was as a player. Magic has been living the high life for 25 plus years. His life is easy now, so as soon as the going got rough, he was out.
"I wasn't having fun anymore".........what a piss poor exuse
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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#53 » by cheese318 » Wed May 29, 2019 1:06 am

Richfield wrote:Kind of funny to watch people coming around to justifying bad staffer behavior, or claiming its not bad behavior because Magic drove them to it by terrorizing and threatening them.

Apparently the hit job is working.

Basketball gods, please help this Lakers franchise. This is not good for anybody, most of all, the game itself.


Exactly. Two days before the finals and this is the garbage that’s being run amuck. I blame Jeanie Buss. This could have been over when Magic quit. She needed to fire Pelinka. The fact she didn’t and has allowed this toxic mess to continue and spew into the following month is complete ineptitude of bad ownership. I am still waiting for her to say anything. She’s acting like she is afraid hiding in the corner. Do something! Save your franchise. It’s not anyone else’s to be saved. LBJ is a moron for signing up with this franchise and it’s almost feeling like MJ’s days in WAS
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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#54 » by cheese318 » Wed May 29, 2019 1:16 am

rammagen wrote:
RoyceDa59 wrote:Anyone who needs to continuously remind people of their importance are NOT great leaders.

Magic was woefully unqualified for the roll of President of Basketball Operations, and was always best served as an outside Advisor/Recruiter/Team Representative.

He's simply not intelligent enough to get into corporate, and you can tell by the way he left the organization that he's still unqualified and completely clueless in this role. I'm so happy for the Lakers that he's finally out.


tell that to the corporations he has ran successfully with his net worth over 600 million I think your comment about intelligence sounds racist whether you meant or not. Never mind his business success make your point invalid
http://www.upgrademag.com/web/2018/05/04/how-magic-johnson-became-a-successful-businessman/


Yea that was rather stupid. Dude runs a corporation that employs more people than you’d realize
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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#55 » by Richfield » Wed May 29, 2019 2:02 am

Magic may have been ready for the job he agreed to do. No manager is completely mistake free, but as reports show and as was reminded by a poster earlier in this thread, he didn't actually have that power he was told he'd be given. The renege on that promise by Jeannie Buss is why that poster was correct that he can never be fairly or accurately judged for his time there. It's like agreeing to hoop and then told you'd be playing one handed instead of with two. It's going to look pretty bad at times under those conditions, and like you're just a one handed player who turns the ball over constantly. Now it's half time, and the Lakers have fallen behind, and the player is being blamed for losing the lead. He thought he was going to be playing with two hands when he agreed to take the position, and now people are judging how he played with one tied behind his back.

The statement that he's "simply not intelligent enough to get into corporate.." with the overwhelming evidence from Magic pointing in the exact opposite direction, makes it difficult to attribute that statement to possibilities other than racial bias. "Sounds" and "Whether you meant it or not" is a civilized way to point out the observation, and I'm not sure how you can defend that statement with ""cmon dude" and then disagree with describing Magic as unintelligent. Can you explain where they might be coming from with that statement? Throughout this thread, with some there seems to be a lack of respect and acknowledgement for the position Magic held there, and additionally for all of his success in the corporate world. Backstabbing is being justified by the fact that he wasn't nice enough, and let people know they're expected to perform. As if he were the staffers' equal, or less. I encourage anybody reading this to have a conversation with a black man or a black woman with boss experience, and ask if there were people that had problems treating them as their superior. Just have that conversation if you can. It's a problem out there, whether people want to talk about it or deny it or what have you. It must be considered as a possibility in this case given the circumstances. It seems clear from my point of view that some staffers and posters in here don't respect the position he held, for whatever reason, with race always a possibility. I think if magic was white this wouldn't even be a story. The stack of resumes anecdote is truly alarming, not in regards to Magic, but says a lot about those who worked under him. Upon first read it honestly reminded me of the police officers who justify shooting black men in the back by saying they felt "threatened" and "intimidated" by fill in the blank unthreatening behavior (he had a cell phone, or a hooded sweatshirt, or took a step in my direction, or reached for his license and registration blah blah blah). In this case, he said he has a stack of resumes, as probably a thousand bosses say every day. Now that Magic's called out the FO for backstabbing, what a convenient time to act like a victim of terror and fear. That's why to me this is a sad article about the state of the Lakers front office.
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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#56 » by basketballwacko2 » Wed May 29, 2019 2:21 am

Of course he did. It is exactly what he thought he could do to the Pacers when he tampered with Paul George. It was as he said, "I'm Magic Johnson and we're the lakers who the hell are you?"
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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#57 » by basketballwacko2 » Wed May 29, 2019 2:29 am

shrink wrote:
CycklopsGT wrote:
shrink wrote:Ridiculous. Magic was not running a Taco Bell.

In a competitive NBA front office, success and improvement is part of the requirement.

Success is rewarded. Mediocrity costs you your job.

“Liking the boss” is not as important as “wanting to personally succeed.”
I said very specifically that if you anger and intimidate your employees, they will switch from wanting to do a good job to deliberately screwing you in all the little areas that you can't keep track of, which kills the organization (ANY organization). You replied with a bunch of cliches that didn't even relate to that.

Stop trying to apply your work at Taco Bell to this situation.

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:lol: :lol:

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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#58 » by Cookin Baskets » Wed May 29, 2019 2:34 am

Of course Magic is like this he feels like he is invincible because he is everybody's idol and he feels like he can do anything that he wants. I appreciate the greatest players of all the time but maybe we shouldn't worship them and build statues of them. Then these 'legends" act like gods and just act like ****. Just a thought, we should give props to the real heroes who actually save lives and contribute to things in society we too often take for granted. I think it takes an incredible amount of wisdom too not let the fame get to their head and effect how they are as person.
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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#59 » by cheese318 » Wed May 29, 2019 4:01 am

basketballwacko2 wrote:Of course he did. It is exactly what he thought he could do to the Pacers when he tampered with Paul George. It was as he said, "I'm Magic Johnson and we're the lakers who the hell are you?"


This is so true. And LBJ should have ran away from LAL the minute PG13 signed with OKC
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Re: Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority 

Post#60 » by HEKTOR » Wed May 29, 2019 6:06 am

Fear is stronger than love.

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