Jonathan Isaac Becomes First NBA Player To Stand For Anthem Since Restart

[Shem]

And the Civil Rights movement lead by Martin Luther King was accused of being a communist movement.

People in this country have a habit of labeling anything they don't like as "communism".

I have parents who grew up in China during the cultural revolution (and I was fortunate enough to be born AFTER that debacle). They can tell you what living under REAL communism/Marxism looks like, and that no political or social movement in this country has ever come close to that.

The problem is in America, most don't know their history and how political arguments have been recyled. Like this one.

[clyde21]

https://apnews.com/6baae751e749d24cdf4fb5a35edb07d9

BTW, this reminds me a little bit of what happened with the San Francisco Giants back in 1996. AIDS was a much bigger deal than it is today (it was a death sentence back then, it's a manageable/survivable disease today.....so long as you can afford the drugs).

The SF Giants hosted (and still host to this day) an "Until there's a cure day" for one home game a year to raise money and awareness for AIDS treatment and awareness. All the players would wear red ribbons to commemorate the occasion and I believe there was some on the field ceremonial stuff going on right before the game. Everyone was pretty touched by the ceremony, as even the visiting Atlanta Braves decided to go out onto the field.

Anyways, the Giants had a journeyman level relief pitcher named Mark Dewey who was HEAVILY religious. Like Jonathan Isaac level religious. He chose NOT to participate in any of the festivities, and he chose to wear his ribbon sideways so that it would look like one of those fish symbols for Christianity. Dewey said that he didn't want to participate because, well you know why....

There are certain people involved who believe that homosexual behavior is not a sin. Sin is sin. And some people don’t believe that homosexuality is a sin. The idea to me of a `Safe Sex’ kind of campaign, again, flies directly in the face of Scripture. Things like that.″

Dewey got a lot of grief for this, especially with it being San Francisco. Giants basically made no comment about it. Dewey actually retired at the end of the year at 31. Said he wanted to spend more time with his family and church. Anyways, there are some similarities here, with the common element being religion, at least according to what Isaac was saying.

Not ragging on either guy for their religious beliefs, but it is what it is. Stuff like that is always going to stir up some drama.

if someone believes homosexuality is a sin that's their right to believe it as long as they are not infringing on anyone's rights, not really a controversial thing to me tbh but people will people

[alienpick]

And the Civil Rights movement lead by Martin Luther King was accused of being a communist movement.

People in this country have a habit of labeling anything they don't like as "communism".

I have parents who grew up in China during the cultural revolution (and I was fortunate enough to be born AFTER that debacle). They can tell you what living under REAL communism/Marxism looks like, and that no political or social movement in this country has ever come close to that.

The problem is in America, most don't know their history and how political arguments have been recyled. Like this one.

MLK said he was a Marxist, so that's why they would have assumed he was a communist. BLM founders have said they are Marxists and "trained" Marxists. (Probably because they want to sound cool like MLK.) Marxism is the foundation of most communism. So, the comparisons are fair and not really politically motivated. If someone says they are a student of Nazism or a "trained" Nazi, well... we'd assume they are trying to be a Nazi right?

(disclaimer: I'm not calling MLK a communist. Respect to that man.)

[Shem]

People in this country have a habit of labeling anything they don't like as "communism".

I have parents who grew up in China during the cultural revolution (and I was fortunate enough to be born AFTER that debacle). They can tell you what living under REAL communism/Marxism looks like, and that no political or social movement in this country has ever come close to that.

The problem is in America, most don't know their history and how political arguments have been recyled. Like this one.

MLK said he was a Marxist, so that's why they would have assumed he was a communist. BLM founders have said they are Marxists and "trained" Marxists. (Probably because they want to sound cool like MLK.) Marxism is the foundation of most communism. So, the comparisons are fair and not really politically motivated. If someone says they are a student of Nazism or a "trained" Nazi, well... we'd assume they are trying to be a Nazi right?

(disclaimer: I'm not calling MLK a communist. Respect to that man.)

King NEVER said he was a Marxist. What he said was he was a Democratic Socialist. That's NOT the same thing.

[alienpick]

The problem is in America, most don't know their history and how political arguments have been recyled. Like this one.

MLK said he was a Marxist, so that's why they would have assumed he was a communist. BLM founders have said they are Marxists and "trained" Marxists. (Probably because they want to sound cool like MLK.) Marxism is the foundation of most communism. So, the comparisons are fair and not really politically motivated. If someone says they are a student of Nazism or a "trained" Nazi, well... we'd assume they are trying to be a Nazi right?

(disclaimer: I'm not calling MLK a communist. Respect to that man.)

King NEVER said he was a Marxist. What he said was he was a Democratic Socialist. That's NOT the same thing.

I stand corrected on MLK. Upon closer inspection, where I got my information from actually only inferred he referred himself as a Marxist but had no actual quote of him saying so. Which he never actually did, that I can find.

Yes, democratic socialism is NOT Marxism. I also found a few quotes from MLK denouncing communism, and advocating for a synergy between capitalism and communism; or democratic socialism.