Bronny James Tabbed As Top-10 Pick In Mock 2024 NBA Draft

[jstudabaka]

I feel that easily the worst part of Lebron's legacy is the whole LeGM and politicking aspect. The way he pressured GMs into often dumb draft, trade, or FA moves to appease him and then left them holding the bag is definitely a stain. If he'd just stayed with Miami and let Pat and Spo do their thing, I think he'd definitely have another ring or two and a better overall legacy. And the whole Bronny situation with him looming is just the latest iteration of it. I guess you could argue that, without Lebron, Bronny wouldn't even be a draft consideration, so no harm done -- but I think Lebron's mainly setting him up to be a joke about nepotism by talking so much about playing with his son. Lebron could have at least pretended to stay out of the situation -- teams obviously would have given Bronny a look anyway and likely taken a flyer on him.

Jordan did the same thing, Kobe too… You don’t think the best players have influence on every team? You don’t think Dallas is consulting Luka on their decisions and getting his input? The same could be said for every star player. Westbrook just signed with the clippers, why? Because their star players wanted to play with him. Lebron left every team holding a championship.

I agree that Jordan/Kobe likely tried to exert influence and maybe Lebron actually getting his way is in part due to the "player empowerment" era. But I feel there are stars who "trust the process" and let the front office make the decisions -- Duncan, Dirk, Joker, Giannis, et al.

[jstudabaka]

I feel that easily the worst part of Lebron's legacy is the whole LeGM and politicking aspect. The way he pressured GMs into often dumb draft, trade, or FA moves to appease him and then left them holding the bag is definitely a stain. If he'd just stayed with Miami and let Pat and Spo do their thing, I think he'd definitely have another ring or two and a better overall legacy. And the whole Bronny situation with him looming is just the latest iteration of it. I guess you could argue that, without Lebron, Bronny wouldn't even be a draft consideration, so no harm done -- but I think Lebron's mainly setting him up to be a joke about nepotism by talking so much about playing with his son. Lebron could have at least pretended to stay out of the situation -- teams obviously would have given Bronny a look anyway and likely taken a flyer on him.

Jordan did the same thing, Kobe too… You don’t think the best players have influence on every team? You don’t think Dallas is consulting Luka on their decisions and getting his input? The same could be said for every star player. Westbrook just signed with the clippers, why? Because their star players wanted to play with him. Lebron left every team holding a championship.

I blame the org a lot more than I blame Lebron. IIRC Lebron never went out and publicly demanded a trade in the middle of a contract (or even worse at the beginning of a contract, like some players have.) Everyone who has real weight in the league- owner, player, exec, advertiser, whatever- is going to make it felt at some point- that in itself is not fundamentally bad or wrong.

If you're going to sign Lebron, you do so with both eyes open. Either you're willing to put your foot down when necessary, or you accept all the good and the bad that comes along with signing the guy with most weight in the league because you're guaranteed to sell a lot of season tickets and advertising.

OTOH players who try to engineer their own trades to their desired teams, threaten to sit out, etc. are the ones who are potentially violating their contracts and are problematic for the sport.

I'm not saying it's necessarily unethical for Lebron to try to influence team decisions. But the idea is, if you do, and are wrong, you get some of the stain of the dumb moves on you. So it's like Lebron doesn't get a pass for Russ--because he brought on Russ.

[docholliday99]

Jordan did the same thing, Kobe too… You don’t think the best players have influence on every team? You don’t think Dallas is consulting Luka on their decisions and getting his input? The same could be said for every star player. Westbrook just signed with the clippers, why? Because their star players wanted to play with him. Lebron left every team holding a championship.

I blame the org a lot more than I blame Lebron. IIRC Lebron never went out and publicly demanded a trade in the middle of a contract (or even worse at the beginning of a contract, like some players have.) Everyone who has real weight in the league- owner, player, exec, advertiser, whatever- is going to make it felt at some point- that in itself is not fundamentally bad or wrong.

If you're going to sign Lebron, you do so with both eyes open. Either you're willing to put your foot down when necessary, or you accept all the good and the bad that comes along with signing the guy with most weight in the league because you're guaranteed to sell a lot of season tickets and advertising.

OTOH players who try to engineer their own trades to their desired teams, threaten to sit out, etc. are the ones who are potentially violating their contracts and are problematic for the sport.

I'm not saying it's necessarily unethical for Lebron to try to influence team decisions. But the idea is, if you do, and are wrong, you get some of the stain of the dumb moves on you. So it's like Lebron doesn't get a pass for Russ--because he brought on Russ.

Did he? Or are you just a slave to the hater media? Why do so many take rumors and takes as actual facts? You don't think the FO's all feel pressure to create win now rosters with Lebron on the team? Time is of the essence, never know about injuries, or whatever. Also, Russ was pretty solid on the Rockets, with the Wizards and even on OKC with PG.

[docholliday99]

I feel that easily the worst part of Lebron's legacy is the whole LeGM and politicking aspect. The way he pressured GMs into often dumb draft, trade, or FA moves to appease him and then left them holding the bag is definitely a stain. If he'd just stayed with Miami and let Pat and Spo do their thing, I think he'd definitely have another ring or two and a better overall legacy. And the whole Bronny situation with him looming is just the latest iteration of it. I guess you could argue that, without Lebron, Bronny wouldn't even be a draft consideration, so no harm done -- but I think Lebron's mainly setting him up to be a joke about nepotism by talking so much about playing with his son. Lebron could have at least pretended to stay out of the situation -- teams obviously would have given Bronny a look anyway and likely taken a flyer on him.

Jordan did the same thing, Kobe too… You don’t think the best players have influence on every team? You don’t think Dallas is consulting Luka on their decisions and getting his input? The same could be said for every star player. Westbrook just signed with the clippers, why? Because their star players wanted to play with him. Lebron left every team holding a championship.

I agree that Jordan/Kobe likely tried to exert influence and maybe Lebron actually getting his way is in part due to the "player empowerment" era. But I feel there are stars who "trust the process" and let the front office make the decisions -- Duncan, Dirk, Joker, Giannis, et al.

The only time I heard of MJ trying to influence anything was trying to get JVG fired in NY - then he would have signed there. All rumors though. I think if MJ could have had his way, they Bulls would never have been dismantled.

As for the other players you listed, you don't think they don't have input or have some influence with the front office?

[YourGM99]

Jordan did the same thing, Kobe too… You don’t think the best players have influence on every team? You don’t think Dallas is consulting Luka on their decisions and getting his input? The same could be said for every star player. Westbrook just signed with the clippers, why? Because their star players wanted to play with him. Lebron left every team holding a championship.

I blame the org a lot more than I blame Lebron. IIRC Lebron never went out and publicly demanded a trade in the middle of a contract (or even worse at the beginning of a contract, like some players have.) Everyone who has real weight in the league- owner, player, exec, advertiser, whatever- is going to make it felt at some point- that in itself is not fundamentally bad or wrong.

If you're going to sign Lebron, you do so with both eyes open. Either you're willing to put your foot down when necessary, or you accept all the good and the bad that comes along with signing the guy with most weight in the league because you're guaranteed to sell a lot of season tickets and advertising.

OTOH players who try to engineer their own trades to their desired teams, threaten to sit out, etc. are the ones who are potentially violating their contracts and are problematic for the sport.

I'm not saying it's necessarily unethical for Lebron to try to influence team decisions. But the idea is, if you do, and are wrong, you get some of the stain of the dumb moves on you. So it's like Lebron doesn't get a pass for Russ--because he brought on Russ.

Okay, at the time of the Russ trade what were the lakers options? They (the people really in control (GM/Owner)) had already decided they weren’t going to spend long term money to improve the roster or retain core players from their championship team. Schroder said an extension was never on the table, they balked at trading and extending Kyle Lowry, they didn’t resign Caruso, they didn’t want to give Derozen a third year of guaranteed money, and they were willing to trade three players Trez (who was due for an extension), KCP, and Kuzma (who they had just extended) to get rid of their contracts. So the reported options were Buddy Heild or Westbrook. Which one would you choose? Trade multiple players for buddy Heild or Westbrook? If I’m Lebron I’m saying Westbrook too and this also benefited the GM/owner because they were able to clear out all of that salary after this season because they don’t want to pay luxury and repeater tax long term.

[YourGM99]

Jordan did the same thing, Kobe too… You don’t think the best players have influence on every team? You don’t think Dallas is consulting Luka on their decisions and getting his input? The same could be said for every star player. Westbrook just signed with the clippers, why? Because their star players wanted to play with him. Lebron left every team holding a championship.

I agree that Jordan/Kobe likely tried to exert influence and maybe Lebron actually getting his way is in part due to the "player empowerment" era. But I feel there are stars who "trust the process" and let the front office make the decisions -- Duncan, Dirk, Joker, Giannis, et al.

The only time I heard of MJ trying to influence anything was trying to get JVG fired in NY - then he would have signed there. All rumors though. I think if MJ could have had his way, they Bulls would never have been dismantled.

As for the other players you listed, you don't think they don't have input or have some influence with the front office?

Yeah, he never threatened to retire if the bulls changed coaches or traded Pippen. He never meet up at Krause's house with Krause, Jackson, Pippen, and Rodman to make friends before they traded to get Rodman. He just stayed in the gym 24/7 with his killer instinct and said do whatever you want, I don’t care what players or coaches you bring In because I’m still going to win in this watered down era with expansion teams.

[irish22022]

I agree that Jordan/Kobe likely tried to exert influence and maybe Lebron actually getting his way is in part due to the "player empowerment" era. But I feel there are stars who "trust the process" and let the front office make the decisions -- Duncan, Dirk, Joker, Giannis, et al.

The only time I heard of MJ trying to influence anything was trying to get JVG fired in NY - then he would have signed there. All rumors though. I think if MJ could have had his way, they Bulls would never have been dismantled.

As for the other players you listed, you don't think they don't have input or have some influence with the front office?

Yeah, he never threatened to retire if the bulls changed coaches or traded Pippen. He never meet up at Krause's house with Krause, Jackson, Pippen, and Rodman to make friends before they traded to get Rodman. He just stayed in the gym 24/7 with his killer instinct and said do whatever you want, I don’t care what players or coaches you bring In because I’m still going to win in this watered down era with expansion teams.

Lolololol

Bro Jordan was smoking cigars at halftime and cognac in the locker room after the games. No other player in NBA history has been in the gym more than lebron. Not even close. In a lot of ways this new generation is showing us what happens when you combing extreme athleticism with extreme work ethic. If MJ trained like LeBron instead of gambling his father into a grave he'd have all of the records.

[Darthlukey]

The only time I heard of MJ trying to influence anything was trying to get JVG fired in NY - then he would have signed there. All rumors though. I think if MJ could have had his way, they Bulls would never have been dismantled.

As for the other players you listed, you don't think they don't have input or have some influence with the front office?

Yeah, he never threatened to retire if the bulls changed coaches or traded Pippen. He never meet up at Krause's house with Krause, Jackson, Pippen, and Rodman to make friends before they traded to get Rodman. He just stayed in the gym 24/7 with his killer instinct and said do whatever you want, I don’t care what players or coaches you bring In because I’m still going to win in this watered down era with expansion teams.

Lolololol

Bro Jordan was smoking cigars at halftime and cognac in the locker room after the games. No other player in NBA history has been in the gym more than lebron. Not even close. In a lot of ways this new generation is showing us what happens when you combing extreme athleticism with extreme work ethic. If MJ trained like LeBron instead of gambling his father into a grave he'd have all of the records.

Lebron really does have it all except courage. That's why it's impossible to compare him to most other greats

[deeps6x]

LOL, won't even go top 20. Book it.

[Pennebaker]

Yeah, he never threatened to retire if the bulls changed coaches or traded Pippen. He never meet up at Krause's house with Krause, Jackson, Pippen, and Rodman to make friends before they traded to get Rodman. He just stayed in the gym 24/7 with his killer instinct and said do whatever you want, I don’t care what players or coaches you bring In because I’m still going to win in this watered down era with expansion teams.

Lolololol

Bro Jordan was smoking cigars at halftime and cognac in the locker room after the games. No other player in NBA history has been in the gym more than lebron. Not even close. In a lot of ways this new generation is showing us what happens when you combing extreme athleticism with extreme work ethic. If MJ trained like LeBron instead of gambling his father into a grave he'd have all of the records.

Lebron really does have it all except courage. That's why it's impossible to compare him to most other greats

It was really courageous of MJ to refuse to come back to the NBA unless he played with Scottie Pippen and Phil Jackson.

In 1998 MJ was like, "either we all stay together or I don't play because I'm afraid to lose." The Bulls said, "cya pal! don't let the door hit ya where the lord split ya!"

MJ didn't gather the courage to be like LeBron (in terms of attempting to win in other cities under different circumstances) until he was 38 and went to the Wizards, but then he sucked on the Wizards.

After Miami, LeBron had the courage to bet on himself and went to bad teams full of losers and won two titles when he could've went to a contender and won more easily.

[ItsDanger]

Money talks as they say.

[homecourtloss]

Lolololol

Bro Jordan was smoking cigars at halftime and cognac in the locker room after the games. No other player in NBA history has been in the gym more than lebron. Not even close. In a lot of ways this new generation is showing us what happens when you combing extreme athleticism with extreme work ethic. If MJ trained like LeBron instead of gambling his father into a grave he'd have all of the records.

Lebron really does have it all except courage. That's why it's impossible to compare him to most other greats

It was really courageous of MJ to refuse to come back to the NBA unless he played with Scottie Pippen and Phil Jackson.

In 1998 MJ was like, "either we all stay together or I don't play because I'm afraid to lose." The Bulls said, "cya pal! don't let the door hit ya where the lord split ya!"

MJ didn't gather the courage to be like LeBron (in terms of attempting to win in other cities under different circumstances) until he was 38 and went to the Wizards, but then he sucked on the Wizards.

After Miami, LeBron had the courage to bet on himself and went to bad teams full of losers and won two titles when he could've went to a contender and won more easily.

The heat for LeBron and all things LeBron is unbelievable. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a thread on the wire tap get 50+ comments.

[FreeBoosie]

Lebron really does have it all except courage. That's why it's impossible to compare him to most other greats

It was really courageous of MJ to refuse to come back to the NBA unless he played with Scottie Pippen and Phil Jackson.

In 1998 MJ was like, "either we all stay together or I don't play because I'm afraid to lose." The Bulls said, "cya pal! don't let the door hit ya where the lord split ya!"

MJ didn't gather the courage to be like LeBron (in terms of attempting to win in other cities under different circumstances) until he was 38 and went to the Wizards, but then he sucked on the Wizards.

After Miami, LeBron had the courage to bet on himself and went to bad teams full of losers and won two titles when he could've went to a contender and won more easily.

The heat for LeBron and all things LeBron is unbelievable. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a thread on the wire tap get 50+ comments.

That means u have missed all of the Toronto Raptors articles on realgm because the comment section on those crashes this site lol

[jc23]

Lolololol

Bro Jordan was smoking cigars at halftime and cognac in the locker room after the games. No other player in NBA history has been in the gym more than lebron. Not even close. In a lot of ways this new generation is showing us what happens when you combing extreme athleticism with extreme work ethic. If MJ trained like LeBron instead of gambling his father into a grave he'd have all of the records.

Lebron really does have it all except courage. That's why it's impossible to compare him to most other greats

It was really courageous of MJ to refuse to come back to the NBA unless he played with Scottie Pippen and Phil Jackson.

In 1998 MJ was like, "either we all stay together or I don't play because I'm afraid to lose." The Bulls said, "cya pal! don't let the door hit ya where the lord split ya!"

MJ didn't gather the courage to be like LeBron (in terms of attempting to win in other cities under different circumstances) until he was 38 and went to the Wizards, but then he sucked on the Wizards.

After Miami, LeBron had the courage to bet on himself and went to bad teams full of losers and won two titles when he could've went to a contender and won more easily.

If he had lebrons type of courage he could have easily handpicked his next team and been instant title favorites in 99' (which is exactly what lebron did with miami, cleveland and the lakers).

[jstudabaka]

I blame the org a lot more than I blame Lebron. IIRC Lebron never went out and publicly demanded a trade in the middle of a contract (or even worse at the beginning of a contract, like some players have.) Everyone who has real weight in the league- owner, player, exec, advertiser, whatever- is going to make it felt at some point- that in itself is not fundamentally bad or wrong.

If you're going to sign Lebron, you do so with both eyes open. Either you're willing to put your foot down when necessary, or you accept all the good and the bad that comes along with signing the guy with most weight in the league because you're guaranteed to sell a lot of season tickets and advertising.

OTOH players who try to engineer their own trades to their desired teams, threaten to sit out, etc. are the ones who are potentially violating their contracts and are problematic for the sport.

I'm not saying it's necessarily unethical for Lebron to try to influence team decisions. But the idea is, if you do, and are wrong, you get some of the stain of the dumb moves on you. So it's like Lebron doesn't get a pass for Russ--because he brought on Russ.

Okay, at the time of the Russ trade what were the lakers options? They (the people really in control (GM/Owner)) had already decided they weren’t going to spend long term money to improve the roster or retain core players from their championship team. Schroder said an extension was never on the table, they balked at trading and extending Kyle Lowry, they didn’t resign Caruso, they didn’t want to give Derozen a third year of guaranteed money, and they were willing to trade three players Trez (who was due for an extension), KCP, and Kuzma (who they had just extended) to get rid of their contracts. So the reported options were Buddy Heild or Westbrook. Which one would you choose? Trade multiple players for buddy Heild or Westbrook? If I’m Lebron I’m saying Westbrook too and this also benefited the GM/owner because they were able to clear out all of that salary after this season because they don’t want to pay luxury and repeater tax long term.

I think most reasonably intelligent basketball people would have pointed to Buddy Hield as the better fit and someone who wouldn't cost another draft pick to trade a year-and-a-half later.

[TheCage4]

#49 pick to NYK in this 2024 mock

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/?year-mock=2024

[meekrab]

I doubt it but whatever anything for clicks.

[donemilio21]

Shouldn't the league be trying to transition away from Lebron? He's 38.

no reason to do so. He remains the most popular player in the world. While he is not the best player anymore, at age 38 he is easily a top 15 player, some would argue a top 10 player. He is averaging 30 points per game and has the 2nd highest usage rate in his career, again at age 38. Despite high usage, he remains efficient sitting at #11 at PER rankings. No reason to expect a nose dive in his performance and popularity in 18 months from now.

If lebron was as popular as you say, why don’t the tv ratings reflect that. Remember the 2007 nba finals tv ratings disaster. Lebron only draws huge ratings when he goes up againist curry and yes harden. Lebron by himself isn’t a draw, at least not the draw espn and fs1 would have you believe he is

2007? Not sure why you need to look back 16 years when trying to prove Lebron is not popular ? What other ratings are you comparing?
anyway...
I am going by information widely available online: he has 146M social media followers, almost 3x Currys, 10x of Giannis. He also had the most jersey sales 4 out of last 5 years. Per google trends, he is the most searched NBA player in the world by a very wide margin.
If NBA could have Jordan suit up right now, believe me they would.

[cheese318]

You guys are all butthurt over a ranking..doesn't matter where he's ranked now depends on what he does next year. Dame Dolla, Herro, D Book, etc. none of those guys were in their pre-Mock Draft and they all went lottery..heck majority of the kids in the 2023 pre-mock are now borderline 2nd rounders (the Duke Kids especially) in the current 2023 Mock Draft

Ja Morant wasn’t even ranked in high school and he went #2 overall and is better than everyone in his draft so this quite humorous. They are are acting like this was 5 page article only about Bronnie James. It was a mock draft which journalists do all the time

[cheese318]

Jordan did the same thing, Kobe too… You don’t think the best players have influence on every team? You don’t think Dallas is consulting Luka on their decisions and getting his input? The same could be said for every star player. Westbrook just signed with the clippers, why? Because their star players wanted to play with him. Lebron left every team holding a championship.

I blame the org a lot more than I blame Lebron. IIRC Lebron never went out and publicly demanded a trade in the middle of a contract (or even worse at the beginning of a contract, like some players have.) Everyone who has real weight in the league- owner, player, exec, advertiser, whatever- is going to make it felt at some point- that in itself is not fundamentally bad or wrong.

If you're going to sign Lebron, you do so with both eyes open. Either you're willing to put your foot down when necessary, or you accept all the good and the bad that comes along with signing the guy with most weight in the league because you're guaranteed to sell a lot of season tickets and advertising.

OTOH players who try to engineer their own trades to their desired teams, threaten to sit out, etc. are the ones who are potentially violating their contracts and are problematic for the sport.

I'm not saying it's necessarily unethical for Lebron to try to influence team decisions. But the idea is, if you do, and are wrong, you get some of the stain of the dumb moves on you. So it's like Lebron doesn't get a pass for Russ--because he brought on Russ.

Does KD get a pass for going to GSW instead of winning somewhere else? I feel LBJ really got in his own way to prevent himself from being a 5-6 time champion because he really needed to let management do their job. I believe his first stint with CLE 1.0 was probably why he never trusted his management team. They never got the players he needed to play with when he was younger. They passed on Amare Stoudemire because they didn’t wanna move JJ Hickson in a trade. I mean come come on. That was a no brainer. Instead they were cheap and added Antwan Jamison who was solid but not what Amare was at that point in their careers. CLE 1.0 was awful at drafting. LBJ should have won at least 1 ring in his first stint in CLE but to no avail.

LBJ career could have been so different if MEM gets the #1 pick (Traded to Detroit by Memphis in the Otis Thorpe deal which was only protected if it was the #1 pick). LBJ would have been on a 50 win team with Pau Gasol, Shane Battier, Mike Miller. The biggest piece of the puzzle was they brought in Jerry West to manage that roster. If LBJ had someone like Jerry West building his roster as a rookie who knows how many titles he would have today. Funny part about the trade is the pick was jinxed because Detroit passed on Carmelo Anthony for Darko Milicic after just winning a title over LAL. If they draft Melo coming off the NCAA championship Detroit’s title window would have extended an extras 4-5 years with that roster