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Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:28 pm

The Los Angeles Lakers and Cleveland Cavaliers have discussed a trade involving a swap of Pau Gasol for Andrew Bynum.


No deal is believed to be imminent, but both sides are considering it ahead of the Jan. 7 deadline for when the second half of Bynum's salary for the season becomes guaranteed.


The Lakers could save more than $20 million in salary and luxury taxes by trading for Bynum and then waiving him.


A trade would need to include at least one additional player to make the deal work and perhaps other assets from the Cavaliers.


Sources say the Lakers are reluctant to part with Gasol in any trade without receiving assets of some value in return.

Via Brian Windhorst, Ramona Shelburne/ESPN

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Post#2 » by Quotatious » Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:38 pm

Sweet Home Los Angeles?

Seriously though, both are pretty bad right now. Gasol is just unmotivated and he's gotten old very quickly and Bynum is a wreck of a player with his ailing knees.
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Post#3 » by azncorruptedo17 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:45 pm

Quotatious wrote:Sweet Home Los Angeles?

Seriously though, both are pretty bad right now. Gasol is just unmotivated and he's gotten old very quickly and Bynum is a wreck of a player with his ailing knees.


The Lakers could save more than $20 million in salary and luxury taxes by trading for Bynum and then waiving him.


pretty sure they don't plan on keeping bynum.
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Post#4 » by Xerxes_Tetra » Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:58 pm

If the Lakers really wanted to save money they wouldn't have dropped $48m on Kobe before knowing whether he could put one foot in front of the other consistently. The Lakers front office is a complete mess without Dr. Buss. Now they are proposing to trade Gasol for Bynum after having traded Bynum away for a one year rental of Howard. Then they would waive Bynum. Crazy talk.
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Post#5 » by SteveNizzy » Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:04 pm

Xerxes_Tetra wrote:If the Lakers really wanted to save money they wouldn't have dropped $48m on Kobe before knowing whether he could put one foot in front of the other consistently. The Lakers front office is a complete mess without Dr. Buss. Now they are proposing to trade Gasol for Bynum after having traded Bynum away for a one year rental of Howard. Then they would waive Bynum. Crazy talk.



Lakers were already gonna spend that money on kobe, because well its kobe, lakers franchise player, they did it outta respect at most. Bynum is most likely to be waived, Gasol is a scrub and they are just unloading a contract for the future nothing wrong with this.
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Post#6 » by azncorruptedo17 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:38 pm

Xerxes_Tetra wrote:If the Lakers really wanted to save money they wouldn't have dropped $48m on Kobe before knowing whether he could put one foot in front of the other consistently. The Lakers front office is a complete mess without Dr. Buss. Now they are proposing to trade Gasol for Bynum after having traded Bynum away for a one year rental of Howard. Then they would waive Bynum. Crazy talk.


hmm.. it's all about money... kobe is kobe is kobe. they gave him $48m, but having his name and being that it's the lakers, they'll have that money back in 6 months.

how would the lakers make money without a hall of famer amongst their ranks? they're cashing in right now, putting a team together that's 'fast and exciting' even though they know they won't be close to winning a championship for the next couple of years, it's what helps them stay entertaining to the fans.

in a couple of years, klove will be in a laker jersey, until then... have fun with the run and gun, 3 point shooting team that is the lakers.
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Post#7 » by Rated T By CBRA » Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:48 pm

Lakers and Gasol have been one of the worst mismanaged partnerships considering what hes done there. I hope he leaves and they put all their eggs in one basket (Kobe)...it will give other teams out west greeat opportunity to be relevant and Gasol to get back to winning again.
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Post#8 » by Son of Ra » Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:49 pm

It is just a move to tank and salary dump to be better positioned for the offseason. Nothing else. Watch the Lakers pick high this draft...
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Post#9 » by dkjjr » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:07 pm

azncorruptedo17 wrote:
Xerxes_Tetra wrote:If the Lakers really wanted to save money they wouldn't have dropped $48m on Kobe before knowing whether he could put one foot in front of the other consistently. The Lakers front office is a complete mess without Dr. Buss. Now they are proposing to trade Gasol for Bynum after having traded Bynum away for a one year rental of Howard. Then they would waive Bynum. Crazy talk.


hmm.. it's all about money... kobe is kobe is kobe. they gave him $48m, but having his name and being that it's the lakers, they'll have that money back in 6 months.

how would the lakers make money without a hall of famer amongst their ranks? they're cashing in right now, putting a team together that's 'fast and exciting' even though they know they won't be close to winning a championship for the next couple of years, it's what helps them stay entertaining to the fans.

in a couple of years, klove will be in a laker jersey, until then... have fun with the run and gun, 3 point shooting team that is the lakers.


It's not about them earning their money back, it's about the cap hit that Kobe takes. He took almost half of the salary cap with that deal. Obviously the Lakers are tanking and will have no relevance for the next 3-5 years at least, but you idiotic Laker fans need to realize the real cost of that deal. Nobody is saying Kobe isn't worth the money, everyone is saying he isn't worth the cap hit.
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Post#10 » by sacbaby » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:28 pm

farmar
wiggins
kobe
melo
hill

or

farmar
kobe
wes johnson
melo
embiid

do it mitch! (those teams wont win sht but would be entertaining to watch)
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Post#11 » by inquisitive » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:31 pm

just do it to save money....cut bynum afterwards and look forward to next season with that extra capspace.
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Post#12 » by youblewwit » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:37 pm

sacbaby wrote:farmar
wiggins
kobe
melo
hill

or

farmar
kobe
wes johnson
melo
embiid

do it mitch! (those teams wont win sht but would be entertaining to watch)


Wow, the stupidity on this one is high.
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Post#13 » by sacbaby » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:40 pm

youblewwit wrote:
sacbaby wrote:farmar
wiggins
kobe
melo
hill

or

farmar
kobe
wes johnson
melo
embiid

do it mitch! (those teams wont win sht but would be entertaining to watch)


Wow, the stupidity on this one is high.


really? explain yourself at least. if they trade gasol, they go straight to tank mode and get a high pick. rumors ahve been swirling for months they get melo. did i ever throw out those lineups as certainty? calm down lil man
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Post#14 » by youblewwit » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:53 pm

sacbaby wrote:
youblewwit wrote:
sacbaby wrote:farmar
wiggins
kobe
melo
hill

or

farmar
kobe
wes johnson
melo
embiid

do it mitch! (those teams wont win sht but would be entertaining to watch)


Wow, the stupidity on this one is high.


really? explain yourself at least. if they trade gasol, they go straight to tank mode and get a high pick. rumors ahve been swirling for months they get melo. did i ever throw out those lineups as certainty? calm down lil man


You think by dumping Pau alone, the lakers will drop to a bottom-5 team (to get top-5 prospects Wiggins, Embiid)? Right now there are 9 teams worse than the Lakers. Is there a chance Melo leaves NYK? Yes, but Melo loves his money. There are already reports coming out he wants to be TRADED in order to keep his rights to get his max $22+mil per deal, not so he can leave the 5th year on the table, take a discount, and only get 4.5% raises.
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Post#15 » by dkjjr » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:55 pm

sacbaby wrote:
youblewwit wrote:
sacbaby wrote:farmar
wiggins
kobe
melo
hill

or

farmar
kobe
wes johnson
melo
embiid

do it mitch! (those teams wont win sht but would be entertaining to watch)


Wow, the stupidity on this one is high.


really? explain yourself at least. if they trade gasol, they go straight to tank mode and get a high pick. rumors ahve been swirling for months they get melo. did i ever throw out those lineups as certainty? calm down lil man


He's right. You're really stupid. They won't get Melo AND Wiggins, so that first one is gone. Melo won't and can't play PF, so that second one is gone. Lastly, they have about as good a shot to get Melo as they had to get LeBron in '10.
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Post#16 » by The Watcher » Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:31 pm

dkjjr wrote:
sacbaby wrote:
youblewwit wrote:
Wow, the stupidity on this one is high.


really? explain yourself at least. if they trade gasol, they go straight to tank mode and get a high pick. rumors ahve been swirling for months they get melo. did i ever throw out those lineups as certainty? calm down lil man


He's right. You're really stupid. They won't get Melo AND Wiggins, so that first one is gone. Melo won't and can't play PF, so that second one is gone. Lastly, they have about as good a shot to get Melo as they had to get LeBron in '10.


Agree, your stupidity has been verified by multiple imparial sources. Reasons for your stupidity can be found in the two posts preceding this one.
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Post#17 » by sacbaby » Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:46 pm

The Watcher wrote:
dkjjr wrote:
sacbaby wrote:
really? explain yourself at least. if they trade gasol, they go straight to tank mode and get a high pick. rumors ahve been swirling for months they get melo. did i ever throw out those lineups as certainty? calm down lil man


He's right. You're really stupid. They won't get Melo AND Wiggins, so that first one is gone. Melo won't and can't play PF, so that second one is gone. Lastly, they have about as good a shot to get Melo as they had to get LeBron in '10.


Agree, your stupidity has been verified by multiple imparial sources. Reasons for your stupidity can be found in the two posts preceding this one.


my goodness knicks fans are so sensitive.

just like everybody said lakers fans were stupid to think they could get nash and howard, right? why can't they get melo and wiggins? they are going to suck without pau and kobe. easily going to challenge for worst in the west. they are also missing blake, henry, and farmar is barely healed. kendall marshall could be their starting and only pg if farmar's hamstring acts up again. that little run they had to start the season is looking like fool's gold. Melo has as a better chance of going to LA than any fa destination that isn't nyc. knicks fans act like it would never happen. i don't even think most lakers fans want melo, but you're crazy if u think there isn't a non-zero chance of it happening.

also numbnuts, melo does play PF right now.
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Post#18 » by The Watcher » Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:54 pm

sacbaby wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
dkjjr wrote:
He's right. You're really stupid. They won't get Melo AND Wiggins, so that first one is gone. Melo won't and can't play PF, so that second one is gone. Lastly, they have about as good a shot to get Melo as they had to get LeBron in '10.


Agree, your stupidity has been verified by multiple imparial sources. Reasons for your stupidity can be found in the two posts preceding this one.


my goodness knicks fans are so sensitive.

just like everybody said lakers fans were stupid to think they could get nash and howard, right? why can't they get melo and wiggins? they are going to suck without pau and kobe. easily going to challenge for worst in the west. they are also missing blake, henry, and farmar is barely healed. kendall marshall could be their starting and only pg if farmar's hamstring acts up again. that little run they had to start the season is looking like fool's gold. Melo has as a better chance of going to LA than any fa destination that isn't nyc. knicks fans act like it would never happen. i don't even think most lakers fans want melo, but you're crazy if u think there isn't a non-zero chance of it happening.

also numbnuts, melo does play PF right now.


Ha, more evidence of your dumb-assery. I am not a Knicks fan, in fact I HATE the Knicks.

Your idea is dumb because (as said in a previous post), there are 9 teams that are worse than the Lakers, and those 9 teams ARE purposely tanking. Lakers are not going to out-suck these teams, and Wiggins is going in the top 2 picks for sure. And don't prpose a crazy trade that gets the Lakers a top-5 pick, since none of these 9 other teams is going to trade one, period.

Also Melo wants the money, which would mean sign-and-trade and the Knicks getting something back for him, even if he leaves.

So yeah, you're dumb.
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Post#19 » by sacbaby » Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:16 pm

The Watcher wrote:
sacbaby wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
Agree, your stupidity has been verified by multiple imparial sources. Reasons for your stupidity can be found in the two posts preceding this one.


my goodness knicks fans are so sensitive.

just like everybody said lakers fans were stupid to think they could get nash and howard, right? why can't they get melo and wiggins? they are going to suck without pau and kobe. easily going to challenge for worst in the west. they are also missing blake, henry, and farmar is barely healed. kendall marshall could be their starting and only pg if farmar's hamstring acts up again. that little run they had to start the season is looking like fool's gold. Melo has as a better chance of going to LA than any fa destination that isn't nyc. knicks fans act like it would never happen. i don't even think most lakers fans want melo, but you're crazy if u think there isn't a non-zero chance of it happening.

also numbnuts, melo does play PF right now.


Ha, more evidence of your dumb-assery. I am not a Knicks fan, in fact I HATE the Knicks.

Your idea is dumb because (as said in a previous post), there are 9 teams that are worse than the Lakers, and those 9 teams ARE purposely tanking. Lakers are not going to out-suck these teams, and Wiggins is going in the top 2 picks for sure. And don't prpose a crazy trade that gets the Lakers a top-5 pick, since none of these 9 other teams is going to trade one, period.

Also Melo wants the money, which would mean sign-and-trade and the Knicks getting something back for him, even if he leaves.

So yeah, you're dumb.


you're entitled to your opinion, but the lakers can certainly contend to be one of the worst 8 teams or so if kobe and pau are both gone and if their pg situation remains as depleted as it has. regardless, even if they don't get wiggins, they'd be esctatic with someone like embiid.
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Post#20 » by azncorruptedo17 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:23 pm

dkjjr wrote:
azncorruptedo17 wrote:
Xerxes_Tetra wrote:If the Lakers really wanted to save money they wouldn't have dropped $48m on Kobe before knowing whether he could put one foot in front of the other consistently. The Lakers front office is a complete mess without Dr. Buss. Now they are proposing to trade Gasol for Bynum after having traded Bynum away for a one year rental of Howard. Then they would waive Bynum. Crazy talk.


hmm.. it's all about money... kobe is kobe is kobe. they gave him $48m, but having his name and being that it's the lakers, they'll have that money back in 6 months.

how would the lakers make money without a hall of famer amongst their ranks? they're cashing in right now, putting a team together that's 'fast and exciting' even though they know they won't be close to winning a championship for the next couple of years, it's what helps them stay entertaining to the fans.

in a couple of years, klove will be in a laker jersey, until then... have fun with the run and gun, 3 point shooting team that is the lakers.


It's not about them earning their money back, it's about the cap hit that Kobe takes. He took almost half of the salary cap with that deal. Obviously the Lakers are tanking and will have no relevance for the next 3-5 years at least, but you idiotic Laker fans need to realize the real cost of that deal. Nobody is saying Kobe isn't worth the money, everyone is saying he isn't worth the cap hit.


of course he's not worth the cap hit. but that's not what the organization is thinking. organizational thinking vs fan thinking is completely different. they know they aren't going to win, so instead of going full rebuild mode, keep things as it is cuz money is money. there's no one good coming into FA next season. Klove comes out in 2 years, so until then make money, keep the team exciting.

Who wins here? the lakers organization. fans still pay, they are entertained, and the owners get paid. no one cares about cap hit, they weren't going to sign anyone soon anyway. They're looking 2-3 years ahead, not next year.

If you can't see that, then it's ok. If you think the lakers will win within the next 2 years, then...... lol.
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