Lakers, Cavaliers Making Progress On Bynum, Gasol Trade Talks

[RealGM Wiretap]

The Los Angeles Lakers and Cleveland Cavaliers have made progress on trade talks involving Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.

The Cavaliers want to execute a trade by Sunday so it can be completed ahead of Tuesday's deadline for Bynum's contract for the current season to become fully guaranteed.

The Cavaliers have been in trade talks with other teams, such as a deal for Richard Jefferson with the Utah Jazz.

The Lakers are seeking a young player or a draft pick from the Cavaliers for Gasol.

Via Brian Windhorst, Ramona Shelburne/ESPN

[HolyMage110]

Lakers are tanking. haha

[BLOCK905]

Trade rumors year in year out, huge contract, throw him under the bus repeatedly, seeking young asset or draft pick. lols.

[SteveNizzy]

most logic would be to ship doing waiters

[the_process]

The Lakers want the Cavs to add something... Kupchak needs to lay off that funky stuff.

Jack goes to GS
Speights and Bynum go to LAL
Gasol and Douglas go to CLE

That's about the best deal the Lakers can hope for.

[DEEP3CL]

Trade rumors year in year out, huge contract, throw him under the bus repeatedly, seeking young asset or draft pick. lols.

Get off that crazy BS...nobody has thrown him under the bus. If he hadn't stunk up the joint in the last 3 playoffs maybe he wouldn't be in constant trade talk. Ever though about that or you just fail to realize his recent playoff performances ?

[DEEP3CL]

The Lakers want the Cavs to add something... Kupchak needs to lay off that funky stuff.

Jack goes to GS
Speights and Bynum go to LAL
Gasol and Douglas go to CLE

That's about the best deal the Lakers can hope for.

The Cavs have to add something to make it work, or have you just fail to do the math ?

[the_process]

The Lakers want the Cavs to add something... Kupchak needs to lay off that funky stuff.

Jack goes to GS
Speights and Bynum go to LAL
Gasol and Douglas go to CLE

That's about the best deal the Lakers can hope for.

The Cavs have to add something to make it work, or have you just fail to do the math ?

Do the trade checker yourself and see if it works. Or did you fail to do the math?

[DEEP3CL]

The Lakers want the Cavs to add something... Kupchak needs to lay off that funky stuff.

Jack goes to GS
Speights and Bynum go to LAL
Gasol and Douglas go to CLE

That's about the best deal the Lakers can hope for.

The Cavs have to add something to make it work, or have you just fail to do the math ?

Do the trade checker yourself and see if it works. Or did you fail to do the math?

Ahhh I did do it.....TWICE with several different players. Either way a Bynum/Gasol deal straight up don't work.

[Mamba4Goat]

If I remember right, the Lakers are asking for Delladova along with Bynum or something like that and that's why the trade talks are shaky.

[the_process]

The Cavs have to add something to make it work, or have you just fail to do the math ?

Do the trade checker yourself and see if it works. Or did you fail to do the math?

Ahhh I did do it.....TWICE with several different players. Either way a Bynum/Gasol deal straight up don't work.

Right. Straight up it doesn't. That's why CLE sends Jack to GS who sends Speights to LA and Douglas to CLE.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k8ad74m
The trade I made up works financially.

[airaaron32]

It has gone through.

[DEEP3CL]

Do the trade checker yourself and see if it works. Or did you fail to do the math?

Ahhh I did do it.....TWICE with several different players. Either way a Bynum/Gasol deal straight up don't work.

Right. Straight up it doesn't. That's why CLE sends Jack to GS who sends Speights to LA and Douglas to CLE.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k8ad74m
The trade I made up works financially.

Ok....yeah that way it does work. Actually that's a pretty damn good deal for all teams involved doing it your way.

Only problem is that Speights deal runs into 2014-15, Lakers trying to have as much cap space as possible that summer.

[arasu]

The Lakers want the Cavs to add something... Kupchak needs to lay off that funky stuff.

Jack goes to GS
Speights and Bynum go to LAL
Gasol and Douglas go to CLE

That's about the best deal the Lakers can hope for.

The Lakers would never do that deal. The point of giving up Gasol would be to save money and get an extra asset as well, not to take on an extra guaranteed deal, which actually makes their cap situation worse. Speights would not be an asset for the Lakers. Not only would Speights occupy future cap space, he has less ability and is much less productive this season than Jordan Hill, and Hill can't even get minutes due to his inability to stretch the defense. The Lakers would be more likely to give away Gasol for nothing, than to take on extra future salary for a worthless player (to the Lakers). The Lakers may be better off keeping Pau, if an actual asset is not included. Kupchak is clearly not on "funky stuff" by attempting to gain an asset in return.

[the_process]

It has gone through.

Are you saying the trade is done? Do you have details?

[arasu]

...

Only problem is that Speights deal runs into 2014-15, Lakers trying to have as much cap space as possible that summer.

Try 15-16. He has a $3,815,000 player option, which he probably will take if he doesn't dramatically improve his production before then. That would kill potential cap space for the '15 off-season also.

[the_process]

[quote="arasu"][quote="oyoyer"]The Lakers want the Cavs to add something... Kupchak needs to lay off that funky stuff.

Jack goes to GS
Speights and Bynum go to LAL
Gasol and Douglas go to CLE

That's about the best deal the Lakers can hope for.[/quote]

The Lakers would never do that deal. The point of giving up Gasol would be to save money and get an extra asset as well, not to take on an extra guaranteed deal, which actually makes their cap situation worse. Speights would not be an asset for the Lakers. Not only would Speights occupy future cap space, he has less ability and is much less productive this season than Jordan Hill, and Hill can't even get minutes due to his inability to stretch the defense. The Lakers would be more likely to give away Gasol for nothing, than to take on extra future salary for a worthless player (to the Lakers). The Lakers may be better off keeping Pau, if an actual asset is not included. Kupchak is clearly not on "funky stuff" by attempting to gain an asset in return.[/quote]

Your Lakers should not be getting any additional assets. Gasol is in his 30's and makes 19 mill this year and then expires. Your team should accept the cap savings and like it. Speights can shoot and rebound and only makes 3 mill, he doesn't use up a lot of cap. The days of other teams allowing you to rape them are over. They ended when Stern vetoed that awful Paul trade Kupchak tried to pull.

[arasu]

The Lakers want the Cavs to add something... Kupchak needs to lay off that funky stuff.

Jack goes to GS
Speights and Bynum go to LAL
Gasol and Douglas go to CLE

That's about the best deal the Lakers can hope for.

The Lakers would never do that deal. The point of giving up Gasol would be to save money and get an extra asset as well, not to take on an extra guaranteed deal, which actually makes their cap situation worse. Speights would not be an asset for the Lakers. Not only would Speights occupy future cap space, he has less ability and is much less productive this season than Jordan Hill, and Hill can't even get minutes due to his inability to stretch the defense. The Lakers would be more likely to give away Gasol for nothing, than to take on extra future salary for a worthless player (to the Lakers). The Lakers may be better off keeping Pau, if an actual asset is not included. Kupchak is clearly not on "funky stuff" by attempting to gain an asset in return.

Your Lakers should not be getting any additional assets. Gasol is in his 30's and makes 19 mill this year and then expires. Your team should accept the cap savings and like it. Speights can shoot and rebound and only makes 3 mill, he doesn't use up a lot of cap. The days of other teams allowing you to rape them are over. They ended when Stern vetoed that awful Paul trade Kupchak tried to pull.

They would like to pull off something similar to what Ainge did (robbing the Nets), but like you, I don't see that happening. As I wrote, getting nothing would be better than getting Speights. His shooting from mid-range is mediocre at best. He doesn't shoot threes with any consistency, and shoots below 50% from inside of 8 feet. He is not as good as Hill, so why take on a redundant skill set that is not especially useful to the Lakers anyway. Every dollar counts. There is absolutely zero reason to add that contract. Gasol is an asset BECAUSE his deal expires, from the Lakers point of view, so your reasoning only further proves my point. It seems like you are just annoyed at the Lakers' past success and failing to see the obvious failure of your trade idea. I agree with you that many teams will make doubly sure they aren't fleeced by the Lakers, but your Stern point is just harsh. No team deserves what he did to the Lakers. None.

[airaaron32]

It has gone through.

Are you saying the trade is done? Do you have details?

NVM ESPN LA later said it was a mistake when they said it was true, which is where i got the info from.

[Temuhjan]

This is a hoax. There is no Bynum for Gasol trade forthcoming. Cleveland will be keeping Bynum beyond Jan 7 and then trade him for a bum by Feb 20. You hear this here first!