Heat Turned Down Evan Turner For Haslem Offer From 76ers

[RealGM Wiretap]

The Miami Heat were offered Evan Turner in a trade by the Philadelphia 76ers ahead of the deadline with Udonis Haslem being the only significant piece they would have had to send in return.

The Heat didn't make the trade, at least in part because they didn't like how it would look to deal one of the club's longest tenured players.

The Indiana Pacers, however, traded Danny Granger to the 76ers for Turner.

Haslem has twice given up in excess of $10 million to remain with the Heat.

Via Dan Le Batard/Miami Herald

[dkjjr]

That would have been a terrible trade. Just look at Indy right now. They traded their longest veteran who was keeping the locker room together and now it is spiraling out of control.

[jak_d_ripr]

loooooooool!!!!!! If this is actually true that is hilarious. Maybe this'll teach the pacers that a little loyalty can go a long way.

[Sam195]

This report is old. And the trade was intially reported as haslem and a first rounder (philly's own which the heat owned at the time) for evan turner. Heat rejected the deal and traded philly's pick to boston in a salary dump trade to get rid of joel anthony.

[cs hauser]

Didn't Udonis Haslem turn down big $$$ when he re-signed in 2010? I know there were plenty of teams that offered him the full MLE at 5-year $34M. He instead signed a 5-year $20M deal with Miami. If Haslem was a star player who had tens of millions in earnings, it wouldn't have been suspicious. But he was a low level role player, and for him to accept a contract nearly half the size of his market value... that definitely raised eyebrows.

If Miami illegally promised Haslem benefits under the table, it would explain why they can't trade him (I woudn't be shocked if he was guaranteed a multi-million front office job after retirement). On the other hand, if Udonis Haslem truly is the selfless saint who gave up $14M to be "loyal" then they can't trade him either. Because it would be a d-bag move. Either way, Miami can't trade him.

[Slacktard]

This report is old. And the trade was intially reported as haslem and a first rounder (philly's own which the heat owned at the time) for evan turner. Heat rejected the deal and traded philly's pick to boston in a salary dump trade to get rid of joel anthony.

Yea, and since the Sixers 1st round pick owed is lotto protected just thru next season it's likely to be two 2nd round picks.

So from what Evan Turner ultimately got (1 late 2nd round pick from Indiana) getting two 2nd round picks likely to be in the top half of the 2nd round would have been a better return.

[NBADraft2003]

Didn't Udonis Haslem turn down big $$$ when he re-signed in 2010? I know there were plenty of teams that offered him the full MLE at 5-year $34M. He instead signed a 5-year $20M deal with Miami. If Haslem was a star player who had tens of millions in earnings, it wouldn't have been suspicious. But he was a low level role player, and for him to accept a contract nearly half the size of his market value... that definitely raised eyebrows.

If Miami illegally promised Haslem benefits under the table, it would explain why they can't trade him (I woudn't be shocked if he was guaranteed a multi-million front office job after retirement). On the other hand, if Udonis Haslem truly is the selfless saint who gave up $14M to be "loyal" then they can't trade him either. Because it would be a d-bag move. Either way, Miami can't trade him.

Yep, UD took a pay cut to stay and was offered the full MLE from Dallas and Denver. Haslem wasn't/isn't a low level role player, that man brings so much to a franchise trying to establish a great culture. Miami wouldn't do anything like that, I can see if you used the AK47/Brooklyn/Minnesota situation. Pat Riley has been loyal to him and he's been loyal back, couldn't see us trading UD. The only way UD was leaving in 2010 was if D-Wade wasn't coming back.

[imDatknicksTape]

Didn't Udonis Haslem turn down big $$$ when he re-signed in 2010? I know there were plenty of teams that offered him the full MLE at 5-year $34M. He instead signed a 5-year $20M deal with Miami. If Haslem was a star player who had tens of millions in earnings, it wouldn't have been suspicious. But he was a low level role player, and for him to accept a contract nearly half the size of his market value... that definitely raised eyebrows.

If Miami illegally promised Haslem benefits under the table, it would explain why they can't trade him (I woudn't be shocked if he was guaranteed a multi-million front office job after retirement). On the other hand, if Udonis Haslem truly is the selfless saint who gave up $14M to be "loyal" then they can't trade him either. Because it would be a d-bag move. Either way, Miami can't trade him.

Ill give you three reasons why Haslem stayed.
1. James
2. Bosh
3. Rings

[NBADraft2003]

This report is old. And the trade was intially reported as haslem and a first rounder (philly's own which the heat owned at the time) for evan turner. Heat rejected the deal and traded philly's pick to boston in a salary dump trade to get rid of joel anthony.

It wasn't the Philly pick, it was Miami's own 2014 1st rouder.

[dkjjr]

Didn't Udonis Haslem turn down big $$$ when he re-signed in 2010? I know there were plenty of teams that offered him the full MLE at 5-year $34M. He instead signed a 5-year $20M deal with Miami. If Haslem was a star player who had tens of millions in earnings, it wouldn't have been suspicious. But he was a low level role player, and for him to accept a contract nearly half the size of his market value... that definitely raised eyebrows.

If Miami illegally promised Haslem benefits under the table, it would explain why they can't trade him (I woudn't be shocked if he was guaranteed a multi-million front office job after retirement). On the other hand, if Udonis Haslem truly is the selfless saint who gave up $14M to be "loyal" then they can't trade him either. Because it would be a d-bag move. Either way, Miami can't trade him.

Ill give you three reasons why Haslem stayed.
1. James
2. Bosh
3. Rings

More like
1. Wade
2. Riley
3. Rings

[Knosh]

This report is old. And the trade was intially reported as haslem and a first rounder (philly's own which the heat owned at the time) for evan turner. Heat rejected the deal and traded philly's pick to boston in a salary dump trade to get rid of joel anthony.

It wasn't the Philly pick, it was Miami's own 2014 1st rouder.

Miami would not have been able to trade their own 2014 1st rounder before the deadline due to the Stepien Rule.

[NBADraft2003]

This report is old. And the trade was intially reported as haslem and a first rounder (philly's own which the heat owned at the time) for evan turner. Heat rejected the deal and traded philly's pick to boston in a salary dump trade to get rid of joel anthony.

It wasn't the Philly pick, it was Miami's own 2014 1st rouder.

Miami would not have been able to trade their own 2014 1st rounder before the deadline due to the Stepien Rule.

You're right, I think. I read reports months ago talking about it included Miami's own pick.

[Sam195]

This report is old. And the trade was intially reported as haslem and a first rounder (philly's own which the heat owned at the time) for evan turner. Heat rejected the deal and traded philly's pick to boston in a salary dump trade to get rid of joel anthony.

It wasn't the Philly pick, it was Miami's own 2014 1st rouder.

Miami would not have been able to trade their own 2014 1st rounder before the deadline due to the Stepien Rule.

A high second round pick is actually better in the new cba than a low first rounder. A player selected anywhere in the first round gets 2 years guaranteed on their rookie deal and a decision has to be made on their third year option by the trade deadline. A second round pick on the other hand has a much lower salary less than 1M and usually only the first year of the deal is guaranteed and a team is allowed to negotiate up to three team option years on the contract. This is why players like chandler parsons and lance stephenson are so valuable. Also this is the reason why philly wanted their own pick back not the heat's own low first rounder (which isn't tradeable to begin with because of the stephien rule mentioned above).

[Xerxes_Tetra]

That and Evan Turner is a bad.

[LloydFree]

Although it didn't look like it at the time, Philly really screwed Evan Turner by trading him to the Pacers. Now he has been exposed to the rest of the league as the mediocre player he is. If he would have been allowed to stay and pad his stats, he may have been able to fool someone into giving him a Gerald Henderson type deal.

[Knosh]

It wasn't the Philly pick, it was Miami's own 2014 1st rouder.

Miami would not have been able to trade their own 2014 1st rounder before the deadline due to the Stepien Rule.

A high second round pick is actually better in the new cba than a low first rounder. A player selected anywhere in the first round gets 2 years guaranteed on their rookie deal and a decision has to be made on their third year option by the trade deadline. A second round pick on the other hand has a much lower salary less than 1M and usually only the first year of the deal is guaranteed and a team is allowed to negotiate up to three team option years on the contract. This is why players like chandler parsons and lance stephenson are so valuable. Also this is the reason why philly wanted their own pick back not the heat's own low first rounder (which isn't tradeable to begin with because of the stephien rule mentioned above).

You should tell the NBA teams that. Every time late firsts were traded for early seconds, the team getting the late first had to add value, not the other way around.

Maybe that is because late firsts give you more options to choose from.
Maybe it is because you actually need to use cap space or an exception to give a second rounder more than a two year contract whereas first round picks don't require that.
Or maybe it's because second rounders become unrestricted free agents after their 4th year, while first rounders become restricted free agents.

[Knicks Universe]

Miami is obsessed with old players for some reason. The chance to get a former 2nd overall pick and the Heat say no just because of the "family" atmosphere? LOL. This team is already really old and they will regret not having enough young players on their roster to take over. Beasley and Oden are not enough.

[dkjjr]

Miami is obsessed with old players for some reason. The chance to get a former 2nd overall pick and the Heat say no just because of the "family" atmosphere? LOL. This team is already really old and they will regret not having enough young players on their roster to take over. Beasley and Oden are not enough.

Heat obsessed with old players? Remember when the Knicks had Jason Kidd, Marcus Camby, and were the oldest team in the league? Not to mention the former 2nd overall pick they could have gotten is not worthy of even a top 15 pick and is currently showing his true colors. The same family atmosphere you are mocking has won 2 championships and has gone to 3 straight finals. How is the Knicks "every man for them self" atmosphere working out?

[GimmeDat]

Respect to the Heat org. for this decision.

[jdlee86]

i don't think the heat are obsessed...signing ray allen proved to be the right move. Haslem is defensive minded and in playoffs he also came through in big games last year. Evan Turner would not be an upgrade, simply because he can't really shoot the 3 ball and would not help with spacing.

The knicks last year made such baffling signings that didn't make much sense to me. the fact that prigioni actually had to step in and be a starting pg at certain times this season just further shows their inability of the past 10 years to make their roster contender worthy...maybe jackson will change that.