LaMarcus Aldridge Believed To Have Strongest Interest In Spurs

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LaMarcus Aldridge Believed To Have Strongest Interest In Spurs 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Fri May 1, 2015 5:22 pm

The San Antonio Spurs are near or at the top of LaMarcus Aldridge's free agency list, according to sources.


Aldridge is hitting the open market for the first time in his career and he appears willing to seriously consider leaving the Portland Trail Blazers.


Another possible scenario for Aldridge would be to replace Kevin Love with the Cleveland Cavaliers should he leave in free agency. The Cavaliers would have to manufacture a sign-and-trade for Aldridge.


The New York Knicks, Dallas Mavericks and Los Angeles Lakers also plan on pursuing Aldridge.

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Post#2 » by Rated T By CBRA » Fri May 1, 2015 5:59 pm

Decent replacement for Timmy D after he retires. New age Spurs: Kawahi + Aldridge
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Post#3 » by Airmax3D » Fri May 1, 2015 6:26 pm

I still believe Marc Gasol would be a better fit in Pop's system with his passing skills but I don't see him leaving the Grizzlies unless they beat GS and go all the way.

Aldrige would definitely be a good add to the Spurs and if they can convince Duncan to come off the bench with Diaw, it is gonna be very interesting
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Post#4 » by Slava » Fri May 1, 2015 7:06 pm

Airmax3D wrote:I still believe Marc Gasol would be a better fit in Pop's system with his passing skills but I don't see him leaving the Grizzlies unless they beat GS and go all the way.

Aldrige would definitely be a good add to the Spurs and if they can convince Duncan to come off the bench with Diaw, it is gonna be very interesting


Duncan can perfectly start alongside Aldridge. Moving him to the bench makes no sense when he is still one of the best defensive bigs in the league.
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Post#5 » by pjiggz » Fri May 1, 2015 7:06 pm

Duncan, parker and ginobli are close to done. Spurs need to start re-amping now. If they could land aldrige and Pop plans to stay another 5 years that would be a big win for the organization.
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Post#6 » by luss54321 » Fri May 1, 2015 7:14 pm

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Airmax3D wrote:I still believe Marc Gasol would be a better fit in Pop's system with his passing skills but I don't see him leaving the Grizzlies unless they beat GS and go all the way.

Aldrige would definitely be a good add to the Spurs and if they can convince Duncan to come off the bench with Diaw, it is gonna be very interesting


Duncan can perfectly start alongside Aldridge. Moving him to the bench makes no sense when he is still one of the best defensive bigs in the league.


Moving a 39 year old player to the bench makes no sense? In what world?

Tim Duncan is absolutely NOT one of the best defensive bigs. He can barely run up and down the court and he's slow as hell getting across the lane, playing help defense, running the court in transition defense, and stepping out of the paint to contest jump shots.

He is good at standing next to the rim and blocking shots. He's one injury away from retirement
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Post#7 » by Sam195 » Fri May 1, 2015 7:58 pm

Airmax3D wrote:I still believe Marc Gasol would be a better fit in Pop's system with his passing skills but I don't see him leaving the Grizzlies unless they beat GS and go all the way.

Aldrige would definitely be a good add to the Spurs and if they can convince Duncan to come off the bench with Diaw, it is gonna be very interesting


Splitter would likely go to the bench or even potentially be traded. Duncan likely slides to center and Aldridge plays power forward with kawhi and dany green on the wings and parker at the point. A formula that would make spurs title favorites. Duncan looks like he's got at least another solid two years left before he goes over the hill physically after this season. Duncan should paly 21 seasons to match his jersey # lol. Ginoblli and Diaw on the bench would be lethal.
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Post#8 » by Sam195 » Fri May 1, 2015 8:04 pm

Rated T By CBRA wrote:Decent replacement for Timmy D after he retires. New age Spurs: Kawahi + Aldridge


Who said he is replacing duncan, pretty sure aldridge wants to play with him if for the short term if he's leaving portland and more guaranteed cash. And you forgot that Tony Parker is just 32. If Parker is healthy - he makes his own case for being one of the top point guards in the game and will be part of a big 3 with Aldridge and Leonard. Age difference between Parker and Aldridge is similar to lebron and wade.
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Post#9 » by MRxBLACK » Fri May 1, 2015 11:26 pm

LaMarcus is going to cash in after his 33% shooting playoff run.
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Post#10 » by thinktellectual » Sat May 2, 2015 1:28 am

Spurs have 21 million committed for next season WITH Splitter's 8+ mil included.

Kawhi will eat up 15 mil or so (don't know exactly what the max is, but he'll get it).
That's 36 out of 67 ? 70 ?

Give Aldridge the max, and if Gasol wants to play for them, offer him the max and get the Grizzlies to do an S&T for Splitter's decent deal.

I think there's a way for them to sign Aldridge as a FA without renouncing all of their FAs, so they can afterwards still do a trade for Gasol and resign Parker and Green. Duncan would probably accept a lot less salary and play a backup role.

And if you can't keep Parker, screw it.
PGs are a dime a dozen these days.

You roll with Kawhi, Gasol and Aldridge and some back-up PGs and sign a PG in 2016 when the cap jumps and they'd suddenly have cap space again.
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Post#11 » by the_process » Sat May 2, 2015 2:56 am

thinktellectual wrote:Spurs have 21 million committed for next season WITH Splitter's 8+ mil included.

Kawhi will eat up 15 mil or so (don't know exactly what the max is, but he'll get it).
That's 36 out of 67 ? 70 ?

Give Aldridge the max, and if Gasol wants to play for them, offer him the max and get the Grizzlies to do an S&T for Splitter's decent deal.

I think there's a way for them to sign Aldridge as a FA without renouncing all of their FAs, so they can afterwards still do a trade for Gasol and resign Parker and Green. Duncan would probably accept a lot less salary and play a backup role.

And if you can't keep Parker, screw it.
PGs are a dime a dozen these days.

You roll with Kawhi, Gasol and Aldridge and some back-up PGs and sign a PG in 2016 when the cap jumps and they'd suddenly have cap space again.

Ummmm... The Spurs already inked Parker to a nice big extension. Enjoy that, Spurs fans. Legacy contracts don't often turn out well.

EDIT: The Spurs have 34m in committed contracts (Parker, Splitter, Diaw, Mills, Anderson), and even if the cap does go to 70m you still to have add in all their cap holds and draft picks. I imagine right now just between Duncan, Ginobli, and Leonard's holds they are already at or over the cap.
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Post#12 » by Pickled Prunes » Sat May 2, 2015 4:00 am

oyoyer wrote:
thinktellectual wrote:Spurs have 21 million committed for next season WITH Splitter's 8+ mil included.

Kawhi will eat up 15 mil or so (don't know exactly what the max is, but he'll get it).
That's 36 out of 67 ? 70 ?

Give Aldridge the max, and if Gasol wants to play for them, offer him the max and get the Grizzlies to do an S&T for Splitter's decent deal.

I think there's a way for them to sign Aldridge as a FA without renouncing all of their FAs, so they can afterwards still do a trade for Gasol and resign Parker and Green. Duncan would probably accept a lot less salary and play a backup role.

And if you can't keep Parker, screw it.
PGs are a dime a dozen these days.

You roll with Kawhi, Gasol and Aldridge and some back-up PGs and sign a PG in 2016 when the cap jumps and they'd suddenly have cap space again.

Ummmm... The Spurs already inked Parker to a nice big extension. Enjoy that, Spurs fans. Legacy contracts don't often turn out well.

EDIT: The Spurs have 34m in committed contracts (Parker, Splitter, Diaw, Mills, Anderson), and even if the cap does go to 70m you still to have add in all their cap holds and draft picks. I imagine right now just between Duncan, Ginobli, and Leonard's holds they are already at or over the cap.

Not to mention that Duncan is still better on one leg than LA is on two... Why would Duncan be backing him up? One of them would need to concede starting at center, which both have historically been resistant to do. I think San Antonio is unlikely unless Duncan retires and Pop doesn't. That is a big "if".
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Post#13 » by the_process » Sat May 2, 2015 4:23 am

oyoyer wrote:
thinktellectual wrote:Spurs have 21 million committed for next season WITH Splitter's 8+ mil included.

Kawhi will eat up 15 mil or so (don't know exactly what the max is, but he'll get it).
That's 36 out of 67 ? 70 ?

Give Aldridge the max, and if Gasol wants to play for them, offer him the max and get the Grizzlies to do an S&T for Splitter's decent deal.

I think there's a way for them to sign Aldridge as a FA without renouncing all of their FAs, so they can afterwards still do a trade for Gasol and resign Parker and Green. Duncan would probably accept a lot less salary and play a backup role.

And if you can't keep Parker, screw it.
PGs are a dime a dozen these days.

You roll with Kawhi, Gasol and Aldridge and some back-up PGs and sign a PG in 2016 when the cap jumps and they'd suddenly have cap space again.

Ummmm... The Spurs already inked Parker to a nice big extension. Enjoy that, Spurs fans. Legacy contracts don't often turn out well.

EDIT: The Spurs have 34m in committed contracts (Parker, Splitter, Diaw, Mills, Anderson), and even if the cap does go to 70m you still to have add in all their cap holds and draft picks. I imagine right now just between Duncan, Ginobli, and Leonard's holds they are already at or over the cap.


Yep, just went and found the cap holds... Get ready for this...

Tim Duncan PF $15,542,169
Manu Ginobili SG $10,500,000
Danny Green SG $7,647,500
Kawhi Leonard SF $4,045,894
Marco Belinelli SG $3,735,875
Cory Joseph PG $3,034,091
Aron Baynes PF $2,596,250
Jeff Ayres PF $2,377,375
Matt Bonner PF $947,276

That equals a fine sum of $50,426,430 (via Spotrac). That puts them at a tidy cap number of over 84m PLUS their 1st round pick. So, sorry to say, no cap room unless BOTH of Duncan and Ginobli retire. Also note this doesn't factor in the huge raise Leonard is getting.
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Post#14 » by thinktellectual » Sun May 3, 2015 1:20 am

oyoyer wrote:
oyoyer wrote:
thinktellectual wrote:Spurs have 21 million committed for next season WITH Splitter's 8+ mil included.

Kawhi will eat up 15 mil or so (don't know exactly what the max is, but he'll get it).
That's 36 out of 67 ? 70 ?

Give Aldridge the max, and if Gasol wants to play for them, offer him the max and get the Grizzlies to do an S&T for Splitter's decent deal.

I think there's a way for them to sign Aldridge as a FA without renouncing all of their FAs, so they can afterwards still do a trade for Gasol and resign Parker and Green. Duncan would probably accept a lot less salary and play a backup role.

And if you can't keep Parker, screw it.
PGs are a dime a dozen these days.

You roll with Kawhi, Gasol and Aldridge and some back-up PGs and sign a PG in 2016 when the cap jumps and they'd suddenly have cap space again.

Ummmm... The Spurs already inked Parker to a nice big extension. Enjoy that, Spurs fans. Legacy contracts don't often turn out well.

EDIT: The Spurs have 34m in committed contracts (Parker, Splitter, Diaw, Mills, Anderson), and even if the cap does go to 70m you still to have add in all their cap holds and draft picks. I imagine right now just between Duncan, Ginobli, and Leonard's holds they are already at or over the cap.


Yep, just went and found the cap holds... Get ready for this...

Tim Duncan PF $15,542,169
Manu Ginobili SG $10,500,000
Danny Green SG $7,647,500
Kawhi Leonard SF $4,045,894
Marco Belinelli SG $3,735,875
Cory Joseph PG $3,034,091
Aron Baynes PF $2,596,250
Jeff Ayres PF $2,377,375
Matt Bonner PF $947,276

That equals a fine sum of $50,426,430 (via Spotrac). That puts them at a tidy cap number of over 84m PLUS their 1st round pick. So, sorry to say, no cap room unless BOTH of Duncan and Ginobli retire. Also note this doesn't factor in the huge raise Leonard is getting.


A few things:

1. You can renounce guys like Bonner, Ayres, Baynes even Cory Joseph and either resign them later at the min, or find cheap replacements

2. If Duncan and/or Manu do NOT retire, they'll sign for less than they make now, so those cap holds won't matter. If Manu agrees to sign for the min, they can renounce him.

3. You can't list Kawhi's cap hold and then say "you didn't factor in Kawhi's huge raise". You can either count the hold, or the max salary he'll get, not both.


If Manu and Duncan accept the min, the Spurs can renounce them + Joseph, Baynes, Ayres and Bonner. That's 35 mil less in cap holds.

Then you sign anyone else who's getting less than their cap hold, if any.
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Post#15 » by the_process » Sun May 3, 2015 4:14 pm

thinktellectual wrote:
oyoyer wrote: Yep, just went and found the cap holds... Get ready for this...

Tim Duncan PF $15,542,169
Manu Ginobili SG $10,500,000
Danny Green SG $7,647,500
Kawhi Leonard SF $4,045,894
Marco Belinelli SG $3,735,875
Cory Joseph PG $3,034,091
Aron Baynes PF $2,596,250
Jeff Ayres PF $2,377,375
Matt Bonner PF $947,276

That equals a fine sum of $50,426,430 (via Spotrac). That puts them at a tidy cap number of over 84m PLUS their 1st round pick. So, sorry to say, no cap room unless BOTH of Duncan and Ginobli retire. Also note this doesn't factor in the huge raise Leonard is getting.


A few things:

1. You can renounce guys like Bonner, Ayres, Baynes even Cory Joseph and either resign them later at the min, or find cheap replacements

2. If Duncan and/or Manu do NOT retire, they'll sign for less than they make now, so those cap holds won't matter. If Manu agrees to sign for the min, they can renounce him.

3. You can't list Kawhi's cap hold and then say "you didn't factor in Kawhi's huge raise". You can either count the hold, or the max salary he'll get, not both.


If Manu and Duncan accept the min, the Spurs can renounce them + Joseph, Baynes, Ayres and Bonner. That's 35 mil less in cap holds.

Then you sign anyone else who's getting less than their cap hold, if any.


First, no one has been renounced, so right now they are at $85m. Second, they haven't been re-signed, and you or I have no idea what their salary will be. Third, Kawhi's cap hold right now (I sense a theme) is listed, and that is what he counts for. I was just mentioning that it is inevitable he will be signing a max deal so if the argument is going to be "everyone signs vet min deals" you can't just eliminate all the cap holds and say that's what the Spurs space will be. Not only do you have to add Kawhi's new deal in (and subtract his cap hold) you also have to add in all the vet min deals in too. Lastly, they don't renounce the holds, they sign a player for a price and their new contract replace the cap hold as the charge to the cap. If Duncan signs a 1 year 5m deal then Duncan's cap charge changes from 15m to 5m. But again, these are all the numbers as of right now.

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