Brian Shaw Interested In Replacing Alvin Gentry As Warriors' Associate Head Coach

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Brian Shaw Interested In Replacing Alvin Gentry As Warriors' Associate Head Coach 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Sun May 31, 2015 5:09 pm

Brian Shaw attended the Golden State Warriors' practice on Saturday and would be interested in joining the team as an associate head coach.


Alvin Gentry will leave the current position to take the head coaching job of the New Orleans Pelicans.


Shaw was fired by the Denver Nuggets this season.


Shaw is an Oakland native and his family moved back to their Oakland Hills home on Saturday.

Via Marc J. Spears/Yahoo! Sports

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Re: Brian Shaw Interested In Replacing Alvin Gentry As Warriors' Associate Head Coach 

Post#2 » by LaRance » Sun May 31, 2015 8:05 pm

I suppose that would be a decent replacement with Alvin Gentry taking the head coach position for the Pelicans
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Post#3 » by GSWarriors22 » Sun May 31, 2015 10:53 pm

Please no. Oakland Native = cool and all, but his stint with the Nuggets was a disaster, from a coaching standpoint all the way to player management. He didnt do anything that deserves that role on the best team. No thanks.
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Re: Brian Shaw Interested In Replacing Alvin Gentry As Warriors' Associate Head Coach 

Post#4 » by Gerald3Wallace » Mon Jun 1, 2015 1:06 am

GSWarriors22 wrote:Please no. Oakland Native = cool and all, but his stint with the Nuggets was a disaster, from a coaching standpoint all the way to player management. He didnt do anything that deserves that role on the best team. No thanks.


Shaw did a great job as an assistant for the Pacers. All the players there respected him.
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Re: Brian Shaw Interested In Replacing Alvin Gentry As Warriors' Associate Head Coach 

Post#5 » by GSWarriors22 » Mon Jun 1, 2015 2:37 am

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GSWarriors22 wrote:Please no. Oakland Native = cool and all, but his stint with the Nuggets was a disaster, from a coaching standpoint all the way to player management. He didnt do anything that deserves that role on the best team. No thanks.


Shaw did a great job as an assistant for the Pacers. All the players there respected him.


Where the Pacers had a much better Team and a good defensive HC in Vogel (yes he was new to the job etc, but still) plus guys like Dan Burke etc. What did Shaw do to make the Pacers Offense better? (serious question)
Im not talking player management or development, I am taking Xs and Os.

With Adams, the Warriors already have a defensive coach, Gentry was in large parts responsable for the offense. So what does Shaw bring to the table? In Denver he turned a low seeded playoff team that was relying on small ball and a high pace (guard and wing heavy team) to a team that focused on slower pace with more inside-out game. That was bold.
The first year was full of injury, I give him that, but the second year he was just plain bad.

I just want the Warriors to surround themselves with the best available coaches, like they should as the best team. I dont consider Shaw as one of the best coaches.
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Post#6 » by koogiking » Mon Jun 1, 2015 2:27 pm

Luke Walton, Steve Kerr, Brian Shaw. That's a lot of triangle guys. And people say the triangle doesn't work in the modern nba
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Re: Brian Shaw Interested In Replacing Alvin Gentry As Warriors' Associate Head Coach 

Post#7 » by Raptor_Guy » Mon Jun 1, 2015 2:46 pm

Is he going to try to make another offensive team play "smash mouth basketball"?
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Re: Brian Shaw Interested In Replacing Alvin Gentry As Warriors' Associate Head Coach 

Post#8 » by East Bay Sports » Mon Jun 1, 2015 3:03 pm

Raptor_Guy wrote:Is he going to try to make another offensive team play "smash mouth basketball"?

First off, Denver hired him to try and do that. Blame their FO for bringing in a round peg for their square hole, all while maintaining the same team built for tempo while asking him to slow things down. They knew what Shaw's style was when they hired him.

Second off, being an assistant is obviously much different from a head coach. Do you really think Shaw, or whoever the associate head coach winds up being, is going to come in and try to change things up? Things are obviously working lol, Kerr, Walton, Adams and the rest of the organization aren't going to forget what worked over the course of this season. Whoever comes in will be working within our system, not implementing his own.
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Post#9 » by MaxRider » Mon Jun 1, 2015 3:39 pm

is there a position Brian Shaw not interested in?
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Post#10 » by MaxRider » Mon Jun 1, 2015 3:41 pm

koogiking wrote:Luke Walton, Steve Kerr, Brian Shaw. That's a lot of triangle guys. And people say the triangle doesn't work in the modern nba


triangle offense needs at least one post player
post up game is dead in today nba
so yes triangle offense is dead in modern nba
warriors is not running triangle offense
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Post#11 » by koogiking » Mon Jun 1, 2015 3:51 pm

MaxRider wrote:
koogiking wrote:Luke Walton, Steve Kerr, Brian Shaw. That's a lot of triangle guys. And people say the triangle doesn't work in the modern nba


triangle offense needs at least one post player
post up game is dead in today nba
so yes triangle offense is dead in modern nba
warriors is not running triangle offense


There offense has many triangle elements and sets. And also, Draymond Green does post up especially on mismatches. And Bogut is a post player too even though he's not a great scorer.

Hell even Klay likes to post and fade sometimes
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Re: Brian Shaw Interested In Replacing Alvin Gentry As Warriors' Associate Head Coach 

Post#12 » by MaxRider » Mon Jun 1, 2015 4:06 pm

koogiking wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
koogiking wrote:Luke Walton, Steve Kerr, Brian Shaw. That's a lot of triangle guys. And people say the triangle doesn't work in the modern nba


triangle offense needs at least one post player
post up game is dead in today nba
so yes triangle offense is dead in modern nba
warriors is not running triangle offense


There offense has many triangle elements and sets. And also, Draymond Green does post up especially on mismatches. And Bogut is a post player too even though he's not a great scorer.

Hell even Klay likes to post and fade sometimes

GSW offense is like mix of D'Antoni's Suns and Pop's Spurs offense more than triangle offense
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Post#13 » by ChosunX » Mon Jun 1, 2015 4:15 pm

So he won't be rapping there?
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Re: Brian Shaw Interested In Replacing Alvin Gentry As Warriors' Associate Head Coach 

Post#14 » by thinktellectual » Mon Jun 1, 2015 4:21 pm

Gerald3Wallace wrote:
GSWarriors22 wrote:Please no. Oakland Native = cool and all, but his stint with the Nuggets was a disaster, from a coaching standpoint all the way to player management. He didnt do anything that deserves that role on the best team. No thanks.


Shaw did a great job as an assistant for the Pacers. All the players there respected him.


That was a team that played a completely different style compared to the Warriors.

What's he gonna do ? Slow down the Warriors ? Have them shoot less 3's and play Bogut inside ? Have them play the triangle ?
If there's any former HC that the Warriors should want as an offensive coordinator, it would be D'Antoni. As hated as he is, this team is perfect for his offense.

If there's a team that needs a defensive coordinator, it's the Clippers.
Maybe Doc should consider bringing in someone like Mike Brown or maybe Shaw, because I am pretty sure Thibs wouldn't accept an assistant job. Maybe Doc should fire himself as HC, bring in Thibs and work with him but only on the offense. Leaves him with more time for GM stuff and lets Thibs shine at what he's really good at: defense.
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Re: Brian Shaw Interested In Replacing Alvin Gentry As Warriors' Associate Head Coach 

Post#15 » by Jazzing » Mon Jun 1, 2015 7:45 pm

koogiking wrote:Luke Walton, Steve Kerr, Brian Shaw. That's a lot of triangle guys. And people say the triangle doesn't work in the modern nba


This triangle thing doesn't even exist.
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Re: Brian Shaw Interested In Replacing Alvin Gentry As Warriors' Associate Head Coach 

Post#16 » by Pickled Prunes » Mon Jun 1, 2015 9:21 pm

MaxRider wrote:
koogiking wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
triangle offense needs at least one post player
post up game is dead in today nba
so yes triangle offense is dead in modern nba
warriors is not running triangle offense


There offense has many triangle elements and sets. And also, Draymond Green does post up especially on mismatches. And Bogut is a post player too even though he's not a great scorer.

Hell even Klay likes to post and fade sometimes

GSW offense is like mix of D'Antoni's Suns and Pop's Spurs offense more than triangle offense

The Triangle is based on having 3 guys on the strong side, one in the post but not necessarily a big. Any three players can run the triangle and many teams use triangle sets at times. But to run it well you need skilled and willing passers at each position... which is why I question Phil's decision with Melo.
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Re: Brian Shaw Interested In Replacing Alvin Gentry As Warriors' Associate Head Coach 

Post#17 » by MaxRider » Mon Jun 1, 2015 9:34 pm

Pickled Prunes wrote:e]
GSW offense is like mix of D'Antoni's Suns and Pop's Spurs offense more than triangle offense

The Triangle is based on having 3 guys on the strong side, one in the post but not necessarily a big. Any three players can run the triangle and many teams use triangle sets at times. But to run it well you need skilled and willing passers at each position... which is why I question Phil's decision with Melo.[/quote]

The offense starts when a guard passes to the wing and cuts to the strong-side corner. The triangle is created from a post player on the strong-side block, the strong-side corner, and the extended strong-side wing, who gains possession on the first pass. The desired initial option in the offense is to pass to the strong-side post player on the block who is in good scoring position. From there the player has the options of looking to score or pass to one of the perimeter players who are exchanging from strong-side corner and wing, a dive cut down the lane, or the opposite wing flashing to the top of the key which initiates another common option known as the "pinch post."


GSW usually start with pick and roll
it's different than triangle offense
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Re: Brian Shaw Interested In Replacing Alvin Gentry As Warriors' Associate Head Coach 

Post#18 » by Pickled Prunes » Tue Jun 2, 2015 7:39 pm

MaxRider wrote:
Pickled Prunes wrote:e]
GSW offense is like mix of D'Antoni's Suns and Pop's Spurs offense more than triangle offense

The Triangle is based on having 3 guys on the strong side, one in the post but not necessarily a big. Any three players can run the triangle and many teams use triangle sets at times. But to run it well you need skilled and willing passers at each position... which is why I question Phil's decision with Melo.


The offense starts when a guard passes to the wing and cuts to the strong-side corner. The triangle is created from a post player on the strong-side block, the strong-side corner, and the extended strong-side wing, who gains possession on the first pass. The desired initial option in the offense is to pass to the strong-side post player on the block who is in good scoring position. From there the player has the options of looking to score or pass to one of the perimeter players who are exchanging from strong-side corner and wing, a dive cut down the lane, or the opposite wing flashing to the top of the key which initiates another common option known as the "pinch post."


GSW usually start with pick and roll
it's different than triangle offense[/quote]
Yeah, I didn't mention GSW in my post. My point was that you don't necessarily need a great post scorer. You need players that are good at passing from the post.

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