Silver: Kobe Bryant Deserves To Be In 2016 All-Star Game

Post #1 » by **RealGM Wiretap** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:24 pm

Adam Silver said he believes Kobe Bryant deserves a place in the 2016 NBA All-Star Game.

Bryant recently announced he will retire at the end of the season.

Bryant is a 17-time NBA All-Star and has won the All-Star Game MVP on four separate occasions.

Via Jeff Zillgitt/USA Today

... · Post #2 » by **...** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:40 pm

Adam Silver is wrong.

random_hero891 · Post #3 » by **random_hero891** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:53 pm

Unless they're planning on making an extra rooster spot for "lifetime achievement award" type players, there's no way Kobe's play is deserving of a roster spot.

DJ3thenew23 · Post #4 » by **DJ3thenew23** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:10 pm

random_hero891 wrote:Unless they're planning on making an extra rooster spot for "lifetime achievement award" type players, there's no way Kobe's play is deserving of a roster spot.

Remember Iverson and Yao Ming that one year?

Fans voting = Lifetime achievement all-star spots

Side note, how the hell is Kobe in the frontcourt?

Pickled Prunes · Post #5 » by **Pickled Prunes** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:22 am

DJ3thenew23 wrote:
random_hero891 wrote:Unless they're planning on making an extra rooster spot for "lifetime achievement award" type players, there's no way Kobe's play is deserving of a roster spot.

Remember Iverson and Yao Ming that one year?

Fans voting = Lifetime achievement all-star spots

Side note, how the hell is Kobe in the frontcourt?

He's playing SF this year.

juduking · Post #6 » by **juduking** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:14 am

DJ3thenew23 wrote:
random_hero891 wrote:Unless they're planning on making an extra rooster spot for "lifetime achievement award" type players, there's no way Kobe's play is deserving of a roster spot.

Remember Iverson and Yao Ming that one year?

Fans voting = Lifetime achievement all-star spots

Side note, how the hell is Kobe in the frontcourt?

Grant Hill use to get voted in every year too for a long time. Players should have to play a certain number of minutes or games to be eligible, and have to be genuinely helping their teams. Kobe while an all time great should not be an all star. I mean he is getting all star treatment on his going away tour around the league already. Plus he doesn't need to be in the game for any other reason than his ego making him think he is still a big time player like the rest of the all star rosters will be.

Cassius · Post #7 » by **Cassius** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:55 am

Fraud.

MitchB3 · Post #8 » by **MitchB3** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:20 am

... wrote:Adam Silver is wrong.

Yeah, and when Kobe is there will he still be wrong?

... · Post #9 » by **...** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:21 am

MitchB3 wrote:
... wrote:Adam Silver is wrong.

Yeah, and when Kobe is there will he still be wrong?

No, just able to prove how far his power reaches.

Cicero · Post #10 » by **Cicero** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:37 am

I think the obvious solution to the bickering and bitterness over all star selections is to stop citing them as achievements of any meaning (other than popularity) when discussing the HoF or a player's overall career. It's stupid that people complain about the all star game and yet so many still cite all star selections when rating careers as if they have any relation to skill.
It's not like the likes of Yi Jianlin and Jeremy Lin deserved their all star close calls, nearly getting in, it's merely a comment on fanbases.

Let Kobe in, let any old beloved no longer good player in, let any flash in the pan with a fanbase in, if the fans will select them...just stop acting like all star selections actually mean anything significant in relation to the game of basketball: they don't.

LaRance · Post #11 » by **LaRance** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:21 pm

I agree, Kobe deserves to be there and I will be voting for him. kobe brought some exciting basketball to the nba for the last 20 years. ofcourse his game has declined because he's aging but he's all around the closest thing I've seen to Michael Jordan in my life

DJ3thenew23 · Post #12 » by **DJ3thenew23** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:50 pm

MitchB3 wrote:
... wrote:Adam Silver is wrong.

Yeah, and when Kobe is there will he still be wrong?

Silver said Kobe DESERVES to be in the game, which he does not. Whether he makes it or not doesn't matter, he doesn't deserve a spot, but the fans will give him one anyways.

pnxd · Post #13 » by **pnxd** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:22 pm

LaRance wrote:I agree, Kobe deserves to be there and I will be voting for him. kobe brought some exciting basketball to the nba for the last 20 years. ofcourse his game has declined because he's aging but he's all around the closest thing I've seen to Michael Jordan in my life

Agree.

This is what MJ said about Iverson offering up his all-star spot:
"He said, 'If you don't mind, I'd like to step aside and let you start,"' Jordan recounted. "No one knew about it. He called me personally and I didn't make it known."
"It shows what type of people they are, about the history of the game, about guys who have paved the way," Jordan said. "I would have done it for Dr. J. and I'm sure Dr. J. would have done it for someone else. That, to me, just shows how much they care about the game. I take it as a compliment, but I would rather for them to play and start and let me come off the bench."

Kobe may not be goat, but definitely in that class, and deserves the start.

juduking · Post #14 » by **juduking** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:45 pm

pnxd wrote:
LaRance wrote:I agree, Kobe deserves to be there and I will be voting for him. kobe brought some exciting basketball to the nba for the last 20 years. ofcourse his game has declined because he's aging but he's all around the closest thing I've seen to Michael Jordan in my life

Agree.

This is what MJ said about Iverson offering up his all-star spot:
"He said, 'If you don't mind, I'd like to step aside and let you start,"' Jordan recounted. "No one knew about it. He called me personally and I didn't make it known."
"It shows what type of people they are, about the history of the game, about guys who have paved the way," Jordan said. "I would have done it for Dr. J. and I'm sure Dr. J. would have done it for someone else. That, to me, just shows how much they care about the game. I take it as a compliment, but I would rather for them to play and start and let me come off the bench."

Kobe may not be goat, but definitely in that class, and deserves the start.

Jordan also said Kobe was a top ten shooting guard of all time. I doubt Kobe would step aside for Jordan or anyone else. He doesnt deserve to be in the "what have you done for me lately" game.

ChosunX · Post #15 » by **ChosunX** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:10 am

LaRance wrote:I agree, Kobe deserves to be there and I will be voting for him. kobe brought some exciting basketball to the nba for the last 20 years. ofcourse his game has declined because he's aging but he's all around the closest thing I've seen to Michael Jordan in my life

He derves it just as soon ans nobody mentions all stardom as a real achievment opposed to a popularity contest.

MitchB3 · Post #16 » by **MitchB3** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:39 pm

DJ3thenew23 wrote:
MitchB3 wrote:
... wrote:Adam Silver is wrong.

Yeah, and when Kobe is there will he still be wrong?

Silver said Kobe DESERVES to be in the game, which he does not. Whether he makes it or not doesn't matter, he doesn't deserve a spot, but the fans will give him one anyways.

Please tell me who in the West DESERVES a spot? Kobe has a lot more on his resume, and not to mention has done more for the NBA than anyone in the west. Kobe has been voted into the last two All-Star games but due to injury couldn't play.

DJ3thenew23 · Post #17 » by **DJ3thenew23** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:59 pm

MitchB3 wrote:
DJ3thenew23 wrote:
MitchB3 wrote:
Yeah, and when Kobe is there will he still be wrong?

Silver said Kobe DESERVES to be in the game, which he does not. Whether he makes it or not doesn't matter, he doesn't deserve a spot, but the fans will give him one anyways.

Please tell me who in the West DESERVES a spot? Kobe has a lot more on his resume, and not to mention has done more for the NBA than anyone in the west. Kobe has been voted into the last two All-Star games but due to injury couldn't play.

The All-Star game is a season by season award. The Hall of Fame is where Kobe should and will get his lifetime achievement recognition. He has played like ass this season, the exact opposite of an All-Star.

MitchB3 · Post #18 » by **MitchB3** » Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:31 am

DJ3thenew23 wrote:
MitchB3 wrote:
DJ3thenew23 wrote:
Silver said Kobe DESERVES to be in the game, which he does not. Whether he makes it or not doesn't matter, he doesn't deserve a spot, but the fans will give him one anyways.

Please tell me who in the West DESERVES a spot? Kobe has a lot more on his resume, and not to mention has done more for the NBA than anyone in the west. Kobe has been voted into the last two All-Star games but due to injury couldn't play.

The All-Star game is a season by season award. The Hall of Fame is where Kobe should and will get his lifetime achievement recognition. He has played like ass this season, the exact opposite of an All-Star.

Is also possible that because he's on the Lakers that could also be a reason why he has been playing bad? Let's be honest if the Lakers put good solid players around Kobe, I don't think we would see the demise of Kobe like this.

ChosunX · Post #19 » by **ChosunX** » Tue Dec 15, 2015 7:53 am

MitchB3 wrote:
DJ3thenew23 wrote:
MitchB3 wrote:

Please tell me who in the West DESERVES a spot? Kobe has a lot more on his resume, and not to mention has done more for the NBA than anyone in the west. Kobe has been voted into the last two All-Star games but due to injury couldn't play.

The All-Star game is a season by season award. The Hall of Fame is where Kobe should and will get his lifetime achievement recognition. He has played like ass this season, the exact opposite of an All-Star.

Is also possible that because he's on the Lakers that could also be a reason why he has been playing bad? Let's be honest if the Lakers put good solid players around Kobe, I don't think we would see the demise of Kobe like this.

Thing is solid players don't want to play with Kobe.

DJ3thenew23 · Post #20 » by **DJ3thenew23** » Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:59 pm

MitchB3 wrote:
DJ3thenew23 wrote:
MitchB3 wrote:

Please tell me who in the West DESERVES a spot? Kobe has a lot more on his resume, and not to mention has done more for the NBA than anyone in the west. Kobe has been voted into the last two All-Star games but due to injury couldn't play.

The All-Star game is a season by season award. The Hall of Fame is where Kobe should and will get his lifetime achievement recognition. He has played like ass this season, the exact opposite of an All-Star.

Is also possible that because he's on the Lakers that could also be a reason why he has been playing bad? Let's be honest if the Lakers put good solid players around Kobe, I don't think we would see the demise of Kobe like this.

Regardless, he's played bad, he shouldn't be an all-star.