Windhorst: Hassan Whiteside 'Absolutely Not A Heat Player'

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Windhorst: Hassan Whiteside 'Absolutely Not A Heat Player' 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Thu Jan 7, 2016 1:17 am

Hassan Whiteside will be a free agent in the offseason and the Miami Heat don't own his Bird Rights.


"This is a guy who is going to get a max contract in the summer. And he's absolutely not a Heat player," said Windhorst on Zach Lowe's podcast. "His style of play, his personality, the way he goes about his business is not congruent with the way the Heat normally go about themselves.


"The Heat have a decision to make: do you ride out the season with Whiteside or do you package him with (Luol) Deng before the deadline."

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Re: Windhorst: Hassan Whiteside 'Absolutely Not A Heat Player' 

Post#2 » by Hector_Reyes_8 » Thu Jan 7, 2016 2:16 am

Windhorst shouldn't be allowed to comment on teams that his deity isn't on.
On Harden being MVP of this season ( I don't even like Harden much)

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Post#3 » by Arp590 » Thu Jan 7, 2016 3:23 am

He is not a Heat player?
What the hell does that even mean?

Weird ass comments from Windhorst.
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Post#4 » by artsncrafts » Thu Jan 7, 2016 3:41 am

Max Contract?

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Post#5 » by MotownMadness » Thu Jan 7, 2016 4:04 am

I'm sure the Heat would disagree with that
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Post#6 » by tayottt » Thu Jan 7, 2016 4:58 am

This isn't really shocking.
It's been bubbling among longtime Heat media members for some time. The Heat are in a precarious position since they don't have full Bird right on Whiteside and Wade has a humongous caphold.
Whiteside will be maxed somewhere and the Heat don't have much in the way of hard statistical evidence that he makes them better. I've personally been saying this since before the season even started. I even suggested they have Whiteside come off the bench for the betterment of the team. It also hurts that Whiteside doesn't conduct himself in a manner that the higher-ups in the Heat organization like. Even Dan Lebatard has referenced sources in the organization that have been worried about Whiteside's antics on and off the court.

They would be wise to move him for assets and try to land another big fish in free agency. There are probably other teams with assets to spare that can better utilize Whiteside (e.g Boston, Dallas, Portland).
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Post#7 » by OrlChamps2030 » Thu Jan 7, 2016 5:03 am

tayottt wrote:This isn't really shocking.
It's been bubbling among longtime Heat media members for some time. The Heat are in a precarious position since they don't have full Bird right on Whiteside and Wade has a humongous caphold.
Whiteside will be maxed somewhere and the Heat don't have much in the way of hard statistical evidence that he makes them better. I've personally been saying this since before the season even started. I even suggested they have Whiteside come off the bench for the betterment of the team. It also hurts that Whiteside doesn't conduct himself in a manner that the higher-ups in the Heat organization like. Even Dan Lebatard has referenced sources in the organization that have been worried about Whiteside's antics on and off the court.

They would be wise to move him for assets and try to land another big fish in free agency. There are probably other teams with assets to spare that can better utilize Whiteside (e.g Boston, Dallas, Portland).


Just curious, what antics has he been up to off the court?
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Post#8 » by 76ers 2020 » Thu Jan 7, 2016 5:04 am

Should bookmark this post and come back to it if/when they decide to sign Beasley again.
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Post#9 » by kidco2 » Thu Jan 7, 2016 5:23 am

He's not even an nba player without the heat and coach Spo please allow yourself to fully utilize this kid.
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Post#10 » by e_l_f_o » Thu Jan 7, 2016 12:56 pm

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tayottt wrote:This isn't really shocking.
It's been bubbling among longtime Heat media members for some time. The Heat are in a precarious position since they don't have full Bird right on Whiteside and Wade has a humongous caphold.
Whiteside will be maxed somewhere and the Heat don't have much in the way of hard statistical evidence that he makes them better. I've personally been saying this since before the season even started. I even suggested they have Whiteside come off the bench for the betterment of the team. It also hurts that Whiteside doesn't conduct himself in a manner that the higher-ups in the Heat organization like. Even Dan Lebatard has referenced sources in the organization that have been worried about Whiteside's antics on and off the court.

They would be wise to move him for assets and try to land another big fish in free agency. There are probably other teams with assets to spare that can better utilize Whiteside (e.g Boston, Dallas, Portland).


Just curious, what antics has he been up to off the court?

Yep, would also like to know. He doesnt seem like that kind of player..
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Post#11 » by Pukovnik » Thu Jan 7, 2016 3:27 pm

Whiteside is a rare type of center with a stunning defensive capability going alongside huge offensive potential with a nice shooting touch. If guys like Tristan Thompson and DeAndre Jordan deserve max deals, then sure as hell Whiteside deserves one too.
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Post#12 » by 6_Rings » Thu Jan 7, 2016 4:37 pm

what the heck is a 'Heat' player...
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Post#13 » by nycefnl » Thu Jan 7, 2016 5:57 pm

Really classless media out there trying to hurt the kids stock so they can get him on the cheap. If he so "not a Heat player" then trade him for someone who is. Sad for an organization to reaort to that. No one told yall to over pay for Bosh, Dragic, and Wade.
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Post#14 » by Sam195 » Thu Jan 7, 2016 9:32 pm

Pat Riley would love to package Whiteside with Deng for Dwight Howard. It would be a dejavu from when he acquired Shaq - people thought he was on the decline and he wanted a max deal. Riley acquires Shaq for pennies on the dollar and convinces him to take a discounted extension from his max contract demands. Two seasons later heat win title. Riley probably won't move Winslow in any trade unless its for a young star like Demarcus Cousins but he may be willing to trade another future first like he did with the Dragic trade to get D12. Rockets were the first to envision Bosh and Howard co-existing in a front court (they compliment each other extremely well) when Bosh was ufa but they couldn't convince him to leave Heat. Now Riley may try to pressure the rockets to send him D12 or they will lose him in the summer.
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Post#15 » by Sam195 » Thu Jan 7, 2016 10:06 pm

nycefnl wrote:Really classless media out there trying to hurt the kids stock so they can get him on the cheap. If he so "not a Heat player" then trade him for someone who is. Sad for an organization to reaort to that. No one told yall to over pay for Bosh, Dragic, and Wade.


The three players you mentioned are underpaid based on the future salary cap projections. Dragic is struggling but he isn't even signed to a max deal (Riley convinced him to sign for 5 years 85M as oppose to the 5 years 113M max he's entitled to last summer). I think Knicks were willing to offer him 4 years 80M+ but he committed to the heat's lesser deal because of the the income tax savings in florida that help pad the difference as well as the ability to be able to play a large role on a contender - something he's never done in his career before. Bosh's 5 year 118M also looks like a bargain based on his play of late and when players like Enes Kanter, Tristan Thompson and Demarre Carroll are getting handed deals like 5 yrs 82M, 4 years 70M and 4 years 60M.
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Re: Windhorst: Hassan Whiteside 'Absolutely Not A Heat Player' 

Post#16 » by K_chile22 » Thu Jan 7, 2016 10:57 pm

Sam195 wrote:Pat Riley would love to package Whiteside with Deng for Dwight Howard. It would be a dejavu from when he acquired Shaq - people thought he was on the decline and he wanted a max deal. Riley acquires Shaq for pennies on the dollar and convinces him to take a discounted extension from his max contract demands. Two seasons later heat win title. Riley probably won't move Winslow in any trade unless its for a young star like Demarcus Cousins but he may be willing to trade another future first like he did with the Dragic trade to get D12. Rockets were the first to envision Bosh and Howard co-existing in a front court (they compliment each other extremely well) when Bosh was ufa but they couldn't convince him to leave Heat. Now Riley may try to pressure the rockets to send him D12 or they will lose him in the summer.

Doubt Houston would take that deal. Deng doesn't help all that much and they would have a very hard time keeping Whiteside unless they give up all free agency hopes because no bird rights


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Post#17 » by Sam195 » Thu Jan 7, 2016 11:40 pm

K_chile22 wrote:
Sam195 wrote:Pat Riley would love to package Whiteside with Deng for Dwight Howard. It would be a dejavu from when he acquired Shaq - people thought he was on the decline and he wanted a max deal. Riley acquires Shaq for pennies on the dollar and convinces him to take a discounted extension from his max contract demands. Two seasons later heat win title. Riley probably won't move Winslow in any trade unless its for a young star like Demarcus Cousins but he may be willing to trade another future first like he did with the Dragic trade to get D12. Rockets were the first to envision Bosh and Howard co-existing in a front court (they compliment each other extremely well) when Bosh was ufa but they couldn't convince him to leave Heat. Now Riley may try to pressure the rockets to send him D12 or they will lose him in the summer.

Doubt Houston would take that deal. Deng doesn't help all that much and they would have a very hard time keeping Whiteside unless they give up all free agency hopes because no bird rights


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I was thinking a multi-team trade (both deng and whiteside are expiring deals) so rockets may rather ride it out with D12 than acquire them but another team(s) interested in those two may put the assets on the table for the rockets to accept a deal.
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Post#18 » by Wally West » Fri Jan 8, 2016 12:11 am

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