Wizards Preparing Max Offer To Joakim Noah

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Wizards Preparing Max Offer To Joakim Noah 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:45 pm

The Washington Wizards are prepared to make a major offer to Joakim Noah in free agency.


Washington will offer Noah a full maximum contract that would start at $28 million and reach around $120 million over four seasons.


Noah is coming off shoulder surgery that ended his season in January.


Noah is expected to leave the Chicago Bulls this offseason and they traded for Robin Lopez previously this week.

Via Mitch Lawrence/Sporting News

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Post#2 » by Pukovnik » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:02 pm

I wouldn't pay Noah a penny over 12 mil per season. No chance in hell he is worth 28 mil...that's just insane.
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Post#3 » by Clutch31 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:15 pm

Pukovnik wrote:I wouldn't pay Noah a penny over 12 mil per season. No chance in hell he is worth 28 mil...that's just insane.


This is insane.

A max contract for a good roleplayer?
A max contract for someone coming of two bad years who also had a season ending surgery?

The GM who even considers this should be fired right away, you're jeopardising the future of your franchise.
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Re: Wizards Preparing Max Offer To Joakim Noah 

Post#4 » by jlokine » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:21 pm

i'd rather take biyombo for $15-$18M (as rumoured) than noah for max... what biyombo lose in passing ability compared to noah, you get rim protection.. both are energy players and dont require plays ran for them to be effective.. it's almost $10M difference.. and even then $18M for biyombo is already overpayment.
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Re: Wizards Preparing Max Offer To Joakim Noah 

Post#5 » by DAWill1128 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:43 pm

This is the worst reporting ever, why would the Wizards pay 28 million a year on a backup center? They already have Gortat at who is a better player then Noah at this stage and plays the majority of minutes. A lot of teams are reluctant to offer 10-15 million for similar players to Noah.
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Re: Wizards Preparing Max Offer To Joakim Noah 

Post#6 » by luss54321 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:04 pm

DAWill1128 wrote:This is the worst reporting ever, why would the Wizards pay 28 million a year on a backup center? They already have Gortat at who is a better player then Noah at this stage and plays the majority of minutes. A lot of teams are reluctant to offer 10-15 million for similar players to Noah.


Backup center?

You mean DPOY who was 4th in MVP voting a few years ago. Noah is a far better player than Gortat. He's not worth the max, but he's certainly no backup. NOBODY in the NBA would be reluctant to offer 10 million to Noah. You need to check your research son.

Also, it's not going to be the worst reporting ever if it actually happens...
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Re: Wizards Preparing Max Offer To Joakim Noah 

Post#7 » by qwerty1234 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:17 pm

DAWill1128 wrote:This is the worst reporting ever, why would the Wizards pay 28 million a year on a backup center? They already have Gortat at who is a better player then Noah at this stage and plays the majority of minutes. A lot of teams are reluctant to offer 10-15 million for similar players to Noah.


Not to mention assuming the Wiz max out Beal this would put them over the cap with 5 spots to fill.

I don't know which is worse, the reporting or the people who think this might actually happen haha.
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Post#8 » by Biscayne Beast » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:10 pm

Max??? But he's trash, injured, and 30 ...
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Re: Wizards Preparing Max Offer To Joakim Noah 

Post#9 » by DAWill1128 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:15 pm

luss54321 wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:This is the worst reporting ever, why would the Wizards pay 28 million a year on a backup center? They already have Gortat at who is a better player then Noah at this stage and plays the majority of minutes. A lot of teams are reluctant to offer 10-15 million for similar players to Noah.


Backup center?

You mean DPOY who was 4th in MVP voting a few years ago. Noah is a far better player than Gortat. He's not worth the max, but he's certainly no backup. NOBODY in the NBA would be reluctant to offer 10 million to Noah. You need to check your research son.

Also, it's not going to be the worst reporting ever if it actually happens...


Noah is already a backup, he was a backup this past year. Noah played 29 games averaged 4 points 8 rebounds on 38% shooting. Give me Gortat who played an extra 50 games and averaged 13 points 10 rebounds and 56% shooting. Check your research son.
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Post#10 » by Tussin33 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:25 pm

Noah getting the max? Christ. :banghead:
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Post#11 » by Barcs » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:28 pm

This has to be a joke. No way Noah is worth a max deal. If so, then the NBA needs to re-evaluate this max deal nonsense because there is way too big of a gap between Lebron James and Noah. Maybe it's time to get rid of max deals. They are stupid if every above average aging declining vet can get a max deal. LMAO. NBA cba is a joke.
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Re: Wizards Preparing Max Offer To Joakim Noah 

Post#12 » by luss54321 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:49 pm

DAWill1128 wrote:
luss54321 wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:This is the worst reporting ever, why would the Wizards pay 28 million a year on a backup center? They already have Gortat at who is a better player then Noah at this stage and plays the majority of minutes. A lot of teams are reluctant to offer 10-15 million for similar players to Noah.


Backup center?

You mean DPOY who was 4th in MVP voting a few years ago. Noah is a far better player than Gortat. He's not worth the max, but he's certainly no backup. NOBODY in the NBA would be reluctant to offer 10 million to Noah. You need to check your research son.

Also, it's not going to be the worst reporting ever if it actually happens...


Noah is already a backup, he was a backup this past year. Noah played 29 games averaged 4 points 8 rebounds on 38% shooting. Give me Gortat who played an extra 50 games and averaged 13 points 10 rebounds and 56% shooting. Check your research son.


Do you actually watch basketball or just look up numbers?

1) Noah is a tremendous passer, great defender, moves his feet well and gets across the lane to play help defense better than almost any center in the NBA, runs the floor extremely well, can actually run the fast break, and he's one of the better rebounders in the NBA.

Why are you quoting statistics from a year when he was injured? Are you really that dumb?

Gortat sucks. He's not a good rebounder. He's not a good passer. He brings nothing to the table on offense. He's slow, unathletic, and untalented in almost every regard. He's certainly not winning DPOY and he's certainly not getting any MVP votes.
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Re: Wizards Preparing Max Offer To Joakim Noah 

Post#13 » by tayottt » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:14 pm

This seems pretty absurd. He's past his prime and teams don't guard him at all anymore. AT ALL. I love his passing ability but that passing is set up by off-ball movement. It's not like he can draw a double and kick out. You have to utilize him as a hub. The problem is, he doesn't have the jump shot to set his passing up.

Obviously he's coming off injuries and hasn't looked right in a while. He SHOULD be better defensively when 100%, but the offensive issues are too much for me to give him more than 15M/yr. Do the Wizards seriously think he will help John Wall by taking the ball out of his hands on offense and not converting on the attempts John creates for him.

Totally silly.
Noah would be better off taking a pay cut and going to GSW/ATL/SAS where there are shooters and cutters. He can play the Bogut role off the bench.
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Re: Wizards Preparing Max Offer To Joakim Noah 

Post#14 » by scubaslim » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:26 pm

luss54321 wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:This is the worst reporting ever, why would the Wizards pay 28 million a year on a backup center? They already have Gortat at who is a better player then Noah at this stage and plays the majority of minutes. A lot of teams are reluctant to offer 10-15 million for similar players to Noah.


Backup center?

You mean DPOY who was 4th in MVP voting a few years ago. Noah is a far better player than Gortat. He's not worth the max, but he's certainly no backup. NOBODY in the NBA would be reluctant to offer 10 million to Noah. You need to check your research son.

Also, it's not going to be the worst reporting ever if it actually happens...



10 million IS backup money now... you're ridiculous
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Re: Wizards Preparing Max Offer To Joakim Noah 

Post#15 » by tocooks101 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:28 pm

luss54321 wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:
luss54321 wrote:
Backup center?

You mean DPOY who was 4th in MVP voting a few years ago. Noah is a far better player than Gortat. He's not worth the max, but he's certainly no backup. NOBODY in the NBA would be reluctant to offer 10 million to Noah. You need to check your research son.

Also, it's not going to be the worst reporting ever if it actually happens...


Noah is already a backup, he was a backup this past year. Noah played 29 games averaged 4 points 8 rebounds on 38% shooting. Give me Gortat who played an extra 50 games and averaged 13 points 10 rebounds and 56% shooting. Check your research son.


Do you actually watch basketball or just look up numbers?

1) Noah is a tremendous passer, great defender, moves his feet well and gets across the lane to play help defense better than almost any center in the NBA, runs the floor extremely well, can actually run the fast break, and he's one of the better rebounders in the NBA.

Why are you quoting statistics from a year when he was injured? Are you really that dumb?

Gortat sucks. He's not a good rebounder. He's not a good passer. He brings nothing to the table on offense. He's slow, unathletic, and untalented in almost every regard. He's certainly not winning DPOY and he's certainly not getting any MVP votes.


OMG crying much? Seriously so much emotion in your posts hard to understand what you're trying to say.

No way Noah is worth the max at this stage in his career, not sure what Washington is thinking.

Sad to see Noah on the decline, couple years ago before all the injuries he was really developing his game into one of the top centers in the league.
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Re: Wizards Preparing Max Offer To Joakim Noah 

Post#16 » by luss54321 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:24 pm

tocooks101 wrote:
luss54321 wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:
Noah is already a backup, he was a backup this past year. Noah played 29 games averaged 4 points 8 rebounds on 38% shooting. Give me Gortat who played an extra 50 games and averaged 13 points 10 rebounds and 56% shooting. Check your research son.


Do you actually watch basketball or just look up numbers?

1) Noah is a tremendous passer, great defender, moves his feet well and gets across the lane to play help defense better than almost any center in the NBA, runs the floor extremely well, can actually run the fast break, and he's one of the better rebounders in the NBA.

Why are you quoting statistics from a year when he was injured? Are you really that dumb?

Gortat sucks. He's not a good rebounder. He's not a good passer. He brings nothing to the table on offense. He's slow, unathletic, and untalented in almost every regard. He's certainly not winning DPOY and he's certainly not getting any MVP votes.


OMG crying much? Seriously so much emotion in your posts hard to understand what you're trying to say.

No way Noah is worth the max at this stage in his career, not sure what Washington is thinking.

Sad to see Noah on the decline, couple years ago before all the injuries he was really developing his game into one of the top centers in the league.


Guilty as charged.

My point was: Noah is not worth the max, but he's a far better player than Gortat, and his market value is certainly higher than 10 million a year.
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Re: Wizards Preparing Max Offer To Joakim Noah 

Post#17 » by Lateral Quicks » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:28 pm

Like Noah, but he's trending in the wrong direction. The max is laughable. He's probably a role player at this point.
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Re: Wizards Preparing Max Offer To Joakim Noah 

Post#18 » by 12footrim » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:38 pm

luss54321 wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:This is the worst reporting ever, why would the Wizards pay 28 million a year on a backup center? They already have Gortat at who is a better player then Noah at this stage and plays the majority of minutes. A lot of teams are reluctant to offer 10-15 million for similar players to Noah.


Backup center?

You mean DPOY who was 4th in MVP voting a few years ago. Noah is a far better player than Gortat. He's not worth the max, but he's certainly no backup. NOBODY in the NBA would be reluctant to offer 10 million to Noah. You need to check your research son.

Also, it's not going to be the worst reporting ever if it actually happens...


Right bro because what you did a few years ago is what you should be pay for today and the next few years at 30 years old and in decline. If this was the case someone would be maxing out Vince Carter.
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Re: Wizards Preparing Max Offer To Joakim Noah 

Post#19 » by K6P » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:17 pm

Just wanted to touch on this whole 'max' thing.
People need to know there are 30 teams in the league.
This year most have the capability to give someone 'max' this year (as a result of the increased salary cap). The same will happen next year as the cap will increase again.

That means many others other than LeBron and Durant will be available to be had. If you want to attract them to your team, one of the things that your team can do is offer the incentive of a max contract.

If someone wants to complain about anyone getting a max contract, then what you really should be complaining about is someone like LeBron or Durant getting a 'capped' contract...but of course you wouldn't ACTUALLY complain about that...
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Re: Wizards Preparing Max Offer To Joakim Noah 

Post#20 » by ADDinChicago » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:28 pm

LOL but why?

This is what happens with a bad CBA and an exploding cap. Wizards won't be the only ones bleeding money because they feel they must

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