Re: Bucks Remain Interested In Trading Greg Monroe

Post #1 » by **RealGM Wiretap** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:24 pm

The Milwaukee Bucks continue to be interested in trading away Greg Monroe. Monroe is on a $17.14 million salary and has an opt-out clause for 17-18 with his salary of $17.88 million if he opts in.

Monroe was signed by the Bucks during the 2015 offseason but he has struggled to fit in beside Giannis Antetokounmpo and Jabari Parker.

The Bucks also have John Henson and Miles Plumlee at center signed long-term.

Via Gery Woelfel/Woelfel's Press Box

Bentley1225 · Post #2 » by **Bentley1225** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:30 pm

The issue is the Bucks haven't been featuring him and he's more and more likely to opt in next year. As a result I think there is 0 market for him unless Bucks give up another asset.

I still think Monroe/2nd round pick for Evans/Ajinca makes most sense.

Bbdub34 · Post #3 » by **Bbdub34** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:34 pm

Monroe to Phoenix
Knight to Sixers
Noel to Boston
Amir Johnson and first Rd pick via Boston to Bucks.

GoldenAntlers · Post #4 » by **GoldenAntlers** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:39 pm

Bentley1225 wrote:The issue is the Bucks haven't been featuring him and he's more and more likely to opt in next year. As a result I think there is 0 market for him unless Bucks give up another asset.

I still think Monroe/2nd round pick for Evans/Ajinca makes most sense.

Although that may be true, when he is on the floor, Monroe is playing very well and hustles on defense more this season than ever before.

spree2kawhi · Post #5 » by **spree2kawhi** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:34 pm

I wonder how he'd look next to Porzingis

Carmelo · Post #6 » by **Carmelo** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:45 pm

Bbdub34 wrote:Monroe to Phoenix
Knight to Sixers
Noel to Boston
Amir Johnson and first Rd pick via Boston to Bucks.

That trade sucks. Sixers give up the best piece and get worst return.

Jellybeans · Post #7 » by **Jellybeans** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:47 pm

basketboule wrote:I wonder how he'd look next to Porzingis

IF our defene now is just awful,then with Monroe it would be just 10 times worse.AND no1 will take Noah contract without draft picks or more assets

IAMZOOTED · Post #8 » by **IAMZOOTED** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:02 pm

basketboule wrote:I wonder how he'd look next to Porzingis

Terrible

Bernman · Post #9 » by **Bernman** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:10 pm

Bentley1225 wrote:The issue is the Bucks haven't been featuring him and he's more and more likely to opt in next year. As a result I think there is 0 market for him unless Bucks give up another asset.

I still think Monroe/2nd round pick for Evans/Ajinca makes most sense.

There's a lot of group think, confirmation bias, and ignorance on Monroe. He's having a very good season off the bench for the Bucks. His Roland Rating (PER differential and +/- weighted and combined) is like top 20 or 30 in the NBA at nearly +10. Those #'s are only updated through the 17th, but I think it's actually went up since then. Their last charted number had the Bucks at +7.8 per 48 with Monroe on the floor vs. -1.8 off the floor. It's a parroted myth that he's somehow entrenched as a losing player. So you actually have to give up an asset to acquire Monroe (and if he opts in that may even be looked at as a positive). If not, the Bucks will just stand pat, and possibly can have him as a trump card against small ball teams in the playoffs or in general as the 6th man. This report came from Gery Woelfel anyways. He's not one of the more credible reporters on the NBA.

SMTBSI · Post #10 » by **SMTBSI** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:57 pm

Bernman wrote:So you actually have to give up an asset to acquire Monroe (and if he opts in that may even be looked at as a positive). If not, the Bucks will just stand pat, and possibly can have him as a trump card against small ball teams in the playoffs or in general as the 6th man. This report came from Gery Woelfel anyways. He's not one of the more credible reporters on the NBA.

You may be right. If that's the case, then it just boils down to MIL keeping Monroe, and we can all move on.

Triple 7 · Post #11 » by **Triple 7** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:12 pm

Bbdub34 wrote:Monroe to Phoenix
Knight to Sixers
Noel to Boston
Amir Johnson and first Rd pick via Boston to Bucks.

You missed the part of this story where the Bucks have a roster full of big men.

Triple 7 · Post #12 » by **Triple 7** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:16 pm

IAMZOOTED wrote:
basketboule wrote:I wonder how he'd look next to Porzingis

Terrible

Greg Monroe is currently 7th in the NBA among centers in Box Plus/Minus (BPM) at 4.1. Monroe's 4.1 would rank #1 overall on the Knicks. http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/2017.html#all_advanced

kenwood3333 · Post #13 » by **kenwood3333** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:41 pm

how does he compare to mozgov?

IAMZOOTED · Post #14 » by **IAMZOOTED** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:52 pm

Triple 7 wrote:
IAMZOOTED wrote:
basketboule wrote:I wonder how he'd look next to Porzingis

Terrible

Greg Monroe is currently 7th in the NBA among centers in Box Plus/Minus (BPM) at 4.1. Monroe's 4.1 would rank #1 overall on the Knicks. http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/2017.html#all_advanced

Cool. That doesn't mean he'd be a good fit

Fresh360Waves · Post #15 » by **Fresh360Waves** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:06 pm

Triple 7 wrote:
Bbdub34 wrote:Monroe to Phoenix
Knight to Sixers
Noel to Boston
Amir Johnson and first Rd pick via Boston to Bucks.

You missed the part of this story where the Bucks have a roster full of big men.

Amir is an expiring contract tho. If anything Milwaukee can either cut Amir and save some money or trade him again to a contender for a pick.

Fresh360Waves · Post #16 » by **Fresh360Waves** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:16 pm

Bbdub34 wrote:Monroe to Phoenix
Knight to Sixers
Noel to Boston
Amir Johnson and first Rd pick via Boston to Bucks.

Not a bad trade to me. Only thing is, Phoenix would have way too many big men. Chandler, Chriss, Bender, Len, etc all need minutes. Monroe can't play the 4.

Fresh360Waves · Post #17 » by **Fresh360Waves** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:18 pm

kenwood3333 wrote:how does he compare to mozgov?

Definitely much better on offense than Mozgov.

NatiboyB · Post #18 » by **NatiboyB** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:31 pm

I'm convinced Monroe may as well just go ahead and opt-in to his option for next season.

eathb_au · Post #19 » by **eathb_au** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:53 pm

Denver has cap space to absorb Monroe's salary.

So Monroe + Milwaukee 1st for a TE.

Triple 7 · Post #20 » by **Triple 7** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:54 pm

IAMZOOTED wrote:
Triple 7 wrote:
IAMZOOTED wrote:
Terrible

Greg Monroe is currently 7th in the NBA among centers in Box Plus/Minus (BPM) at 4.1. Monroe's 4.1 would rank #1 overall on the Knicks. http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/2017.html#all_advanced

Cool. That doesn't mean he'd be a good fit

Ok, tell me why he would be a bad fit. The onus is on you.