NBA Gamble wrote:KnightofHyrule wrote:Name an East team outside of LeBron teams that have been more "significant" in the last 4 years? Celtics? Wizards? Bulls? Pistons? Hornets? Cavs before LeBron? Heat after LeBron?....Philly? Lol okay. Each of those teams missed the playoffs AT LEAST once.
The Hawks are the only East Team that have a longer active playoff streak than the Raptors, and IMO they have better over the last 3 1/2 years. Only 5 West teams have had a longer playoff streak than Toronto.
So yeah, almost every other East team, and more than half of the West has been less significant over the past 3 1/2 seasons. Rather be Toronto than Denver or Sacramento.....or Brooklyn.....or Phoenix.....or Minnesota....or Portland.....or the dumpster fire in NYC.....
You overachieve for half a season. Maybe a full one if your EXTREMELY lucky. But 3 1/2 seasons? Get outta here with that lol.
There was no too many significant teams in the East in the last few years, so what? whats your point?
Infact thats why Toronto overachieved, weak competition, so you answered your own confusion. For few years they played in the weakest division in the history of the NBA. Now the East is coming alive, more and more teams are becoming serious about winning therefore its really not a surprise that Toronto is struggling. Lots of teams are simply getting better.
The best days for that team is behind them.
What are you talking about? In 2014 the East was waaaay better. Hawks were on the come-up...took a great Pacers team to 7 games, Brooklyn swept the seasons series against Miami, and Washington and Chicago were both better than they are now.
And the division argument is stupid. It only means you play 3 games against 1 team in each of the other divisions. If Raptors were in the Central, they would have 1 more game against the Pacers, and 1 less against Boston. What's the difference? At best 1 extra win for Toronto. At WORSE, 1 extra loss.
And I already pointed out all the competition in the West has struggled against Toronto. During this 3 1/2 year stretch LA Clippers, Dallas, Memphis and Portland have all gotten dominated by Toronto, and even OKC was 3-3 against Toronto before KD left. This season Raps beat them easily. Golden State is the only West team that truly had Toronto's number.....and for some reason, Sacramento. San Antonio has done well against Toronto as well.
Again, you overachieve for 25 games or so....but for nearly 300? That include wins over most of the West? lol okay man whatever you say. Lowry said something's gotta change. And it did with Ibaka. So Raps will probably go back to 'overachieving' now.
CLW wrote:That would be called building a contending team - gradually continuing to improve until you hit your end goal.
Exactly lol.