Warriors Have Luxury Tax Concerns On Andre Iguodala's Contract

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Warriors Have Luxury Tax Concerns On Andre Iguodala's Contract 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:29 pm

The Golden State Warriors have luxury tax concerns in re-signing Andre Iguodala this offseason.


Joe Lacob and ownership have been running one of the NBA's most profitable teams and the Warriors have their core signed to below fair market value contracts.


Iguodala is open to leaving the Warriors and plans to field offers beginning immediately on July 1st.

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Re: Warriors Have Luxury Tax Concerns On Andre Iguodala's Contract 

Post#2 » by cmfreeman » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:35 pm

The reason he was so effective for us is because he played 25MPG. If someone signs him to a 15-20 Million per years deal they're going to expect starter minutes, which he won't be able to do for a full season+playoffs. Dre is smart to get that money from his last lucrative contract, however, I feel that the Warriors would be foolish to pay him that much money to be a 6th man.
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Post#3 » by hyberx » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:49 pm

cmfreeman wrote:The reason he was so effective for us is because he played 25MPG. If someone signs him to a 15-20 Million per years deal they're going to expect starter minutes, which he won't be able to do for a full season+playoffs. Dre is smart to get that money from his last lucrative contract, however, I feel that the Warriors would be foolish to pay him that much money to be a 6th man.

Agreed.

Lacob is never cheap and has a deep pocket, just look at that $1B+ stadium that is being built and did not require any public money and these 2nd rounders he paid $2-3 Mil for. He has no problem digging into the Luxury Tax to keep this championship team. However, if anyone is offering 15-20 Mil for Iggy long term, even as good as he is, they can feel free to have him.

Whether we keep Iggy or not, a good replacement/add on would be good old 40yr old Vince Carter. Dude still have a lot of basketball in him and would be great off the bench in the Ws system. Vinsanity can be that point forward on offense for sure. Even if defensively not nearly as good as Iggy, VC still got a respectable RPM playing for the defense minded Grizz last few years.
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Re: Warriors Have Luxury Tax Concerns On Andre Iguodala's Contract 

Post#4 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:54 pm

cmfreeman wrote:The reason he was so effective for us is because he played 25MPG. If someone signs him to a 15-20 Million per years deal they're going to expect starter minutes, which he won't be able to do for a full season+playoffs. Dre is smart to get that money from his last lucrative contract, however, I feel that the Warriors would be foolish to pay him that much money to be a 6th man.

Think you underselling Dre. He can be a better tony Allen type of starter on a lot of teams. An extra 4 minutes a night isn't changing that.
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Post#5 » by Karate Diop » Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:22 pm

hyberx wrote:
cmfreeman wrote:The reason he was so effective for us is because he played 25MPG. If someone signs him to a 15-20 Million per years deal they're going to expect starter minutes, which he won't be able to do for a full season+playoffs. Dre is smart to get that money from his last lucrative contract, however, I feel that the Warriors would be foolish to pay him that much money to be a 6th man.

Agreed.

Lacob is never cheap and has a deep pocket, just look at that $1B+ stadium that is being built and did not require any public money and these 2nd rounders he paid $2-3 Mil for. He has no problem digging into the Luxury Tax to keep this championship team. However, if anyone is offering 15-20 Mil for Iggy long term, even as good as he is, they can feel free to have him.

Whether we keep Iggy or not, a good replacement/add on would be good old 40yr old Vince Carter. Dude still have a lot of basketball in him and would be great off the bench in the Ws system. Vinsanity can be that point forward on offense for sure. Even if defensively not nearly as good as Iggy, VC still got a respectable RPM playing for the defense minded Grizz last few years.


I think it's less about being cheap and more about concerns of getting locked into the repeater tax which will significantly affect their flexibility going forward.
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Post#6 » by We Are Groot » Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:26 pm

Wasabi_Johnson wrote:Think you underselling Dre. He can be a better tony Allen type of starter on a lot of teams. An extra 4 minutes a night isn't changing that.


agree 100% w/this take - i think role will play a bigger factor w/regard to his effectiveness than mins.

any1 else feel like Dre & Manu comn off the Spurs bench would be a wondrous, joyous thing to behold?

would love to see it, but sadly i feel like he might end up with the Clips. they'd be pretty scary defensively w/DJ & Beverly (and Mbah Moute if he re-signs), but the other side of the ball would need ALOT of work
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Re: Warriors Have Luxury Tax Concerns On Andre Iguodala's Contract 

Post#7 » by likashing » Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:34 pm

So according to Shams Lacob is cheap like Sterling... Shams has it all wrong.

Lacob's concern is not the lux tax, it is paying lux tax for Iguodala (3 year contract instead of 2) in 2019-20 when he is 36. In 19-20, the lux tax and cap space are more important for other players when Iguodala is 36. They cannot pay Iguodala $15-$20m in 19-20 if they want field a top team.

The negotiation is about contract length.
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Post#8 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:56 pm

cmfreeman wrote:The reason he was so effective for us is because he played 25MPG. If someone signs him to a 15-20 Million per years deal they're going to expect starter minutes, which he won't be able to do for a full season+playoffs. Dre is smart to get that money from his last lucrative contract, however, I feel that the Warriors would be foolish to pay him that much money to be a 6th man.


So who is the Warriors 6th man going to be? There bench isn't very good.
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Post#9 » by ArtistNBA » Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:03 pm

Iggy play a key role in the fourth, gsw losing a key piece lol
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Post#10 » by MegaK » Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:32 pm

Dre's been a key guy in each championship GSW have won. He was the MVP of the first one and played a key role off the bench. Without him it will be a lot harder for them to repeat. Kerr says whenever a game seems to not be going in GSW favor, he puts Dre out there to level everything off and make the right plays. His value is right up there with
their starters.
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Post#11 » by Sam195 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:35 pm

hyberx wrote:
cmfreeman wrote:The reason he was so effective for us is because he played 25MPG. If someone signs him to a 15-20 Million per years deal they're going to expect starter minutes, which he won't be able to do for a full season+playoffs. Dre is smart to get that money from his last lucrative contract, however, I feel that the Warriors would be foolish to pay him that much money to be a 6th man.

Agreed.

Lacob is never cheap and has a deep pocket, just look at that $1B+ stadium that is being built and did not require any public money and these 2nd rounders he paid $2-3 Mil for. He has no problem digging into the Luxury Tax to keep this championship team. However, if anyone is offering 15-20 Mil for Iggy long term, even as good as he is, they can feel free to have him.

Whether we keep Iggy or not, a good replacement/add on would be good old 40yr old Vince Carter. Dude still have a lot of basketball in him and would be great off the bench in the Ws system. Vinsanity can be that point forward on offense for sure. Even if defensively not nearly as good as Iggy, VC still got a respectable RPM playing for the defense minded Grizz last few years.


The Warriors can offer iggy a 5 year deal with a lower annual salary but more guaranteed money overall in his so called last lucrative contract. Warriors are hoping he takes a hometown discount to win as well. The warriors are also yet to sell their jersey patch rights which was apparently going for 20M/season before they signed Durant and won a title. I figure some large Silcon Valley Tech company will bid for it and may set a record price - the jersey rights for warriors is probably worth more than double the previous ask. There were rumors that Walmart owned Jet.com - a competitor to amazon was interested and it's probably more appealing now since Amazon is entering Walmart's main retail and grocery business after it's Whole Foods Purchase. The naming rights for the Warriors new arena has also not been auctioned off. These two forms of substantial revenue will further deepen Lacob's pockets to spend on the Warriors. And I'm not even sure when the Warriors local tv deal is up for renegotiation cause with the attention they draw in California alone they should be able to demand a lakers sized deal 120M+/year. There is a revenue sharing factor in the nba but it does not force the kind of parity you see in nfl and nhl.
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Post#12 » by Arp590 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:05 pm

Hopefully he signs somewhere else, this would be a HUGE blow to the Warrior's.
Would definitely help even the playing field a little bit next year versus the Cavs.
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Post#13 » by dan-man » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:30 pm

Again, all this press is nothing more than Iggy agent spewage - he aint going anywhere. his body can not hold up to a typical NBA season. He needs the Warriors more than they need him as he won't be able to live up to big contract expectations anywhere else. He's about 74% of Andre 4 years ago and its dropping fast.
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Post#14 » by Yao4REAL » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:34 pm

Arp590 wrote:Hopefully he signs somewhere else, this would be a HUGE blow to the Warrior's.
Would definitely help even the playing field a little bit next year versus the Cavs.


He's going no where bro. Iggy is a friend of KD and Draymond Green and they been hanging out and he play a huge part in recruiting KD. Why would he wants to leave something good on the table. Second of all, KD is offering sacrifice some of his money.
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Post#15 » by Arp590 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:36 pm

Yao4REAL wrote:
Arp590 wrote:Hopefully he signs somewhere else, this would be a HUGE blow to the Warrior's.
Would definitely help even the playing field a little bit next year versus the Cavs.


He's going no where bro. Iggy is a friend of KD and Draymond Green and they been hanging out and he play a huge part in recruiting KD. Why would he wants to leave something good on the table. Second of all, KD is offering sacrifice some of his money.

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Post#16 » by Pukovnik » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:42 pm

Yao4REAL wrote:
Arp590 wrote:Hopefully he signs somewhere else, this would be a HUGE blow to the Warrior's.
Would definitely help even the playing field a little bit next year versus the Cavs.


He's going no where bro. Iggy is a friend of KD and Draymond Green and they been hanging out and he play a huge part in recruiting KD. Why would he wants to leave something good on the table. Second of all, KD is offering sacrifice some of his money.


The only thing NBA players love more then winning is money. Even though Igoudala already earned more money he can spend in a couple of lifetimes, he wants his final big contract.
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Post#17 » by tallassmike » Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:03 pm

Arp590 wrote:Hopefully he signs somewhere else, this would be a HUGE blow to the Warrior's.
Would definitely help even the playing field a little bit next year versus the Cavs.



:D Level up the playing field to the next overly stacked team in the league
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Post#18 » by haste10176 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:00 am

tallassmike wrote:
Arp590 wrote:Hopefully he signs somewhere else, this would be a HUGE blow to the Warrior's.
Would definitely help even the playing field a little bit next year versus the Cavs.



:D Level up the playing field to the next overly stacked team in the league


Just going to ask how are the cavs overly stacked? Kyrie and Love never won before Lebron but yeah 3 all stars any difference to Boston with Garnett, Pierce and Ray Allen you can throw in Rondo too? If you want to say the bench is great Kyle Korver was on a 5 mill contract with Atlanta and under performed in finals and Deron Williams scored like 2 points and was a joke so there bench is crap.. They traded for JR and Iman Shumpert from the losing New York knicks noone wanted them and yes they overpaid for JR after winning the championship.. Tristan Thompson was a non factor in the finals except for one game and is also over paid... Tell me again how they are stacked vs say Clippers before just losing CP3 they had CP3, Deandrea and Blake Griffin 3 all stars.. Then Spurs Tony Parker, Kawhi Leonard and Manu... and if you go back not to long ago Tim Duncan so spurs actually had a big 4 for a while and they were a winning team not long ago.. The cavs are not overly stacked they are just ahead because of LBJ.. GSW on the other hand is the most stacked team in the history of the NBA... a 73-9 win team adds the second best player in the NBA.. They have 4 x prime all stars 1 x NBA finals MVP they have real contributers off the bench in livingston and west.. In the finals it is actually the cavs bench that cost them any chance of victory they sucked.. The cavs bench is not stacked they have 3 all stars and in the finals Kyrie and Kevin love went missing at times.. Cavs are the normal good team where as GSW are the ridiculously stacked team.. Geez MJ's Bulls were far more stacked than the Cavs team but still not close to GSW....
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Re: Warriors Have Luxury Tax Concerns On Andre Iguodala's Contract 

Post#19 » by haste10176 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:06 am

Andrea gone is a decent first blow to the warriors list hopefully someone prys him away.. His defence off the bench is fantastic and he can score and rebound he really should be 6th man of the year he is more versatile.. You need to weaken GSW piece by piece or at least make them overpay and offer more years and be stuck with Iggy and then when Klay and Dray come up be in a bit of a bind..
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Re: Warriors Have Luxury Tax Concerns On Andre Iguodala's Contract 

Post#20 » by macNcheese3 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:40 am

He could take a pay cut to come back to GSW- but hope he leaves which is more likely than not.

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