Andre Roberson Agrees To Three-Year, $30M Deal With Thunder

Post #1 » by **RealGM Wiretap** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 3:21 am

Andre Roberson has agreed upon a three-year, $30 million contract to re-sign with the Oklahoma City Thunder.

Roberson could have signed a four-year deal with the Thunder, but he preferred getting back onto the open market at a younger age. Roberson was a restricted free agent.

Roberson was an All-Defensive second team choice in 2017.

Roberson was the 26th overall pick to the Thunder in the 2013 NBA Draft.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/ESPN

Biscayne Beast · Post #2 » by **Biscayne Beast** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 3:42 am

solid deal

Pickled Prunes · Post #3 » by **Pickled Prunes** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 4:16 am

They should have let him sign an offer sheet and matched it. This has to be above market for a SG that can't shoot.

Sam195 · Post #4 » by **Sam195** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 5:03 am

Pickled Prunes wrote:They should have let him sign an offer sheet and matched it. This has to be above market for a SG that can't shoot.

Well he could have signed his qualifying offer for 1 year and become a ufa next summer and get paid even more. We live in an nba world where Otto Porter Jr is about to sign the largest offer sheet in league history at 4 years 106M.

Sam195 · Post #5 » by **Sam195** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 5:39 am

This Roberson contract is a good comparable to how much the celtics should offer Marcus Smart in a rookie extension. I think Celtics are more likely to trade Bradley to clear cap room to sign Hayward than Crowder who is on a bargain contract and Smart whose rfa rights they own next summer.

foreigngrammar · Post #6 » by **foreigngrammar** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 7:14 am

Not bad for a guy who can't really play basketball

macNcheese3 · Post #7 » by **macNcheese3** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 9:55 am

foreigngrammar wrote:Not bad for a guy who can't really play basketball

He's a glaring hole on offense. He bricked so many layups it wasn't even funny. Him and Patterson should be the brick bros.

12footrim · Post #8 » by **12footrim** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 12:37 pm

Pickled Prunes wrote:They should have let him sign an offer sheet and matched it. This has to be above market for a SG that can't shoot.

Being versatile enough to play SG and 2 other positions has value as well as guard all 5 positions but SG is where he is miscast the most. Eventually his home should be more PF. There is offense is much less of an issue. Even if he could only improve his 3 point shooting to 32% which isn't crazy he would be an extremely valuable player then. It's not a bad signing at all.

I think he still has 3 point upside and FT upside to improve.

I don't know what happen to him with FT's but he was .563% in his NBA career before last year and .582% in college so I would treat his trouble last year as the outlier on FT's.

He was also a 35% three point shooter from the college line in a high volume.

Bobalob · Post #9 » by **Bobalob** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 1:03 pm

12footrim wrote:
Pickled Prunes wrote:They should have let him sign an offer sheet and matched it. This has to be above market for a SG that can't shoot.

Being versatile enough to play SG and 2 other positions has value as well as guard all 5 positions but SG is where he is miscast the most. Eventually his home should be more PF. There is offense is much less of an issue. Even if he could only improve his 3 point shooting to 32% which isn't crazy he would be an extremely valuable player then. It's not a bad signing at all.

I think he still has 3 point upside and FT upside to improve.

I don't know what happen to him with FT's but he was .563% in his NBA career before last year and .582% in college so I would treat his trouble last year as the outlier on FT's.

He was also a 35% three point shooter from the college line in a high volume.

Dude what are you even taking about he's TERRIBLE

Too many people who have never played sports with access to sports metrics :crazy:

Forget everything you typed, this guy can't HOOP. He's TERRIBLE.

bj2323 · Post #10 » by **bj2323** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 1:06 pm

He does suck in my opinion, but the Thunder were smart to sign him. This creates another $10 million dollars over the cap hold that Presti can trade with.

12footrim · Post #11 » by **12footrim** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 1:44 pm

Bobalob wrote:
12footrim wrote:
Pickled Prunes wrote:They should have let him sign an offer sheet and matched it. This has to be above market for a SG that can't shoot.

Being versatile enough to play SG and 2 other positions has value as well as guard all 5 positions but SG is where he is miscast the most. Eventually his home should be more PF. There is offense is much less of an issue. Even if he could only improve his 3 point shooting to 32% which isn't crazy he would be an extremely valuable player then. It's not a bad signing at all.

I think he still has 3 point upside and FT upside to improve.

I don't know what happen to him with FT's but he was .563% in his NBA career before last year and .582% in college so I would treat his trouble last year as the outlier on FT's.

He was also a 35% three point shooter from the college line in a high volume.

Dude what are you even taking about he's TERRIBLE

Too many people who have never played sports with access to sports metrics

Forget everything you typed, this guy can't HOOP. He's TERRIBLE.

You mean people that actually ground their opinions in reality and back it up with evidence?

#83 Real Plus Minus in the NBA while playing over 30 minutes a game.

You can't deny is defensive abilities. He's only terrible to the simpletons.

I was a college athlete.

Bobalob · Post #12 » by **Bobalob** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 2:22 pm

12footrim wrote:
Bobalob wrote:
12footrim wrote:
Being versatile enough to play SG and 2 other positions has value as well as guard all 5 positions but SG is where he is miscast the most. Eventually his home should be more PF. There is offense is much less of an issue. Even if he could only improve his 3 point shooting to 32% which isn't crazy he would be an extremely valuable player then. It's not a bad signing at all.

I think he still has 3 point upside and FT upside to improve.

I don't know what happen to him with FT's but he was .563% in his NBA career before last year and .582% in college so I would treat his trouble last year as the outlier on FT's.

He was also a 35% three point shooter from the college line in a high volume.

Dude what are you even taking about he's TERRIBLE

Too many people who have never played sports with access to sports metrics

Forget everything you typed, this guy can't HOOP. He's TERRIBLE.

You mean people that actually ground their opinions in reality and back it up with evidence?

#83 Real Plus Minus in the NBA while playing over 30 minutes a game.

You can't deny is defensive abilities. He's only terrible to the simpletons.

I was a college athlete.

What does that even mean? So he's the 83rd best player in the league? Analytics are a tool used for research but it doesnt override the eye test. Jae Crowder is #20 in rpm. Amir Johnson is #21. Cody Zeller is #27 lol So what are you saying!?

I say all that to say this: He's TERRIBLE.

deeps6x · Post #13 » by **deeps6x** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 2:28 pm

Sam195 wrote:This Roberson contract is a good comparable to how much the celtics should offer Marcus Smart in a rookie extension. I think Celtics are more likely to trade Bradley to clear cap room to sign Hayward than Crowder who is on a bargain contract and Smart whose rfa rights they own next summer.

It is around what I expect Norman Powell to get next summer.

macNcheese3 · Post #14 » by **macNcheese3** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 2:33 pm

deeps6x wrote:
Sam195 wrote:This Roberson contract is a good comparable to how much the celtics should offer Marcus Smart in a rookie extension. I think Celtics are more likely to trade Bradley to clear cap room to sign Hayward than Crowder who is on a bargain contract and Smart whose rfa rights they own next summer.

It is around what I expect Norman Powell to get next summer.

Powell has way more upside then Roberson- both of the offensive and defensive end. He is a little undersized but I would take him over Roberson. Roberson shoots a horrendous percentage from the line, and at times just struggles to score in total. He is a defense first player and in the series vs OKC- he cost them on the offensive end big time. It wasn't worth giving up the O for the D in my opinion in his situation.

BornintheLAND · Post #15 » by **BornintheLAND** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 2:42 pm

Wow........$10 mil a year and he can't make a freakin foul shot!!!!

12footrim · Post #16 » by **12footrim** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 2:51 pm

Bobalob wrote:
12footrim wrote:
Bobalob wrote:
Dude what are you even taking about he's TERRIBLE

Too many people who have never played sports with access to sports metrics

Forget everything you typed, this guy can't HOOP. He's TERRIBLE.

You mean people that actually ground their opinions in reality and back it up with evidence?

#83 Real Plus Minus in the NBA while playing over 30 minutes a game.

You can't deny is defensive abilities. He's only terrible to the simpletons.

I was a college athlete.

What does that even mean? So he's the 83rd best player in the league? Analytics are a tool used for research but it doesnt override the eye test. Jae Crowder is #20 in rpm. Amir Johnson is #21. Cody Zeller is #27 lol So what are you saying!?

I say all that to say this: He's TERRIBLE.

That's your opinion. Roberson was 2nd team All Defense in the NBA. Clearly a lot of other people disagree.

Crowder got some All Star consideration and is considered one of the best contracts in the NBA that many teams are trying to trade for.

and Cody Zeller. Zeller obviously is very important to the Hornets success.

The hornets were 3-17 when he didn't play, 33-29 when he did.

Perhaps there is more truth in these sorts of things than not? Just a thought, hey but you back your opinions up with well your opinion. Clearly all three of these guys contributed to winning teams when they played.

Roberson had a nice playoffs as well

11.6ppg
6.2 rpg
1.8apg
2.4 spg
3.4 bpg
.522% FG %
.412% 3's (1.4 made per game)

The ONLY thing that you can point to that says he was terrible was his FT shooting and even with that in the grand scheme he had a respectable .522 true shooting. Again he was .570% FT shooter through all his college and previous nba years which is bad but not the end of the world. This year's FT shooting was more of the outlier when compared to hundreds more attempts in basketball. Believe what you want.

gold0259 · Post #17 » by **gold0259** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 3:28 pm

30 million and can't make a free throw

Bobalob · Post #18 » by **Bobalob** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 4:00 pm

The problem isnt the money...its the fact he starts and plays those types of minutes. Iman Shumpert is a comparable defender who gets half the amount of minutes AND hits his 3's

12footrim · Post #19 » by **12footrim** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 4:29 pm

Bobalob wrote:The problem isnt the money...its the fact he starts and plays those types of minutes. Iman Shumpert is a comparable defender who gets half the amount of minutes AND hits his 3's

So this is another one of your opinions that doesn't comport with reality

Defensive RPM

#25 Roberson (#1 SG)
#237 Shumpert

12footrim · Post #20 » by **12footrim** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 4:32 pm

gold0259 wrote:30 million and can't make a free throw

So? He shoots a whole 1.4 a game in 30+ minutes.

Again up until last year through college and the NBA he was over 57% from the line. That's bad but it's not the end of the world bad.

He had a .510 true shooting last year. There have been much worse.