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Seemingly no character in that family at all. I had hopes, but that seals it. There must be a reason phonies always seem to find phony friends.
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10 worst officiated games in league history! That sounds interesting... oh wait, only up to May 2012. It doesn't even include LBJ's fake Heat win to 'keep the streak alive' over the Raptors. Oh the league got months of positive press out of that 'come from so far behind' win. I'm sure there have been other sham wins since then, maybe even a few would make a current top ten list.
Also, Ball's opinion? WGAF? Totally agree he is just sucking LBJ's little **** to get him to come to the Lakers.
Also, Ball's opinion? WGAF? Totally agree he is just sucking LBJ's little **** to get him to come to the Lakers.
ChokeFasncists wrote:Dr Huge Pecs wrote:SleepingDragon wrote:Lonzo is just doing his best to get Lebron to sign with the Lakers by 2018.
Its not even #2 all time. Everyone's arguing about the best player in the last 15 years.
Lebron hid in the east had teams built for him..has a losing record in the finals.
Kobe has more rings...but was given a pass in Sacramento one year.
Lbj was given a pass vs gsw.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1173800-10-worst-officiated-games-in-nba-history-could-the-nba-really-be-rigged
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This isn't even debatable. Kobe can't hold Lebron's jock strap.
There is a gap the size of the grand canyon between them in terms of production. Sure Kobe has more rings, but that's irrelevant. Basketball is a team sport. Opponent strength is not the same in each era either. Kobe won 3 rings playing alongside one of the greatest players of all time (Shaq), and then another two during a weak era.
He was a good player, but statistically, he wasn't even close to Lebron.
There is a gap the size of the grand canyon between them in terms of production. Sure Kobe has more rings, but that's irrelevant. Basketball is a team sport. Opponent strength is not the same in each era either. Kobe won 3 rings playing alongside one of the greatest players of all time (Shaq), and then another two during a weak era.
He was a good player, but statistically, he wasn't even close to Lebron.
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draftnightsuit wrote:Everybody knows that Lebron is better than Kobe in every way. He has more rings because he rode Shaq's coattails.
Kobe is a glorified Vince Carter who was lucky enough to be drafted by the Lakers.
It's funny because you really know your basketball. So you know, Kobe was draft by the HORNETS. then traded.
I guess you're going to say Wade rode shaq's coattail too. Thats why after the breakup shaq has 1 ring and kobe had 2. And Kobe won his rings without leaving His first and only team. So yeah lebron is better, going to someone elses team to win his first 2. LoL
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Lebron is not even on Kobe's level. Kobe's an Assassin!!
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Slow news day, eh?
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Kobe can no longer play for the LAKERS. LeBron can. LeBron can play as soon as next year. Well done my boy Zo, well done. I see what your doin
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How does a kid who grew up a Lakers fan have LeBron as his favorite player during his childhood?
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Lonzo was 3 years old when Kobe won his first championship. Even I don't necessarily disagree I still don't really care what he thinks.
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f33lsogood wrote:draftnightsuit wrote:Everybody knows that Lebron is better than Kobe in every way. He has more rings because he rode Shaq's coattails.
Kobe is a glorified Vince Carter who was lucky enough to be drafted by the Lakers.
It's funny because you really know your basketball. So you know, Kobe was draft by the HORNETS. then traded.
I guess you're going to say Wade rode shaq's coattail too. Thats why after the breakup shaq has 1 ring and kobe had 2. And Kobe won his rings without leaving His first and only team. So yeah lebron is better, going to someone elses team to win his first 2. LoL
Comparing Vince to Kobe was silly... but to be fair, without Shaq, Kobe has 2 rings. And without Memphis gifting the Lakers Pau Kobe might not have won those last two. And yes, Wade was the second best player on all of his championship teams. So to his point; circumstance is everything.
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LaRance wrote:Lebron is not even on Kobe's level. Kobe's an Assassin!!
Kobe was a volume shooter with a good system around him and the elite tall men to clean up his mess.. The only thing going for Kobe over the other volume shooters in the league is that he was an elite defender..
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basketboule wrote:draftnightsuit wrote:Everybody knows that Lebron is better than Kobe in every way. He has more rings because he road Shaq's coattails.
Kobe is a glorified Vince Carter who was lucky enough to be drafted by the Lakers.
You literally don't seem know even the basic history of NBA basketball. How old are you? Hit the rode.
Shaq three NBA MVPS.. Shaq is a better player than Kobe.. Kobe is not even a good shooter he was a volume shooter with Shaq cleaning up his mess.. Yeah he rode Shaq to championship wins..
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JWASH112 wrote:draftnightsuit wrote:Everybody knows that Lebron is better than Kobe in every way. He has more rings because he road Shaq's coattails.
Kobe is a glorified Vince Carter who was lucky enough to be drafted by the Lakers.
If you average over 30 a game, you aint riding nobodies coattails.
Right if you just keep shooting you might average over 30 a game.. But Kobe did not average 30 per game he averaged 25... LBJ has Kobe beaten in every category.. 3 finals MVPS to 2 Finals MVPS.. He beats him in points per game.. assists per game.. rebounds per game.. He beats Kobe in playoff and finals points per game.. rebounds per game.. assists per game.. He smashes Kobe in shooting percentage.. There is literally not one thing Kobe is close to LBJ on..
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haste10176 wrote:LaRance wrote:Lebron is not even on Kobe's level. Kobe's an Assassin!!
Kobe was a volume shooter with a good system around him and the elite tall men to clean up his mess.. The only thing going for Kobe over the other volume shooters in the league is that he was an elite defender..
actually, he wasn't. career* NPI RAPM rank (actual on-court impact on winning, no box score data):
60.44 duncan (17.88 offense/42.54 defense) [no data on first 3 seasons, all prime years - projects to around 75 career total]
~65 shaq (25.59 recorded, first 8 seasons missing, all prime)
63.44 lebron (47.60o/15.84d)
57.21 dirk (44.63o/12.58d)
53.51 KG (15.17o/38.35d) [missing 1st prime season]
40.17 cp3 (31.02o/9.15d) [projected on a dirk/KG level for career if remains healthy]
26.09 kidd (12.01o/14.08d) [first 6 seasons missing, projection to 40+ total]
36.65 nash (39.38o/-2.74d)
29.09 kobe (32.35o/-4.06d)
27.70 ray (30.49o/-2.79d) [missing 1 prime season]
37.40 ginobili (24.88o/12.52d) [adjust down for minute played]
25.12 parker (12.98o/12.14d)
24.40 vince (13.59o/10.81d) [missing 1st prime season]
24.04 pierce (13.25o/10.79d)
23.25 wade (20.81o/2.44d)
20.63 bosh (10.99o/9.64d)
18.89 dwight (3.02o/15.87d)
18.00 tmac (16.83o/1.17d)
17.69 big ben (-4.24o/21.93d)
16.07 billups (17.71o/-1.64d)
8.64 AI (4.25o/4.39d) [first 4 seasons missing, project close to 15 total]
10.96 deron (14.96o/-4.00d)
9.09 melo (16.28o/-7.09d) [sliding for 3 seasons, crossed into negative territory this past season]
*data unavailable prior to 2000-2001 season, which happened to coincide w/ the start of the primes of several players, including kobe, pierce, dirk, tmac and nash
kobe was unequivocally NOT one of the top 7 players of his generation (lebron, duncan, shaq, dirk, KG, cp3, kidd all clearly better). defense severely overrated, as is his clutch ability (lots of bad misses, turnovers, whining to the refs)
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JWASH112 wrote:draftnightsuit wrote:Everybody knows that Lebron is better than Kobe in every way. He has more rings because he road Shaq's coattails.
Kobe is a glorified Vince Carter who was lucky enough to be drafted by the Lakers.
If you average over 30 a game, you aint riding nobodies coattails.
when he was averaging over 30 his teams averaged 46 wins. when kobe is shooting that much it's not a good sign for a team. over 5 championship seasons he averaged 26 (27 in playoffs)
no, he didn't ride shaq's coattails, but he was certainly robin to shaq's batman. much like pippen was robin to MJ's batman
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shawn_hemp wrote:are we really gonna have a news article every time someone says they'd rank ___ ahead of ___?
It's called an opinion, everyone is entitled to one. It's not like he said he'd take some journeyman all star over Kobe
I would say I can't wait for the season to start so these questions stop being reported as news but it doesn't seem to slow down during the season either (a la 2016-2017 Warriors vs Any Great Team Ever)
And I'm the idiot who clicks on the article every time XDDr Huge Pecs wrote:SleepingDragon wrote:Lonzo is just doing his best to get Lebron to sign with the Lakers by 2018.
Its not even #2 all time. Everyone's arguing about the best player in the last 15 years.
Lebron hid in the east had teams built for him..has a losing record in the finals.
Kobe has more rings...but was given a pass in Sacramento one year.
Lbj was given a pass vs gsw.
Fine.... kobe makes it into top 5 of all time...maybe.
Theyre both top 10. Oh and kobe nor lebron are clutch shooters...or even clutch players really. Ill find you 5 guys more clutch than both of them in the league off the top of my head.
V carter
D lillard
Curry
Green
Durant
Igudala
Ginobili
Kyrie
I thomas
D wade
Sorry 10
Clutch /= taking the last shot
It's about making a play when your team needs it the most, when the stakes are at their highest (I.E. playoffs)
If Iggy was more clutch than LeBron than he would have made that layup in Game 7 of the 2016 Finals
Vince Carter missed a buzzer beater in Game 7 of the ECSF in 2001
You can pick and choose individual moments of failure but you can just as easily pick and choose moments of success.
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haste10176 wrote:JWASH112 wrote:draftnightsuit wrote:Everybody knows that Lebron is better than Kobe in every way. He has more rings because he road Shaq's coattails.
Kobe is a glorified Vince Carter who was lucky enough to be drafted by the Lakers.
If you average over 30 a game, you aint riding nobodies coattails.
Right if you just keep shooting you might average over 30 a game.. But Kobe did not average 30 per game he averaged 25... LBJ has Kobe beaten in every category.. 3 finals MVPS to 2 Finals MVPS.. He beats him in points per game.. assists per game.. rebounds per game.. He beats Kobe in playoff and finals points per game.. rebounds per game.. assists per game.. He smashes Kobe in shooting percentage.. There is literally not one thing Kobe is close to LBJ on..
I get it. You hate Kobe. Feel free to not quote me any longer.
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A rookie with no NBA experience is being asking an awful lot of questions.