Kemba Walker Made Available In Trade Talks By Hornets

[macNcheese3]

Trading for Dwight was a horrible move. If he couldn’t get it done at home in ATL like he said he would.

[cheese318]

You are the reason why the NYK are where they are at over the last 17 years. Finally we are doing the right thing and you just want to blow it up for a undersized SG. Kemba is a solid player but by no means will he bring the NYK to the title level you covet. Frank is literally one of the youngest dudes in the league. He’s a defensive wiz for the time he is playing and his offensive game is slowly going to show up. You understand he barely gets any plays called for him at this point on he offense side which I admit maybe he doesn’t deserve yet as he needs to improve the jumper but it’s hard to justify a value on someone so early in his career. Wise up and see the Knicks are building the right way finally. THJ was an odd signing this offseason but we have some big deal for three years regardless and he is a solid player to have with KP for the next few years. Singing Kemba longterm would be an awful decision for the NYK

As a Knick fan I would love to see him in the Garden because I am quite frankly not a fan of this rebuild the Knicks are doing. They are all over the place, they don't know if they want to compete for the playoffs or are they rebuilding. I like Frank Ntilikina, he will be solid but he will never be the offensive option the Knicks will need to get to the next level.

The Knicks need to realize they need to convince Porzingis they are trying to win, Porzingis is a franchise player and they can't afford to lose him. Kemba Walker would instantly make the Knicks a top 10 offense, he would open up the floor for Porzingis and take an immense amount of pressure off him. I would move Frank,Willy, and that lottery pick for Kemba Walker and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist.

Walker-Hardaway Jr-Kidd-Gilchrist-Porzingis-Kanter

Now that is a formidable starting 5 which would be in the playoffs year after year and KP will be sure to stay.

[cheese318]

Dwight has rebuilt his value. Just playing in the wrong era as he is a glut on a team wanting to shoot threes from every position. I think this is his best season in years and ATL didn’t know how to use him at all last year

Trading for Dwight was a horrible move. If he couldn’t get it done at home in ATL like he said he would.

[DCRYsing89]

Spurs would be intruiging
MKG, Dwight and Kemba
For
Dejounte Murray, Kyle Anderson maybe derrick white to, and 1st, 2nd round picks if needed

Spurs look like (healthy)
Walker
Green
Leonard
Aldridge
Dwight
With solid depth

Dunno about money situation, maybe one of mills, green or co. Have to be included and other contracts renegotiated to make money work.

But this gives SAS more depth and gives hornets youth and a quick reset. Win-win

Dont see it happening because of money, and spurs dont have to much to offer.

[ontnut]

Kemba will end up in San Antonio and take over the reigns from Parker. Calling it now. Pop will take this guy to the next level. Would be devastated to see him leave Charlotte though

Interesting thought. Maybe a Walker to SAS, Aldridge to 3rd team, ??? to Charlotte would get it done.

The Spurs could then make a couple more moves to get Gasol & Mills off their books to make space to sign LeBron. They could have a Walker/Green/Leonard/Gay/LeBron death lineup. Who comes out of the West at that point?

Don't see any team giving up much for LMA, even though he's an all-star. His contract isn't particularly attractive to a contender. SA already said they're not trading him unless they get back someone like KD, so...

[ChokeFasncists]

Man, the best plan became the worst plan. (it worked for a short while tho)

2 years ago, the Hornets signed Lin to perhaps replace Kemba and signed Batum to try to compliment Kemba. Turned out Lin played well, Kemba had a career year, and Batum/Kemba were a very good tandem. That team was tied at no.3 in the East and almost got out of the first round.

They retained Kemba, maxed out Batum and couldn't re-sign Lin.

Now all is lost. Sigh......

[skulky]

It's always a "joy" seeing trade proposals involving the lakers of another teams best player. It never disappoints on a purely entertainment level.

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so true
I like the fact he snuck Batum in there too.

[Pickled Prunes]

Man, the best plan became the worst plan. (it worked for a short while tho)

2 years ago, the Hornets signed Lin to perhaps replace Kemba and signed Batum to try to compliment Kemba. Turned out Lin played well, Kemba had a career year, and Batum/Kemba were a very good tandem. That team was tied at no.3 in the East and almost got out of the first round.

They retained Kemba, maxed out Batum and couldn't re-sign Lin.

Now all is lost. Sigh......

I knew it was over for CHA when Rich Cho gave that contract to Batum. As a Portland fan, I was disappointed when Portland matched the Wolves offer sheet for Batum at 4 years $46M. That was a dramatic overpay for what he brings to the table. Now CHA has too much cap space tied up in a roll-player that only shows up every 3rd or 4th game. Cho should have known this because he saw it play out in Portland and he's an analytics guy. Hopefully he has adjusted his metrics since offering Batum that deal.

Andy yeah, with that money he could have resigned Lin and added another very good player or two solid roll players.... but it's off to the rebuild now.

[MitchB3]

Spurs would be intruiging
MKG, Dwight and Kemba
For
Dejounte Murray, Kyle Anderson maybe derrick white to, and 1st, 2nd round picks if needed

Spurs look like (healthy)
Walker
Green
Leonard
Aldridge
Dwight
With solid depth

Dunno about money situation, maybe one of mills, green or co. Have to be included and other contracts renegotiated to make money work.

But this gives SAS more depth and gives hornets youth and a quick reset. Win-win

Dont see it happening because of money, and spurs dont have to much to offer.

The Spurs wouldn't want to trade away their future PG.

[MitchB3]

The "GOAT" has turned out to be a bad NBA owner. Anyways, Kemba contract is very team friendly for a player who can be the 2nd best player on a team looking to make a deep run into the playoffs; there's probably 4 teams that can use him, Spurs, 76ers, Cavs, Nuggets.

[Def Leppard]

Get Kemba to NOP

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[ChokeFasncists]

Man, the best plan became the worst plan. (it worked for a short while tho)

2 years ago, the Hornets signed Lin to perhaps replace Kemba and signed Batum to try to compliment Kemba. Turned out Lin played well, Kemba had a career year, and Batum/Kemba were a very good tandem. That team was tied at no.3 in the East and almost got out of the first round.

They retained Kemba, maxed out Batum and couldn't re-sign Lin.

Now all is lost. Sigh......

I knew it was over for CHA when Rich Cho gave that contract to Batum. As a Portland fan, I was disappointed when Portland matched the Wolves offer sheet for Batum at 4 years $46M. That was a dramatic overpay for what he brings to the table. Now CHA has too much cap space tied up in a roll-player that only shows up every 3rd or 4th game. Cho should have known this because he saw it play out in Portland and he's an analytics guy. Hopefully he has adjusted his metrics since offering Batum that deal.

Ya, tough decision tho. Batum really played well for that contract, he complimented Kemba perfectly, they play in a small market, it was that crazy cap raise summer and some team would surely have given him the max, lose him for nothing.

Andy yeah, with that money he could have resigned Lin and added another very good player or two solid roll players.... but it's off to the rebuild now.

Lin, Lee and Big Al, that's not bad.

[DCRYsing89]

Spurs would be intruiging
MKG, Dwight and Kemba
For
Dejounte Murray, Kyle Anderson maybe derrick white to, and 1st, 2nd round picks if needed

Spurs look like (healthy)
Walker
Green
Leonard
Aldridge
Dwight
With solid depth

Dunno about money situation, maybe one of mills, green or co. Have to be included and other contracts renegotiated to make money work.

But this gives SAS more depth and gives hornets youth and a quick reset. Win-win

Dont see it happening because of money, and spurs dont have to much to offer.

The Spurs wouldn't want to trade away their future PG.

Yeah it would hurt their future, but a solid allstar PG and solid defensive big man and wing two of being not old.
It would be a shot to help kawhi overcome GSW now.
Still yeah spurs style isnt destroying an era of their basketball (future) just for more success.

[Pickled Prunes]

Pickled Prunes wrote:

ChokeFasncists wrote:
Man, the best plan became the worst plan. (it worked for a short while tho)

2 years ago, the Hornets signed Lin to perhaps replace Kemba and signed Batum to try to compliment Kemba. Turned out Lin played well, Kemba had a career year, and Batum/Kemba were a very good tandem. That team was tied at no.3 in the East and almost got out of the first round.

They retained Kemba, maxed out Batum and couldn't re-sign Lin.

Now all is lost. Sigh......


I knew it was over for CHA when Rich Cho gave that contract to Batum. As a Portland fan, I was disappointed when Portland matched the Wolves offer sheet for Batum at 4 years $46M. That was a dramatic overpay for what he brings to the table. Now CHA has too much cap space tied up in a roll-player that only shows up every 3rd or 4th game. Cho should have known this because he saw it play out in Portland and he's an analytics guy. Hopefully he has adjusted his metrics since offering Batum that deal.


Ya, tough decision tho. Batum really played well for that contract, he complimented Kemba perfectly, they play in a small market, it was that crazy cap raise summer and some team would surely have given him the max, lose him for nothing.

Not really. 15/6/6 looks great but Rich Cho's advanced stats should have seen through the illusion.

Batum was:
12th on the team in fg%
8th in 3pt%
12th in ORtg
11th in DRtg (He's always given the illusion of being a great defender, maybe due to his length. The numbers disagree.)
1st in Ast but also 1st in TO, making him 6th in assist to turnover ratio.

The long and short... his usage went up. Combine that with it being a contract year and him possibly wanting to prove something to the Blazers, his effort level may have increased a bit. But he wasn't magically a better player. He is what he is and that contract was never one that was going to be able to live up to. Hopefully CHA can get out from under it, but who would be willing to take it on? SF's are in demand right now but I just don't see a destination.

[MitchB3]

Spurs would be intruiging
MKG, Dwight and Kemba
For
Dejounte Murray, Kyle Anderson maybe derrick white to, and 1st, 2nd round picks if needed

Spurs look like (healthy)
Walker
Green
Leonard
Aldridge
Dwight
With solid depth

Dunno about money situation, maybe one of mills, green or co. Have to be included and other contracts renegotiated to make money work.

But this gives SAS more depth and gives hornets youth and a quick reset. Win-win

Dont see it happening because of money, and spurs dont have to much to offer.

The Spurs wouldn't want to trade away their future PG.

Yeah it would hurt their future, but a solid allstar PG and solid defensive big man and wing two of being not old.
It would be a shot to help kawhi overcome GSW now.
Still yeah spurs style isnt destroying an era of their basketball (future) just for more success.

1- They aren't taking on Dwight Howard bad contract.
2- If they want Kemba they might have to involve a 3rd and 4th team to trade because they will not take back Dwight bad contract.
3- Coach Pop is a long-term thinker and he likes Murray enough to want to keep him.

[DCRYsing89]

The Spurs wouldn't want to trade away their future PG.

Yeah it would hurt their future, but a solid allstar PG and solid defensive big man and wing two of being not old.
It would be a shot to help kawhi overcome GSW now.
Still yeah spurs style isnt destroying an era of their basketball (future) just for more success.

1- They aren't taking on Dwight Howard bad contract.
2- If they want Kemba they might have to involve a 3rd and 4th team to trade because they will not take back Dwight bad contract.
3- Coach Pop is a long-term thinker and he likes Murray enough to want to keep him.

Dwight is only on 2 more years. In those 2 in a good system he can get you 12points-10rebounds at least.
Overpaid yes, but gives they a true defensive stopper at centre. So dwights contract may look bad, but making a last ditch effort for the championship before the final fall of the spurs makes sense.
Dwight is servicable, tho bad contract is annoying, spurs core is locked in for next couple years so going over cap isnt to big a worry.
Yeah this is why its most unlikely.
Any other organisation or coach and this idea of a shot at a championship would make them jump at it.
Tho thats not spurs style, but its nice to dream.

[ChokeFasncists]

Pickled Prunes wrote:

ChokeFasncists wrote:
Man, the best plan became the worst plan. (it worked for a short while tho)

2 years ago, the Hornets signed Lin to perhaps replace Kemba and signed Batum to try to compliment Kemba. Turned out Lin played well, Kemba had a career year, and Batum/Kemba were a very good tandem. That team was tied at no.3 in the East and almost got out of the first round.

They retained Kemba, maxed out Batum and couldn't re-sign Lin.

Now all is lost. Sigh......


I knew it was over for CHA when Rich Cho gave that contract to Batum. As a Portland fan, I was disappointed when Portland matched the Wolves offer sheet for Batum at 4 years $46M. That was a dramatic overpay for what he brings to the table. Now CHA has too much cap space tied up in a roll-player that only shows up every 3rd or 4th game. Cho should have known this because he saw it play out in Portland and he's an analytics guy. Hopefully he has adjusted his metrics since offering Batum that deal.


Ya, tough decision tho. Batum really played well for that contract, he complimented Kemba perfectly, they play in a small market, it was that crazy cap raise summer and some team would surely have given him the max, lose him for nothing.

Not really. 15/6/6 looks great but Rich Cho's advanced stats should have seen through the illusion.

Batum was:
12th on the team in fg%
8th in 3pt%
12th in ORtg
11th in DRtg (He's always given the illusion of being a great defender, maybe due to his length. The numbers disagree.)
1st in Ast but also 1st in TO, making him 6th in assist to turnover ratio.

The long and short... his usage went up. Combine that with it being a contract year and him possibly wanting to prove something to the Blazers, his effort level may have increased a bit. But he wasn't magically a better player. He is what he is and that contract was never one that was going to be able to live up to. Hopefully CHA can get out from under it, but who would be willing to take it on? SF's are in demand right now but I just don't see a destination.

Agreed, I was totally against giving him the max back then. Problem is, they would have lost him for nothing if they didn't pay up. Unfortunately, their record was too good for them to give that up, being tied at no.3. It was the summer of cap hike, of Noah, Turner, Mozgov etc.

Another theory was that, it was his first time being the go-to guy, he indeed delivered quite a bit, but I suppose it was more for that contract......

[Pickled Prunes]

Pickled Prunes wrote:

ChokeFasncists wrote:
Man, the best plan became the worst plan. (it worked for a short while tho)

2 years ago, the Hornets signed Lin to perhaps replace Kemba and signed Batum to try to compliment Kemba. Turned out Lin played well, Kemba had a career year, and Batum/Kemba were a very good tandem. That team was tied at no.3 in the East and almost got out of the first round.

They retained Kemba, maxed out Batum and couldn't re-sign Lin.

Now all is lost. Sigh......


I knew it was over for CHA when Rich Cho gave that contract to Batum. As a Portland fan, I was disappointed when Portland matched the Wolves offer sheet for Batum at 4 years $46M. That was a dramatic overpay for what he brings to the table. Now CHA has too much cap space tied up in a roll-player that only shows up every 3rd or 4th game. Cho should have known this because he saw it play out in Portland and he's an analytics guy. Hopefully he has adjusted his metrics since offering Batum that deal.


Ya, tough decision tho. Batum really played well for that contract, he complimented Kemba perfectly, they play in a small market, it was that crazy cap raise summer and some team would surely have given him the max, lose him for nothing.

Not really. 15/6/6 looks great but Rich Cho's advanced stats should have seen through the illusion.

Batum was:
12th on the team in fg%
8th in 3pt%
12th in ORtg
11th in DRtg (He's always given the illusion of being a great defender, maybe due to his length. The numbers disagree.)
1st in Ast but also 1st in TO, making him 6th in assist to turnover ratio.

The long and short... his usage went up. Combine that with it being a contract year and him possibly wanting to prove something to the Blazers, his effort level may have increased a bit. But he wasn't magically a better player. He is what he is and that contract was never one that was going to be able to live up to. Hopefully CHA can get out from under it, but who would be willing to take it on? SF's are in demand right now but I just don't see a destination.

Agreed, I was totally against giving him the max back then. Problem is, they would have lost him for nothing if they didn't pay up. Unfortunately, their record was too good for them to give that up, being tied at no.3. It was the summer of cap hike, of Noah, Turner, Mozgov etc.

Another theory was that, it was his first time being the go-to guy, he indeed delivered quite a bit, but I suppose it was more for that contract......

I hear you and you seem like a nice, glass is half-full kind of guy. But that team, tied for 3rd, was also tied for 6th.... in the East. 9 games out of first but only 7 games ahead of 10th. Likely not a playoff team in the West. (The W/L totals were significantly deflated in the West with the Spurs and GS killing everyone. They were a combined 89-15 against the West!)

Investing that much cap in Batum meant they had to let a little of their depth walk for nothing. And since he is no better than a complementary player, it created a ceiling for them. Best case scenario, they are a 2nd round exit while they have Batum on that contract. That is me and my half-full take. I honestly don't think they'll ever see a 2nd round while he is there. Sometimes it is better to see players walk away for nothing than to strap them to your back.

[ChokeFasncists]

Not really. 15/6/6 looks great but Rich Cho's advanced stats should have seen through the illusion.

Batum was:
12th on the team in fg%
8th in 3pt%
12th in ORtg
11th in DRtg (He's always given the illusion of being a great defender, maybe due to his length. The numbers disagree.)
1st in Ast but also 1st in TO, making him 6th in assist to turnover ratio.

The long and short... his usage went up. Combine that with it being a contract year and him possibly wanting to prove something to the Blazers, his effort level may have increased a bit. But he wasn't magically a better player. He is what he is and that contract was never one that was going to be able to live up to. Hopefully CHA can get out from under it, but who would be willing to take it on? SF's are in demand right now but I just don't see a destination.

Agreed, I was totally against giving him the max back then. Problem is, they would have lost him for nothing if they didn't pay up. Unfortunately, their record was too good for them to give that up, being tied at no.3. It was the summer of cap hike, of Noah, Turner, Mozgov etc.

Another theory was that, it was his first time being the go-to guy, he indeed delivered quite a bit, but I suppose it was more for that contract......

I hear you and you seem like a nice, glass is half-full kind of guy. But that team, tied for 3rd, was also tied for 6th.... in the East. 9 games out of first but only 7 games ahead of 10th. Likely not a playoff team in the West. (The W/L totals were significantly deflated in the West with the Spurs and GS killing everyone. They were a combined 89-15 against the West!)

Investing that much cap in Batum meant they had to let a little of their depth walk for nothing. And since he is no better than a complementary player, it created a ceiling for them. Best case scenario, they are a 2nd round exit while they have Batum on that contract. That is me and my half-full take. I honestly don't think they'll ever see a 2nd round while he is there. Sometimes it is better to see players walk away for nothing than to strap them to your back.

Agreed, agreed, another problem is, they are a franchise that had never won a playoff game before that season. Sadly, Al/Lee&Lin were probably more important than Batum. But he was their prized target, whereas those three were considered dumpster dive material. TBF, he did make some spectacular plays that season, with four point plays and great passes.